Crazy Christians

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Oh boy...... I have so many stories of nutball Christians. Mostly because I'm related to some.

One in particular is so pious. She thinks she's so good just because she goes to church.

I have yet to tell her that the Narnia books are about the same as the bible, since she hates stuff like Harry Potter and everything else fantasy and witchcraft.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
I don't know what happened to her. The new manager decided to downsize which meant getting rid of most of the more experienced workers for new ones (she was spared.) Which was a blessing in disguise since it was before 9-11 and I didn't have to listen to any ranting. Last time I met her before I moved to another state, she seemed fine.

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Another incident I remember was when I went to college the first time. It had fundy street preachers who would protest on campus and some ran a scam to rile up a target and then sue for assault if anything happened. The one that stuck out the most for me was this woman screaching at students as they passed by with her two young daughter quietly holding signs. Her husband sat on a bench, embarrassed as all heck and probably silently thinking, "would you please shut-up?".
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I would feel really sorry for that husband plus that is rather immoral, trying to rile people up so you could sue them for assault. I'm very sure God isn't pleased and Jesus is face-palming at such a thing. Aside from that, could open air preachers count? I saw one some months back who was preaching around this Asian market my mother and I go to. Only heard and saw a brief glimpse but my mother and I were too busy. I could only assume said preacher may of gotten in trouble or something.
 
This is not to bash or laugh at, but I remember this incident at the college I went to where a number of the members of the Campus Crusade for Christ who were perusing art degrees tried to convince the dean not to have them take the life drawing class. They were scared they would feel lust from seeing the nude models and it would be adultery against their future spouse because of it. No joke here.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
This is not to bash or laugh at, but I remember this incident at the college I went to where a number of the members of the Campus Crusade for Christ who were perusing art degrees tried to convince the dean not to have them take the life drawing class. They were scared they would feel lust from seeing the nude models and it would be adultery against their future spouse because of it. No joke here.
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That reminds me of Victorian sensibilities. They allegedly clad their tables and pianos in long cloths so no one would see their naked 'legs'. People supposedly fashioned clothing for their pets, even their goldfish. And an elderly woman in France stipulated in her will that her fortune would go to..... providing clothing for the naked snowmen of Paris. John Ruskin, a nineteenth century art critic, had presumably seen many pictures of naked women but didn't realize they had body hair and was so horrified and disgusted at what he saw on his wedding night that he ran from the room; his wife was granted an anullment.

Also, the models I remember from life drawing classes, were the kind that would put you off the idea of sexual lust for a good long time.
 
Axiom said:
And an elderly woman in France stipulated in her will that her fortune would go to..... providing clothing for the naked snowmen of Paris.
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And this is why I wish there were rules about what people can put in their wills.
 
Saney said:
And this is why I wish there were rules about what people can put in their wills.
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There are SOME rules about this sort of thing, to protect from crazies and scammers and a combination of the two. There is a case of a wealthy woman whose children were dismayed, to say the least, to learn at her death that she had willed her entire estate to a man whose name was 'revealed' to her many years earlier via an Ouija board. There was no such person found by that name and her children successfully petitioned the courts to be given control of her estate as would be normal policy if there was no will. I cannot find the info about this and Google is failing me right now but I'll post it here if I can find that book again.

Other people have made similar bequests in wills, leaving estates to people only of they get tattoos or smoke cigars. Or to whatever local woman gives birth to the most kids in ten years. Most of the time in modern courts, those things are easily dismissed. But things were different once upon a time, and rules have never applied equally to the rich anyway.
 
Axiom said:
That reminds me of Victorian sensibilities. They allegedly clad their tables and pianos in long cloths so no one would see their naked 'legs'.
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I remember my professor mentioning this in my Victorian English Lit course in college. He claimed that covering up table legs for "modesty" was actually an urban myth that the Victorian English used to tell about the Victorian Americans, like "Oh, those silly Yanks, aren't they such prudes?" However, at least in the upper-crust circles, it was considered polite to say "lower limbs" when referring to legs, because the word "legs" was considered borderline obscene.

They did have an awful lot of porn, though (link NSFW).
 
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"Remember kids, if you touch your sin parts then you are opening the 13th gate of hell!"
 
Goddessoftheshire said:
This link is for some guy who wants what he calls a "Benevolent Christian Dictatorship" for the United States where only the righteous vote.

http://www.videogum.com/266712/why-we-need-a-christian-dictator/politics/
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One of the biggest problems with America becoming a theocracy (or more like one) is eventually all the branches will start arguing over whose interpretations get to be used. (It took a long time for mainstream American society to start being nicer to Catholics.) And what about the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses? Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck made the religious right start accepting the Mormons more (as long as there's something in it for them), but it's still debatable if both religions should be counted as Christian. If so, they would want their rules included.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
One of the biggest problems with America becoming a theocracy (or more like one) is eventually all the branches will start arguing over whose interpretations get to be used. (It took a long time for mainstream American society to start being nicer to Catholics.) And what about the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses? Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck made the religious right start accepting the Mormons more (as long as there's something in it for them), but it's still debatable if both religions should be counted as Christian. If so, they would want their rules included.
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That is the problem with most if not all religions is it always ends with my beliefs are better than their beliefs, and it always that system of thought leads to trouble. My question to the man in the video is who gets to decide who is righteous enough to vote because like you noted there are a lot of Christian sects out there not to mention all the various Bibles they follow.
 
Goddessoftheshire said:
That is the problem with most if not all religions is it always ends with my beliefs are better than their beliefs, and it always that system of thought leads to trouble. My question to the man in the video is who gets to decide who is righteous enough to vote because like you noted there are a lot of Christian sects out there not to mention all the various Bibles they follow.
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And someone could just lie about being a devout Christian just to vote.
 
This is a classic, the Jr. Christian Science Bible Lesson was a long running public access show (in LA I believe) run by a devout Christian who believed in aliens. you can find loads of other videos from the show with a youtube search but here is a taste of what the show was like
 
If you really want bugfuck crazy Christian fundies, look up Steve Maxwell from the Titus2 blog.

Holy shit. A brief description:

- Came to the realisation that his children's friends were causing his kids' hearts to turn away from him, so no friends outside the family
- Sports are evil because competition so no sports, only boring mandatory family exercise time
- Fun is satanic and is specifically stated as being not allowed
- No books in the house except instructional manuals and of course, the bible
- Grown "children" (in their teens - thirties) must share a bedroom for the purposes of "accountability" (couldn't have a Maxwell masturbating!)
- Female "children" can't help by answering the phone/e-mails in their overpriced christian IT business because they would have to talk to males
- They spend New Years Eve literally crying over the souls of their neighbours and others who are damned to hell
- They live on a compound, even the Maxwell boys who are married
- Forbade his wife Teri from drinking Pepsi, as she was 'making an idol of it'.
- Refused to treat his wife's crippling depression

In particular, the parents' corner is a goldmine of crazy wtf. Also worth checking out are the Moody books, written by their poor daughter Sarah who I can't make fun of because I feel so sorry for her. She writes like a child (she's 32), and she was one of the lucky 'kids' old enough to remember a time when friends were allowed. All she wants is to be a wife and mother, but since Steve likes to keep her around the house and because other fundie men threaten Steve he won't marry her off, meaning she has to sit by trusting 'God's perfect timing' (which is really entirely on Steve, since she can't meet guys) while her younger brothers get married and have kids and she has to pretend to be delighted 24/7 because Maxwells don't feel negative emotions.

It's pretty insane shit.

Axiom said:
I find it sincerely, genuinely hard to believe how anybody believes in Scientology. It's so obviously, demonstrably, flagrantly bullshit. All culled from the scribblings of a second-rate dime-store science fiction writer with acute megalomania and psychopathic tendencies. Apart from being born into it, from which it is nearly impossible to escape, I don't understand how anyone believes it. If you come willingly to Scientology as an adult who presumably ought to know better, you should lose your rights to vote and reproduce.

Same goes for Mormonism, except it has even more evidence of fraud. The guys who made it up had a looooong and glorious pedigree of scams that follow the same lines of the basic tenants of Mormonism.
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Sorry to double post, but I just wanted to explain some of the Scientology stuff, why people fall for it.

People have to approach Scientology with the mindset that they want to be helped, they want it to help them. If you go in and read Dianetics with a critical mind you'll of course think it's total bullshit because it is. But if you're seriously looking for help and want that book to help you you'll find things of worth in it. It especially caters to a certain kind of person, because Dianetics basically tells you that you've always suspected you're unique and special and guess what? YOU ARE. That was basically how people got in in the days of yore.

Now people are drawn in by free personality tests. Scientologists ask you hundreds of questions and of course there is ALWAYS something drastically wrong with you... but guess what? They can fix it all! They show you their introductory movie which can be found on youtube and isn't too crazy (although I literally snorted water out of my nose when they claimed that religion is generally peaceful. Because, you know, it's not like any major wars were ever started over religion). If that doesn't scare you off, the cult behaviour begins. The love bombing in particular, where they flatter and cajole and encourage. They get you doing (and paying for) the basic coursework and of course you get massive "wins" in Scientology lingo,. This is in stark contrast to when you are in deep, where you basically never get enough stats.

It is VERY gradual. We all know about the crazy Xenu shit, but they don't tell you about that until you are literally at the highest level of financial obligation spiritual enlightenment and you're in so deep you've paid hundreds of thousands of dollars (bare minimum) to get there. Also, they teach the members that if they expose themselves to the super sekrit shit they will quite literally die. LRH only survived because he's LRH. So that's a good incentive to not spoil yourself.

There is also a MASSIVE culture of 'don't ask questions' in Scientology and most of their drills are about letting go of the critical mind and just accepting things as they are. If you ask questions you're labeled PTS - potential trouble source - and you're likely to be booted off to Clearwater to pay thousands of dollars to be audited to sort out your "problems".

So thanks to careful use of classic cult tactics - the love bombing, encouraging with big spiritual gains, only releasing so much information at a time, only letting members learn the most insane shit when you're sure they're in deep - people do believe and they believe hard.
 
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