Science Complex molecules found on Saturn’s moon Enceladus

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BREAKING: Complex Organic Molecules Discovered on Enceladus For The First Time
It has everything needed to host alien life!


MICHELLE STARR
27 JUN 2018
The plumes of salty water shooting out of Saturn's ocean moon Enceladus have just ponied up one of the most significant ingredients for habitability: large organic molecules rich in carbon.

It's a discovery that suggests a thin, organic rich film atop the oceanic water table - very similar to the sea surface microlayer here on Earth, which is extraordinarily rich in organic compounds.

And yes, you guessed it. These findings bolster the hypothesis that, deep under its icy crust, Enceladus could be harbouring simple marine life, clustered around the warmth of hydrothermal vents.

Previously, simple organic molecules detected on the little moon were under around 50 atomic mass units and only contained a handful of carbon atoms.

"We are, yet again, blown away by Enceladus," said geochemist and planetary scientist Christopher Glein of the Southwest Research Institute.

"We've found organic molecules with masses above 200 atomic mass units. That's over ten times heavier than methane.

"With complex organic molecules emanating from its liquid water ocean, this moon is the only body besides Earth known to simultaneously satisfy all of the basic requirements for life as we know it."

Let that sink in for a moment.

One might think that a moon far from the Sun with an ocean covered by a thick crust of ice would be an unlikely place to look for extraterrestrial life, but the case for it is mounting.

Last year, Cassini data revealed the presence of molecular hydrogen in the plumes shooting off the surface of Enceladus - a possible source of which would be the ocean's water reacting with rocks via hydrothermal processes.

That process has been observed here on Earth - around hydrothermal vents, volcanic apertures in the seafloor that spew heat into the surrounding water.

These terrestrial hydrothermal vents are often far from the life-giving light of the Sun, which triggers the photosynthesis on which the vast majority of Earth's life depends.

But the warmth from the vents allows a different process to take place - chemosynthesis. Bacteria around the vents harness chemical energy, such as the reaction between hydrogen sulfide from the vent and oxygen from the seawater, to produce sugar molecules - food.

"Hydrogen provides a source of chemical energy supporting microbes that live in Earth's oceans near hydrothermal vents," said physicist Hunter Waite of the Southwest Research Institute, principal investigator on the Cassini Ion and Neutral Mass Spectrometer.

"Once you have identified a potential food source for microbes, the next question to ask is 'what is the nature of the complex organics in the ocean?' This paper represents the first step in that understanding - complexity in the organic chemistry beyond our expectations!"

The molecules were also detected by Cassini, which sampled an Enceladus plume before it was decommissioned in September of last year.

It then used its Cosmic Dust Analyzer and Ion and Neutral Mass Spectrometer to take measurements, both of the plume and of Saturn's E ring - the planet's second outermost ring, within which Enceladus orbits. It's formed by particles escaping the moon's gravity.

It's possible that a future probe may be able to dive through the plumes, equipped with a high-resolution mass spectrometer, to analyse those molecules in greater detail, and with more advanced technology.

Meanwhile, researchers here on Earth are continuing to observe and experiment on hydrothermal vents in the hopes of advancing our understanding of what life on Enceladus might look like.

And there are a number of proposed missions to actually send a craft to the ice moon to investigate more closely the possibility of life - and maybe even find it. But sadly, none of those are in development yet, so any such mission would still be years away, if it happens at all.

But, based on what we're still continuing to learn from Cassini, the moon is only looking more and more intriguing.

"Even after its end," Glein said, "the Cassini spacecraft continues to teach us about the potential of Enceladus to advance the field of astrobiology in an ocean world."

The research has been published in the journal Nature.

From above article:
"With complex organic molecules emanating from its liquid water ocean, this moon is the only body besides Earth known to simultaneously satisfy all of the basic requirements for life as we know it."

That’s some cool stuff.
 
There's multicellular life on Earth that doesn't use any oxygen at all at any part of its life cycle. Was discovered about a decade ago. It's not big, but it is pretty complex and the largest samples are just barely visible to the naked human eye. They're a weird clade of Loriciferans that live in deep sea anoxic basins and ocean sediments. Not much is known of their metabolism yet besides that they've been shown to live, mate, and lay viable eggs that hatch with no oxygen dissolved in the water at all. And also at very high hydrogen sulfide concentrations. But that's less weird.

Oxygen is actually poisonous. It killed most of the original inhabitants of the planet. Thanks for the cool information that there are actually animals who exist without it.
 
There's already copious amounts of energy being radiated uselessly into space 8.3 light minutes away. We just need to find a way to capture it.
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There is a huge enough energy source in space, I've even seen it a few times I've left my computer to walk outside.

The sun converts 4 million tons of matter into energy every second. That is indeed a lot of energy. Unfortunately for us, with the technical limitations of solar panels and the diminishing energy "density" per square metre at an increasing distance to the sun, that also makes me doubt that solar panels are viable to power most of these fancy new drive systems.

Why would they evolve since they have all they need?
Cause there's other things that need the exact same resources. Ie: there is a lot more competition for them.
Then again, that could also mean that there is one dominant lifeform that adapted so well, it managed to replace all others.

In such an environment, tardigrade-like creatures might be the best way to go. They can enjoy the good life near some hot vent and if that thing eventually runs out of steam, they just shrivel up and float around the ocean for a couple years until they float by another hot vent and set up home there.

If there is multi-cellular life on another planet, it would be so fucking interesting to see what they look like and how their metabolism works.

Then again:
There's multicellular life on Earth that doesn't use any oxygen at all at any part of its life cycle. Was discovered about a decade ago. It's not big, but it is pretty complex and the largest samples are just barely visible to the naked human eye. They're a weird clade of Loriciferans that live in deep sea anoxic basins and ocean sediments. Not much is known of their metabolism yet besides that they've been shown to live, mate, and lay viable eggs that hatch with no oxygen dissolved in the water at all. And also at very high hydrogen sulfide concentrations. But that's less weird.
With such outrageous creatures on our planet, I doubt they'd look any weirder in comparison.

Though I would welcome some lovecraftian horrors, would make for awesome sci-fi in the future.

So what ya'll saying is that there is complex organic molecules on Encaladus..... BOYS LETS GET THESE OIL RIGS FLYING!
As luck would have it, there's oppressed russian minorities on the south pole and according to CIA information, the North Pole is inhabited by terrorists who plan to built WMDs.
 
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The sun converts 4 million tons of matter into energy every second. That is indeed a lot of energy. Unfortunately for us, with the technical limitations of solar panels and the diminishing energy "density" per square metre at an increasing distance to the sun, that also makes me doubt that solar panels are viable to power most of these fancy new drive systems.

On Earth maybe (minus using solar power satellites), but solar power in space is totally different. Looking it up, Earth receives 1.7×10^17 joules of energy every second from the Sun. And in space, the sun is always shining unless you're behind something and there's no atmosphere to interfere.
 
On Earth maybe (minus using solar power satellites), but solar power in space is totally different. Looking it up, Earth receives 1.7×10^17 joules of energy every second from the Sun. And in space, the sun is always shining unless you're behind something and there's no atmosphere to interfere.
While that is all true, the problem still is that with increasing distance to the sun, the amount of energy drops significantly per square metre.
At twice the distance, it's a quarter of the energy and then there's the issue of solar panel efficiency.

I'm not saying that it doesn't have any uses (particularly anything going towards Mercury of Venus would profit... if the solar panels don't burn up due to the heat), but it's not a cookie-cutter solution either.
 
Plus solar panels can be easily damaged so they are better for space stations than for probes that are sent far away from any astronaut that can fix them. Such are generally powered by heat generating radioactive isotopes and built to consume as little power as it is possible.
 
Oxygen is actually poisonous. It killed most of the original inhabitants of the planet. Thanks for the cool information that there are actually animals who exist without it.
Yeah to date no known mass extinction event has come close to the Great Oxygenation event. Almost all life died. Even for oxygen adapted things like us a big part of our biochemistry is neutralizing free oxygen molecules and products from respiration, which all tend to be very toxic.
 
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