Coronavirus: Lockdown Protests and Riots

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Darwin works in mysterious ways.

Hopefully I'll never understand what goes on through these people's minds. The government is gonna do what they are gonna do and you standing there among hundreds of people getting coofed on and making a flare up even more probable isn't going to do anything.

"But muh rights!" you know who loses their rights? Dead people.

Corona-chan is rubbing her hands at this.

ERHEM

“Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither.”
 
I'm not sure lecturing someone on 'muh tiny' when talking about Australia, is going to help anyone see things 'your way'.

I didn't get the feeling that they were comparing as such, just more trying to understand 'why'.

AmericaAustralia
population331,002,65125,499,884
cases/1M2,309260
tests/1M11,66616,931
deaths/1M1233

When you look at it that way, you still go 'but why'.

AmericaAustralia
land area km²9,147,4207,682,300
urban population83%86%
density Person/km²363

It is only when you get to the last part that you go 'ohhhh'...

And when you add that to the cultural, racial, historical differences, then you can start to muddle your way through to the why...
 
See, the problem with all the people so surprised that their rights went away is that for decades to infringements such as the Patriot Act and the National Firearms Act have been tacitly accepted; The rights didn't just suddenly go away, the legal basis for it has been building for decades, over a century even. It's just that now all the emergency laws are beginning to be activated.

It isn’t a right if someone can just take it from you. I dont have post 86 machine guns or shotguns that are too short, but if I want to shoot guns like I will - come and take it. Fuck the patriot act in every possible way I actually sat down and read the entire thing jfc.

It’s even done in a really insidious way like “change section 2.4b and to and/or” which makes a “normal” law turn really shit. Things like that only get worse sadly... I use the best protection I can for most things (usually run my OSes via a VM host with forced tor tunneling, keep each device I own away from a g-account, or if needed keep it to just that, VPN paid for with xmr to route traffic if not using tor, and using PGP for most conversations).

That was needed pre-patriot act IMO (not all of it existed but still) - have you read the text of the bill that passed in 14 iirc that was supposed to “fix” the fisa courts?

Yeah, it just made them worse so instead of approving say a small group they now have to approve entire programs. A judge left the court calling it a kangaroo court (he had been a federal judge for a long time so that’s saying something). Also I believe it was the same judge mention that it essentially acts as a shadow Supreme Court. They have their own legal precedent, their own interpretation of laws, and you can’t see any of it!

I’m glad to see protest break out and welcome more of them. Who knows maybe a few places that went a little too far (most if not all of them in some way or another) will have the streets running red with corrupted blood. Nothing unifies people like a common enemy. Sad thing is as protest/severity of protest increase I’m not sure if it’ll cause those in power to double down...
 
I am fine with these protests because they are in their cars, and thus practicing social distancing responsibly. As long as they do not block emergency vehicles they can do it 24/7 for all I care.


Maryland ReOpen protests, people on reddit are calling the lady in the car a protestor when in reality she was an anti-protestor (if thats the correct term). She damaged the guys motorcycle pretty hard but I dont think she got away with it because people linked him this video.
 
Commonwealth Subject is a statist cuck, film at eleven.

Docile, subservient, and easily cowed-- no wonder the Chinks colonized you.
 
Gridlock Buffalo is underway as residents protest the New York Pause order.

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According to this, the protest ended by 1:00 PM
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The protests wouldn't be happening in the first place if the governors had not overstepped their boundaries with their power. I get it: Large gatherings like this do increase the large risk of infection in big numbers ... But they wouldn't be happening if some of these governors weren't such power hungry cumstains.

Also, once again, the goal posts just keep being moved. A month ago, it was about not overwhelming the healthcare system. Once we successfully did that on a national scale, it's now about waiting for more tests waiting for a vaccine waiting for the virus to be completely gone. You keep doing this, and people are rightfully going to get even more scared and angry.

I'm all about promoting doing the right thing for your fellow Americans; that's why I'm electively choosing to stay home, and why I'm going to continue to stay home and be careful even a while after these lockdowns/quarantines are lifted. I have my masks now; I fully plan to wear them for an extended period of time.

There's a difference between doing the right thing for each other, and flying drones to spy on people, literally making it illegal for citizens to buy seeds for themselves in some states, the government telling an alarming amount of the population that their livelihoods "aren't essential," and telling everyone to rat on their fellow Americans to the police.

The Constitution isn't a document that suddenly becomes pointless because there's a scary virus. Saying this doesn't all of the sudden make me less empathetic or worried about the health and safety of everyone.
 
The protests wouldn't be happening in the first place if the governors had not overstepped their boundaries with their power. I get it: Large gatherings like this do increase the large risk of infection in big numbers ... But they wouldn't be happening if some of these governors weren't such power hungry cumstains.

Also, once again, the goal posts just keep being moved. A month ago, it was about not overwhelming the healthcare system. Once we successfully did that on a national scale, it's now about waiting for more tests waiting for a vaccine waiting for the virus to be completely gone. You keep doing this, and people are rightfully going to get even more scared and angry.

I'm all about promoting doing the right thing for your fellow Americans; that's why I'm electively choosing to stay home, and why I'm going to continue to stay home and be careful even a while after these lockdowns/quarantines are lifted. I have my masks now; I fully plan to wear them for an extended period of time.

There's a difference between doing the right thing for each other, and flying drones to spy on people, literally making it illegal for citizens to buy seeds for themselves in some states, the government telling an alarming amount of the population that their livelihoods "aren't essential," and telling everyone to rat on their fellow Americans to the police.

The Constitution isn't a document that suddenly becomes pointless because there's a scary virus. Saying this doesn't all of the sudden make me less empathetic or worried about the health and safety of everyone.

Nah even if the government was less strict people would still protest, America just isn't the kind of country that can handle a pandemic well. Long story short in the event of a more serious pandemic you guys would be super fucked, this test run of a pandemic proves it. People only hear the news they want to listen to and ignore basic precautions by health officials. Its a free for all filled with politics and polarization when the issue should be handled with a more scientific approach. It's a pandemic, it's a price everyone pays and there isn't really any good shortcuts or fast tracks to ending it, by going and protesting it is just going to prolong the process and make it worse in the long run.

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The protests wouldn't be happening in the first place if the governors had not overstepped their boundaries with their power. I get it: Large gatherings like this do increase the large risk of infection in big numbers ... But they wouldn't be happening if some of these governors weren't such power hungry cumstains.

Also, once again, the goal posts just keep being moved. A month ago, it was about not overwhelming the healthcare system. Once we successfully did that on a national scale, it's now about waiting for more tests waiting for a vaccine waiting for the virus to be completely gone. You keep doing this, and people are rightfully going to get even more scared and angry.

I'm all about promoting doing the right thing for your fellow Americans; that's why I'm electively choosing to stay home, and why I'm going to continue to stay home and be careful even a while after these lockdowns/quarantines are lifted. I have my masks now; I fully plan to wear them for an extended period of time.

There's a difference between doing the right thing for each other, and flying drones to spy on people, literally making it illegal for citizens to buy seeds for themselves in some states, the government telling an alarming amount of the population that their livelihoods "aren't essential," and telling everyone to rat on their fellow Americans to the police.

The Constitution isn't a document that suddenly becomes pointless because there's a scary virus. Saying this doesn't all of the sudden make me less empathetic or worried about the health and safety of everyone.
All the while the people telling us to do this are FLAGRANTLY IGNORING the rules.
 
Michigan, USA

Crosspost from the megathread, follow-up on protests in Lansing, MI (the state capitol) the other week.

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Of fucking course.

I'm so goddamn sick of this narrative that people who care about their jobs and their civil liberties all of the sudden don't care about people's health.

I still believe in social distancing and voluntarily staying home if you have the luxury to (and there were many signs expressing this notion at the protests over the weekend, too). I also believe that ALL jobs are essential to the people who make a living from them, and I also believe that our civil liberties are being trampled on right now. The authoritarian measures these states have taken have legitimately made me fear for the country's future on so many levels.

BUT SURE, I just "don't care." Way to oversimplify a complicated crisis.
 
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Of fucking course.

I'm so goddamn sick of this narrative that people who care about their jobs and their civil liberties all of the sudden don't care about people's health.

I still believe in social distancing and voluntarily staying home if you have the luxury to (and there were many signs expressing this notion at the protests over the weekend, too). I also believe that ALL jobs are essential to the people who make a living from them, and I also believe that our civil liberties are being trampled on right now. The authoritarian measures these states have taken have legitimately made me fear for the country's future on so many levels.

BUT SURE, I just "don't care." Way to oversimplify a complicated crisis.

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Link Bee comes in solid, once again.
 
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