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The Jewel of the Nile said:
I sort of agree but I don't think it's as bad as collecting NEW SHINY things. Those tapes are already there, nobody's producing them anymore, so dude is pretty much collecting old junk because it's old junk. Weird but it's not unnecessarily consuming resources like new capeshit funkopops
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Recycling all that shiny black 80s high grade plastic would be even better but since recycling is mostly a lie... I guess he's doing a net positive.

And he's got one over on turd worlders: he can extract noises and vague engrams of old blockbusters from his private plastic chernobyl - take that nigerian fume enjoyers!
 
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~nogger~ said:
Recycling all that shiny black 80s high grade plastic would be even better but since recycling is mostly a lie... I guess he's doing a net positive.
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Yeah, there's that issue as well- what should we do with all of that plastic? Can't really recycle it, maybe the black case would be recyclable but the tape itself? I don't think so.
So at most he can at least show us something cool and uber autistic. Maybe something we didn't know even existed.
This is complete opposite of funko/ game/ iphone "collections" that are just a waste of resources. And I don't mean just raw materials- imagine how many manhours were spent on every aspect of producing those consoomer trophies. From designing, working on raw materials, processing those, then processing those processed materials, then production line, to every single person involved in logistics, stocking the shelves and people working on cash registers. Absolutely insane when you think about it for a second.
 
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~nogger~ said:
The one particular strain of old media horder I can't respect: It's the worst format there ever was while DVDs and CD or LDs are mostly fine when not exposed to UV, vhs really is cancerous because even without taperot, the picture quality is just so insanely bad to begin with - I just can't. Vinyl on the other hand or LD not only has acceptable quality from the get go, it also looks cool, big sleeves with huge art work illustrations - it's really something you can show of but a VHS even looks disposalble and cheap. I don't get it, isn't stimming me in the least.

I'll make one exception for obscure tape horders. Legit rare bootlegs, news B rolls (but then that's mostly pro formats), that kinda stuff but then I also expect they guy to digitize and ARCHIVE, like true 8mm and 9.5 collectors
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He has old Star Wars VHS, what's the status with pre-Special Edition versions right now? Did they ever get an official release, or is as-good-as-possible digitisation from VHS the best we can hope for?
 
The Jewel of the Nile said:
Yeah, there's that issue as well- what should we do with all of that plastic? Can't really recycle it, maybe the black case would be recyclable but the tape itself? I don't think so.
So at most he can at least show us something cool and uber autistic. Maybe something we didn't know even existed.
This is complete opposite of funko/ game/ iphone "collections" that are just a waste of resources
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That's why I really came around respecting vinyl: it's actually making use of the foreverness of plastic by actually lasting, without playing too often, well, forever.
 
Meriasek said:
He has old Star Wars VHS, what's the status with pre-Special Edition versions right now? Did they ever get an official release, or is as-good-as-possible digitisation from VHS the best we can hope for?
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Laser Disc. I'm pretty sure there's old star wars on laser disc and even rips of that floating around . But it may also be somewhat cut because of the time constraints - so I'm not 100% sure on it. Not a star wars affectionardo. But you may want to look in that direction.

There's also lots of not-yet-digitized, 80s and early 90s anime ova goodness stashed away in nipponese basements. Without gay color grading or judder.
Sadly it's already getting expensive and pozzed because nostalgia tube also picked up on that years ago...
 
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~nogger~ said:
Laser Disc. I'm pretty sure there's old star wars on laser disc and even rips of that floating around . But it may also be somewhat cut because of the time constraints - so I'm not 100% sure on it. Not a star wars affectionardo. But you may want to look in that direction.
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Just did, apparently some fans have been doing 4k scans of 35 mm theatrical releases and stuff. Pretty cool.
 
~nogger~ said:
That's why I really came around respecting vinyl: it's actually making use of the foreverness of plastic by actually lasting, without playing too often, well, forever.
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Exactly! And you can easily start vinyl "collection " (for the lack of a better word) without paying a single dime- everyone's older relatives probably have a lot of them stashed somewhere and would be happy to give them away. The only issue is a turntable but usually changing the needle (not sure if it's the proper name for that bit, but that's how it's called in my language) is all you need to do to make it work if you got it second hand like the records themselves. Super cool
 
Vinyl is cool and all, but growing up with tapes and now being heavily into the rather DIY-influenced Black Metal scene, I still have a strong fondness for tapes. I have both, but I try to buy tapes whenever available. There's just something about them in terms of haptic and design and history. They have a certain air of Rock'n'Roll, Punk, and DIY that vinyl simply doesn't have. I can throw a bunch of tapes in my backpack and look like an absolute tosser listening to them with my Walkman on the train. It's glorious.
 
Cuntspiracy Man said:
i've worked in a few places where i knew we had access to facilities like water and toilets and had to let people in, but were told to drag it out and let as few people in as possible, play dumb, act like "hmm i'm not sure if it's allowed" and most people who don't know the law will just say "oh ok", whereas those who do know it will get the ol "ill ask the boss" *goes to the back and does nothing* "he said it's ok"
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I recall the story of this girl with IBS at a gap store, asked to use the bathroom and was refused even tho she had one of those medical cards that said they had to let her use the toilet.

Shat herself right there, humiliating moment. Hope the wagies had fun cleaning it up...
~nogger~ said:
The one particular strain of old media horder I can't respect: It's the worst format there ever was
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Meh he probably got those when video rentals were dumping tapes for DVDs and BD.
~nogger~ said:
Recycling all that shiny black 80s high grade plastic would be even better
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High grade? it was flimsy as fuck.
 
~nogger~ said:
The one particular strain of old media horder I can't respect
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I agree with this mostly in terms of like, actual movies. The VHS boom created some absolutley wild nonsense that went straight to vhs, as well as all the shit that gets on places like RLM's Wheel of the Worst. Training videos, doctor videos, self-help videos, people's home movies, quite literally there was a tape for it out there.

Those, I personally think, are worth rummaging through. They're also infinitely more interesting to watch imo, whether it be good or bad. I do agree that more of them should be digitized 100%. They're like little portals into the past if you find the right one.
 
This turned into a gay circlejerk.

But one thing about VHS is that even now there are lots of things that are only available in that format and will likely never see a release ever again.
 
KuwabaraTheMan said:
But one thing about VHS is that even now there are lots of things that are only available in that format and will likely never see a release ever again.
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Literally the only reason to have vhs in 2024. Owning a movie thats been released 3-4x over on dvd > bluray > 4k bluray etc. is just outright retarded. Even the absolute worst transfers are going to be 100x better than any vhs copy.
 
74164978231 said:
Literally the only reason to have vhs in 2024
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I have a bunch, they are dirt cheap. Toddler friendly media, no grubby fingerprints and scratches on disks, and can bash them around pretty well without issue. Also limits "current day" themes, I think the newest I have is around 2001, mostly 90s and late 80s kids stuff.
Also I have no problem giving the whole lot away or dumping it when no longer needed.
 
cybertoaster said:
High grade? it was flimsy as fuck.
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Maybe it's a regional thing but the casings of the tapes I disassembled as a little kid were hard as rock which surprised me compared to most toys but in hindsight even those were solid a.f. compared to nowadays - you can see it with cheap LCD TVs - back in the day kids probably died from clobbering each other with transformers or barbie convertibles.
 
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Being fond of tapes, I also like VHS. It's not a great video format in terms of quality, sure, but the form factor and haptic is just pleasant to me. I wouldn't collect VHS tapes, but I can see why some people would do it. It's a certain history and flair.
I'd love an ADAT recorder, the old Alesis Digital Audio Tape before they reused that acronym for their digital interface. Recording digital audio on S-VHS tapes. Glorious. I got a few four track tape recorders, though, which is pretty fun.
 
I'm gonna powerlevel a bit, but I do collect VHS tapes as I'm quite fond of them (and grew up at the tail end of their life), and have a bunch of them. I don't do it for collection purposes, but just as a form of something to watch (aside from a few rare horror films) like the bunches of DVDs I have, but the DVD player I have struggles to play discs even with minimal scratching so its a good alternative.
People who just hoard them and think they all go for big bucks fucking suck, though.
 
To get back on topic: Nothing says, "I'm a consoomer and always have been" more than old people trying to get money for their Disney VHS tapes they bought because everyone all read the same article back in the 00's saying they'll be worth money. I've noticed a lot of them getting upset when told the tapes are worthless essentially
 
Randy Butternubs said:
To get back on topic: Nothing says, "I'm a consoomer and always have been" more than old people trying to get money for their Disney VHS tapes they bought because everyone all read the same article back in the 00's saying they'll be worth money. I've noticed a lot of them getting upset when told the tapes are worthless essentially
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i do, on the other hand, feel bad for people who earnestly collected things and now want to sell them getting fucked over by those "BUY X BUY IT BUY IT NOOOOOW!" articles coming out after they've long done it without it being a big fad, because it's usually done by people who already own something trying to trick others to pawn off THEIR own crap
once articles about how something is gonna be "super big in the future trust me gais" start coming out, you better get off the ride, because every schmuck's gonna start getting into it
 
Randy Butternubs said:
To get back on topic: Nothing says, "I'm a consoomer and always have been" more than old people trying to get money for their Disney VHS tapes they bought because everyone all read the same article back in the 00's saying they'll be worth money. I've noticed a lot of them getting upset when told the tapes are worthless essentially
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Cuntspiracy Man said:
i do, on the other hand, feel bad for people who earnestly collected things and now want to sell them getting fucked over by those "BUY X BUY IT BUY IT NOOOOOW!" articles coming out after they've long done it without it being a big fad, because it's usually done by people who already own something trying to trick others to pawn off THEIR own crap
once articles about how something is gonna be "super big in the future trust me gais" start coming out, you better get off the ride, because every schmuck's gonna start getting into it
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There are a bunch of articles about this re: Boomers in particular:
I've also seen it in my own life. Boomers are looking to downsize and pawn off stuff to their kids, but their children don't want it, and even if they did, they have nowhere to put it.

One recent interaction involving a friend of mine went something like this:
Boomer-mom: "I want to move to Hawaii. I need to sell the house, so you're going to have to take in some of this stuff or pay for a storage unit. I can't take it with me."​
Millennial-child: "There's no space in my apartment and I can't afford $200/month for a climate controlled storage space."​
Boomer-mom: "Then you need to get a better job! I'm not going to be around forever."​
 
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