Opinion Could Recessions Actually Help Save Lives? - The Great Recession created untold hardship, but new research suggests that it also helped prolong the lives of many Americans.

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The human and economic costs of recessions are deep and well-documented. They can also have real health benefits, however, and seldom are they expressed so starkly as in this sentence in a new paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research: “The Great Recession provided one in twenty-five 55-year-olds with an extra year of life.”

That’s easily hundreds of thousands of Americans. Overall, the paper notes, age-adjusted mortality in the US fell by 2.3% during the Great Recession. The finding, from professors at MIT, the University of Chicago and McMasters University, broadly tracks previous research showing that that mortality rates rise in good times and fall in hard times.

How might this be true?

One answer is related to air pollution, which is lower in recessions, typically because of reduced economic activity. The benefits of lower pollution levels persist long after the recession — at least 10 years, according to the researchers’ estimates. Air pollution reduction accounts for more than one-third of the mortality benefits from the Great Recession.

There are other ways recessions might help us live longer. Some people who lose their jobs might be able to spend more time exercising, for example, or engaging in self-care more generally. Others might have less money to spend on alcohol and other drugs. The overall quality of health care might improve as the industry is able to attract a better-educated workforce.

But these are all unverified hypotheses. The answer to why recessions can make people healthier remains largely a mystery.

The data do provide some additional clues. Except for cancer, for example, all major causes of mortality fell during the Great Recession. Decreases in cardiovascular-related deaths accounted for about half the mortality gains during that time. Furthermore, the mortality benefits were concentrated among Americans without college degrees. You might think that some of these improved health outcomes were due to people losing their stressful, low-paying jobs, but unemployment can be pretty stressful too.

For a 55-year-old, according to the paper’s estimates, about one-quarter of the economic costs of the Great Recession were countered by these mortality gains. So the Great Recession was still a very bad event — just less bad than we used to think. That is especially true for less educated Americans, who were hit harder by unemployment but also reaped the mortality gains.

At the top end of the age distribution, Americans aged 65 and older didn’t lose much from the Great Recession, in part because so many were already retired or working only part-time (in some cases, they were ensconced in jobs they were not going to lose). The researchers estimate that those over age 60 were also better off, on net, from the Great Recession.

This is discomforting in a country where the elderly vote at much higher rates than the young. Especially as the US ages, the political system may fail to prioritize avoiding the next recession.

Note that all of these estimates may be underestimates of the health benefits. The Great Recession was about 15 years ago, and there may be mortality benefits that are not yet visible in the data.

One lesson from this research is that the US might want to regulate air pollution regulation more strictly. If a reduction in air pollution can help explain better mortality rates during a recession, then it stands to reason that it should be reduced during good economic times as well.

Another lesson is that recessions may well become much worse, in net terms for human welfare, over time. It’s a bit of a paradox: As green energy spreads, and as more of the economy moves from the industrial to the service sector, there will be less air pollution for recessions to reduce. That will make having the proper monetary and fiscal policies — to limit recessions — all the more important.

It also would be valuable to figure out how else recessions reduce mortality, beyond decreasing pollution. Perhaps there are ways to reap those mortality gains without having to go through a recession. At a time when US life expectancy has been falling, even adjusting for Covid, such gains would be especially welcome.

Meanwhile, the study is a good reminder of how little we know about both recessions and the drivers of human mortality. There are only two certainties in this world, so the saying goes — death and taxes. The macroeconomist might add recessions to that list. All three of them may well be inevitable, but maybe we can make each of them just a bit less bad.

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January 19th 2024: Recessions are good because it forces people to be greener.
January 21st 2024: This is the worst economic recession ever and it's Trump's fault.
 
This is just pure cope. While its true that a crisis can teach people how to be more practical (like not spending your money towards goyslop for starters), its the sign of a decaying state.

Pretty sure even when bullets start flying and cities start looking more like battlefields, the headlines are gonna be "We're doing great. There is no war in the USA".

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This some really retarded mental gymnastics. Recessions good Trump bad. This has to be a new low.

The US economy is going to keep getting worse if something isn't done to bring jobs back to the US. They call them recessions, but they are actually just the US economy getting progressively worse as time goes on. It's impacting more people now so they can't sweep it under the rug as easily anymore. When Bush was in office, he used to say things like "the Americans that want to work have jobs". Implying that all the people that were unemployed while he was in office were just lazy and didn't want to work. Back then they could get away with that. It's becoming harder to pull that kind of garbage now. Less people are believing those kinds of lies. Just like they won't believe the lies from the current administration. Sure, there are still some head in the sand Boomers and Boomer tier types out there. People that are woefully out of touch with reality. But we are reaching a tipping point economically.

The economic system in the US is capitalism and capitalism needs people producing things and people consuming/purchasing the items they produce. You can't keep that kind of system going with the way the US has allowed things to go. You can't make everything overseas and ship it back in here and sell it to unemployed people or people making poverty wages. It's unsustainable. That's part of the reason why you see the Chinese economy tanking now. The capitalists sent all the jobs overseas and brought in cheap foreign labor both legally and illegally. Yet they sit around and complain about how sales are down. This is all self-inflicted. The capitalists did this to themselves with their greed. It's really just capitalism failing and failing hard. They are literally going to take the whole country down and everyone with them if someone with some common sense doesn't stop their BS.
 
This propaganda is just a way to push the concept of degrowth.
From the WEF:
Degrowth broadly means shrinking rather than growing economies, so we use less of the world’s energy and resources and put wellbeing ahead of profit.

The idea is that by pursuing degrowth policies, economies can help themselves, their citizens and the planet by becoming more sustainable.
From Wikipedia:
It argues that the unitary focus of modern capitalism on growth, in terms of monetary value of aggregate goods and services, causes widespread ecological damage and is not necessary for the further increase of human living standards.
Policy should instead focus on economic and social metrics such as life expectancy, health, education, housing, and ecologically sustainable work as indicators of both eco-systems and human well-being
Degrowth theory is highly critical of free market capitalism, and it highlights the importance of extensive public services, care work, self-organization, commons, relational goods, community, and work sharing.

This is basically, live in a pod, eat bugs, and own nothing but at least you live there years longer.

As for me?
 
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