Corbyn's Labour gets weirder - Appoints a neurodiversity shadow minister

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Neurodiversity might be a tumblresque sounding name but people on the autistic spectrum for example is a pretty big and growing concern, you mostly hear about autistic children and the help they get at younger years which has improved dramatically but adults with autism have a huge unemployment problem (85% of autistic adults aren't in full time employment) which dramatically exceeds other conditions such as down syndrome and there are other issues like young adults with autism are less likely to live independently compared to those with other mental disabilities or low IQ.

So it makes sense from a economic point of view so hopefully the growing number of autistic kids won't grow up to live on autism bux or in care and generally be an economic burden (From a 2002 research report - "New Research Finds Annual Cost of Autism Has More Than Tripled to $126 Billion in the U.S. and Reached £34 Billion in the U.K." - "Lifetime Care of Individuals with Autism Highest for Those with Intellectual Disability $2.3 Million U.S. and £1.5 Million U.K.")
 
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Yeah the whole party is in a tailspin at the moment due to It's own incompetence.

It's not saint Corbyn's fault tho. He can do no wrong and will usher in a socialist paradise come 2020

Not.
 
Vitriol said:
it is a Shadow Cabinet and they lead Her Majesties' Loyal Opposition which is the official term. Its all very archaic
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How do they appoint the ministers then? I thought that the opposition appoints them
 
autisticdragonkin said:
How do they appoint the ministers then? I thought that the opposition appoints them
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The idea is the opposition behaves as a government-in-waiting, so it challenges policies, asks questions and even provides alternative policies. Labour has an overcomplicated cluster fuck of an appointment system which involves a third being appointed, a third elected and a third appointed by a party body called the NEC.

Versus Liberal Democrats, UKIP, Tories and every other mainstream party who's leader just goes "Want this job?" to their MP of choice.

The thing is, Labour has a tendency to create new posts in an "everyone's a winner!" mentality. This neurodiversity post is basically a junior minister's position attached to the department of work and pensions, who is the prime mover and shaker in disability legislation and payments of benefits.

Or in other words, this is a "brass plaque" appointment, it doesn't have any actual power, role or ability to do... anything. That will continued to be handled by grown up ministers with actual briefs and ability.

Which, honestly, makes it a little sad and insulting.
 
Ponderous Pillock said:
The idea is the opposition behaves as a government-in-waiting, so it challenges policies, asks questions and even provides alternative policies. Labour has an overcomplicated cluster fuck of an appointment system which involves a third being appointed, a third elected and a third appointed by a party body called the NEC.

Versus Liberal Democrats, UKIP, Tories and every other mainstream party who's leader just goes "Want this job?" to their MP of choice.

The thing is, Labour has a tendency to create new posts in an "everyone's a winner!" mentality. This neurodiversity post is basically a junior minister's position attached to the department of work and pensions, who is the prime mover and shaker in disability legislation and payments of benefits.

Or in other words, this is a "brass plaque" appointment, it doesn't have any actual power, role or ability to do... anything. That will continued to be handled by grown up ministers with actual briefs and ability.

Which, honestly, makes it a little sad and insulting.
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The EU parliament has these, too, with "Shadow Rapporteur" titles and the like. Also, sometimes you'll hear people saying they're shadow this-and-thats for UN bodies.
 
I remember looking at Corbyn, even voting for him, and I thought:

"Yeah, okay, I don't agree with most of what the guy says but it's always about the economy and the rest of the party will be able to keep the rest of his dumb-shit in-line. I mean it's not like he doesn't want to be electable right?"

Christ was I wrong. Like literally the first day he turns up at a WW2 Memorial looking like a slob.

I honestly don't even know whom I am going to vote for next election.
 
Enclave Supremacy said:
I remember looking at Corbyn, even voting for him,
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I did too because I wanted a different kind of politics. We got far more then we bargained for.

Corbyn's labour would be a failure in normal times but when you're dealing with a deeply weakened Tory party and still fail...that's just another level of incompetence all together.

The CND rally crystallised that for me.
 
Ass Manager 3000 said:
I did too because I wanted a different kind of politics. We got far more then we bargained for.

Corbyn's labour would be a failure in normal times but when you're dealing with a deeply weakened Tory party and still fail...that's just another level of incompetence all together.

The CND rally crystallised that for me.
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Do you know much about michael foot? Corbyn came in under his leadership and they are similiar in outlook and habit. There is an excellent bbc documentary series 'labour- the wilderness years' on youtube that focusses on labour from 1979-1997, the episodes on foot evoke startling deja vu and are well worth a watch for anyone with an interest in uk politics- whether red, blue, purple, orange or yellow.
 
Vitriol said:
Do you know much about michael foot? Corbyn came in under his leadership and they are similiar in outlook and habit. There is an excellent bbc documentary series 'labour- the wilderness years' on youtube that focusses on labour from 1979-1997, the episodes on foot evoke startling deja vu and are well worth a watch for anyone with an interest in uk politics- whether red, blue, purple, orange or yellow.
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That sounds quite topical, I'll check it out.
 
I do find it kind of hilarious, especially as from 1983-1992 was the actual battle of the soul for the Labour Party when they slowly turfed out militant and generally cleaned up the party.

Now Momentum has marched straight in and is basically an umbrella organization of Militant, CND and various other groups that had to be marginalized in order for the party to have any kind of electability.

I find it kind of funny to say the tory party is weakened. This is no 1992.

There's no stalking horse causing constant parliamentary rebellions, there's no back room backstabbing followed by a delusional idiot demanding a leadership election every 12 seconds.

The arguments have been all very public, which is... honestly kind of refreshing.

Indeed, the Tory Party is holding its vote, something basically unheard of in modern political times.

Labour is holding its vote, but that's not the point of oppositions, you're supposed to start taking territory in bi elections and council elections.
 
Ponderous Pillock said:
There's no stalking horse causing constant parliamentary rebellions, there's no back room backstabbing followed by a delusional idiot demanding a leadership election every 12 seconds.

The arguments have been all very public, which is... honestly kind of refreshing.
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I agree with what you have said about labour, and that the tories are in a comparatively better position, but we have seen numerous very public fighting and a call for cameron to go post referendum. It isnt john major level yet but it is damaging the party imo.

With a competent leader of the opposition the tories would be in serious trouble, as is they are holding just about.
 
Labour couldn't really ask for a better situation

1) the global economy is slowing and the IMF agrees with the party's reasoning.
2) the conservatives are primed to tear themselves apart. An unexpected loss anywhere could push them over the edge.
3) country is increasingly sick of status quo

That's not a hard situation to work. The party just isn't competent enough to make shit happen.
 
Vitriol said:
I agree with what you have said about labour, and that the tories are in a comparatively better position, but we have seen numerous very public fighting and a call for cameron to go post referendum. It isnt john major level yet but it is damaging the party imo.

With a competent leader of the opposition the tories would be in serious trouble, as is they are holding just about.
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Cameron won't be party leader by 2020 regardless. He's already declared this. The initial parts were people pointing out that the referendum would've made a good break point for Cameron that is slowly tipping over into "Fuck off forehead boy" because in spite of his frantic remain campaigning, he's said he'd be the one to lead the negotiations for Britain's exit, giving him a leave date of 2018.

Which just makes anyone on the Leave side burst out laughing.

To be honest, the only MP to really out and out declare Cameron should go is Andrew Bridgen who says he's the head of about 50-odd MPs but, I take it with a pinch of salt to be quite honest.
 
Vitriol said:
There is an excellent bbc documentary series 'labour- the wilderness years' on youtube that focusses on labour from 1979-1997, the episodes on foot evoke startling deja vu
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18 minutes in and guess who I see....

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Vitriol said:
deja vu
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