#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[SaidNoOneEver]

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What did he mean by this?

Ask him why they have a minimum age requirement to begin with. Are the other members not to be trusted around children?

 

[Not Even Twice]

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What did he mean by this?

Didn't they discover that several of the men in that chorus had convictions of child abuse?

 

[Rupin]

Didn't they discover that several of the men in that chorus had convictions of child abuse?

Yes. 6 of them are pedos. That’s the kind of shit Just Some Guy is defending. Fuck that piece of shit.

edit: I couldn’t really find evidence of any of them being pedos aside from twitter tweets and heresay bullshit from Youtube videos. The people in question only had the same name as the offenders in the registry and were located hundreds of miles away from San Francisco.

 

[The Token Ethnic]

Yes. 6 of them are pedos. That’s the kind of shit Just Some Guy is defending. Fuck that piece of shit.

I'm guessing he gets defensive since he's bi and is projecting some insecurities as well. He definitely gives off a catty gay vibe in some of his videos. I don't know how many takes you need on people trying to make LOTR and Tolkien "woke" or "queer" since he complains about the same thing in his DC/Marvel/Star Wars are shit due to (fill in the blank) videos.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

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What did he mean by this?

Jsm is probably a ped if he's defending convicted child offenders.

Zack should just leave youtube and quit comics.

 

[Rupin]

Jsm is probably a ped if he's defending convicted child offenders.

Zack should just leave youtube and quit comics.

that’s twice JSM has been seen defending some pedo shit so, I wouldn’t be surprised. People usually project the stuff they actually do before the news comes out that that’s really what they were the whole time. This is especially true for pedos.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

that’s twice JSM has been seen defending some pedo shit so, I wouldn’t be surprised. People usually project the stuff they actually do before the news comes out that that’s really what they were the whole time. This is especially true for pedos.

Is there a link of the choirs being pedos of have sex offender charges?

 

[Idiot Doom Spiral]

Just Some Guy didn’t just argue the case for Cuties, he spent prolonged periods on Twotter debating with all-comers about how it wasn’t an exploitative, unnecessrily sexualised view of children - he tried to convince everyone how crazy they were for not being happy about the provocative depiction of pre-pubescent girls.

I’ve seen scumfucks on forums before try to logically and subtly suggest ages of consent should be lowered; as well as intellectualising the technical definitions of pedo sub-groups etc - and all had the same persistent fervour as JSG.

One of the last times I watched FNT - mid/late 2020 - featured JSG as a guest, and when a superchat was read about him fanatically defending Cuties (in stark contrast to Az and Gary), he coincidentally was muted as ‘away’. I’d put money on JSG being a wrong ‘un.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I'm guessing he gets defensive since he's bi

He is probably a fag and not even bi. He doesn't give a shit about the pedoflix cuties disaster and even less so about the children that were molested by the singing pedo fags. It's only bad when it's about muh comics and the other stuff he consoomes.

 

[jspit2.0]

JSG is not a concervative but a libertarian and will probably call out both sides when stupid.

Also, he often talks about sexual abuse of young boys and from what I understand (and he has said in previous videos) somebody close to him was sexually abused as a boy.

As for the cuties situation, his videos were quite good - a lot of the backlash was because of how sexualized the netflix ad was (because the US have very bad takes over sex compared to Europe) promoting a French movie that wanted to be edgy (and France has a history of provocative or extreme movies like, for instance, Irreversible or Martyrs) but did so in a way that was too much for a lot of conservative audiences.
Now, I have not watched the movie to say if it is as bad as people assume.

yeah, another CG talking head is a socially liberal fiscal conservative.

WANDAVISION, what I saw of it, was great. There’s no denying that most of the MCU stuff is really well written and well made. I loved MANDALORIAN too. But I had to officially stop giving them my money and attention after the Gina Carano canceling, which was absolutely disgusting.

I can’t understand poking thru their movies and tv and toys to determine which are bad and which are terrible when the point is that the entire company is corrupt.

WandaVision is fucking terrible! What did you watch??

She kidnapped an entire town of people to play house with her dead boyfriend who its said specifically wished not to be resurrected!

CG has been mostly quiet this week. The big things are Comicsgate's Con....quest and the Dicking.

Richard C Meyers has mostly been following type, doubling and tripling down on trying to hedge his earlier 'be Ray Kroc but for comics." The point of the Founder, that Kroc was a terrible person that swindled two men out of their name apparently went over his head. Dickie has been deleting comments and pushing a victims narrative that, while typical, is difficult to sell to those with functioning brain cells. DA Talks and Boudica held an abbreviated stream promising more and I imagine we're going to see some massive ass covering from CG.

Which brings us to Ethan Van Scriver. Frog man has come surging back with livestreams. They aren't the greatest, but what is interesting is the two common threads running thru all of them. The first is him desperately pushing back as the chat, showing the stirrings of sentience, grumbles over Richard C Meyers heel turn. This is mostly boring, as Ethan, poorly, attempts to salvage his boi's stupidity. The second theme, the interesting one, is cons!

Those of you who have been long time CGtism watchers know that Frog on numerous occasions shat on cons. He has related some truly miserable experiences in recent years, that he believed them dead, and that he has the equivalent of them on his livestreams.

So it was surprising when Ethan basically came out declaring that 'for the fansfest', CGcon, is happening. He gives a fall date a year out. This is a sudden reversal.

I personally believe this is tied to a certain cancelled anime actor.

In the first above LS, Cecil, least interesting man alive, called in from Anime Matsuri, a convention. It was a thankfully brief call, as Cecil degrades the value of anything he touches. While at this con, Cecil, who to my knowledge is not much of a Weeb and whose content has broadly avoided Weeb Wars, was invited to speak at a Matsuri Panel and he relates getting to meet Vic.

My opinion of Vic just dropped.

I myself was amused to note that half this panel wore masks in an attempt to disguise their identity. True bravery. Would this be a foreshadowing of any CGcon? Forgot the guests, would the average con goer don disguises? I for one wonder at how this would impact safety. Needless to say, CG is a hive of internet tism with its members and foils regularly threatening each other and independent parties with all kinds of nonsense.

Joining Cecil was Reikata, YellowFlash, and everyones fav E-Thot Anna. Anna was supporting a Dragon Ball top and wearing an AllCap hat.

Ethan is at least open that he doesn't give a shit about manga, but that he's interested in selling Cyberfrog to Weebs. Seeing as these brain dead lemmings buy shit from the likes of TUG and YF, it's a possibility.

I will give this to our own Frog, he's the only one involved here I didn't sneer at. He's open and up front about his desire to grift the Weeb audience, unlike Cecil, Anna, Reikata, and YF. Whether he'll be converted to the glorious superiority of manga is up in the air. Worry not, some jackass recommended Berserk.

Off to the side, Frog's company is booming. We have a confirmed Pitt and a Shi Omni coming out along with more Cyberfrog and who knows what else. Honestly, forget Malin and Richard. Do Cyberfrog/Pitt/Shi.

 

[FROG]

Those of you who have been long time CGtism watchers know that Frog on numerous occasions shat on cons. He has related some truly miserable experiences in recent years, that he believed them dead, and that he has the equivalent of them on his livestreams.

So it was surprising when Ethan basically came out declaring that 'for the fansfest', CGcon, is happening. He gives a fall date a year out. This is a sudden reversal.

I personally believe this is tied to a certain cancelled anime actor.

In the first above LS, Cecil, least interesting man alive, called in from Anime Matsuri, a convention. It was a thankfully brief call, as Cecil degrades the value of anything he touches. While at this con, Cecil, who to my knowledge is not much of a Weeb and whose content has broadly avoided Weeb Wars, was invited to speak at a Matsuri Panel and he relates getting to meet Vic.

My opinion of Vic just dropped.

I myself was amused to note that half this panel wore masks in an attempt to disguise their identity. True bravery. Would this be a foreshadowing of any CGcon? Forgot the guests, would the average con goer don disguises? I for one wonder at how this would impact safety. Needless to say, CG is a hive of internet tism with its members and foils regularly threatening each other and independent parties with all kinds of nonsense.

Joining Cecil was Reikata, YellowFlash, and everyones fav E-Thot Anna. Anna was supporting a Dragon Ball top and wearing an AllCap hat.

Ethan is at least open that he doesn't give a shit about manga, but that he's interested in selling Cyberfrog to Weebs. Seeing as these brain dead lemmings buy shit from the likes of TUG and YF, it's a possibility.

I will give this to our own Frog, he's the only one involved here I didn't sneer at. He's open and up front about his desire to grift the Weeb audience, unlike Cecil, Anna, Reikata, and YF. Whether he'll be converted to the glorious superiority of manga is up in the air. Worry not, some jackass recommended Berserk.

Off to the side, Frog's company is booming. We have a confirmed Pitt and a Shi Omni coming out along with more Cyberfrog and who knows what else. Honestly, forget Malin and Richard. Do Cyberfrog/Pitt/Shi.

-I didn't get to see how WANDAVISION ended, but I loved the trip through classic television as Scarlet Witch dealt with denial and severe mental illness over the death of Vision. Behaving in a selfish, villainous way under those circumstances seems like good continuity, since Wanda started out as a villain in the comics anyhow. I liked it, your mileage varied.

-I've been talking about For the Fans Fest for two years now. The idea of a meet and greet annual convention for YouTube, ComicsGate, Fandom Menace, and Weeb Wars folks seems like a good time, and a profitable event. We had to drop it during CoVid, but it looks like a possibility again.

-My issue with conventions is that when you get caught up on the circuit, you begin to rely upon them for paying your bills. Creators do two or three per month, traveling around the world drawing commissions, and that eats into your work week for producing comics. And the whole scene becomes depressing. One big flea market filled with huge egos after another. I just feel done with it, however:

- ...I would produce an annual convention to help build up Indie comics and create a better sense of a business community. And I would also attend a different convention like Anime Matsuri as a guest, if I only did limited signing events and a panel discussion, in order to have a good time with friends and buy some comics. And yes, I'd love to sell CYBERFROG to manga fans.

 

[Miniluv]

But does anyone find it funny how he hasn't done a single one of his stories that he used to talk about wanting to do but not having time back in the Godking days? IIRC he had some idea about a story where a bunch of prisoners followed a regiment and got super powers or something? I feel like there was some other one that would get mentioned back in the days where he would actually do livestreams with EVS.

Instead he's putting shit out like Pandemic, No, Rock and Roll Ninja and 499?

Zack just says things.

To expect 2021 Zack would even remember stuff he used to think about in 2018 is kind of unrealistic. His diet of fast food and bodybuilding supplements has been feeding the ADHD squirrel in his brain for years and his thought process and decision making ability have completely burned out. His mindset has flipped when it comes to the subjects he made his name on. He defends SJW pros. He rails against his backers for daring to expect the costly product they paid for in a somewhat timely fashion. He shits on the idea that he even owes the customers a product at all. He doesn't want to market his books in any meaningful way. His YouTube output is less about reviewing comics and more about Twitter wars he said he was done with.

His current obsession with stories that he thinks are topical is also weird. Pandemic and No were mediocre at best and won't age well. Impossible Stars is a parable about the quarantine that has yet to see the light of day and the quarantines are all but over. Making a topical book is all well and good but it needs to get out while it's relevant. That can't happen when you have books taking over a year to fulfill. Superhero action stories are somewhat timeless and remain readable (even if a little dated in some cases) for years beyond their publication. Zack should have stuck with them because they're what brought him to the dance.

Richard C Meyers has mostly been following type, doubling and tripling down on trying to hedge his earlier 'be Ray Kroc but for comics." The point of the Founder, that Kroc was a terrible person that swindled two men out of their name apparently went over his head. Dickie has been deleting comments and pushing a victims narrative that, while typical, is difficult to sell to those with functioning brain cells. DA Talks and Boudica held an abbreviated stream promising more and I imagine we're going to see some massive ass covering from CG.

It's so weird that Zack is not only shitting on backers that rightfully complain about his bullshit, but then also uses them as the excuse for why he keeps launching new projects. He claims he does it because new customers want to buy his stuff. How is he attracting new backers in the last year? His YT viewership has plateaued and his last few projects haven't had near the appeal of Jawbreakers. His current fulfillment issues are eroding the trust of his customer base and many are talking about never backing him again. He doesn't promote or livestream. He barely even reviews comics anymore. Where is he getting new customers?

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

and that eats into your work week for producing comics.

It's not like they are producing comics anyway with how late the books are.

 

[Newman's Own]

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What did he mean by this?

JSG comes across as a "new atheist" turned anti-SJW turd burglar. This is completely congruent with his anti-religion prejudice and LGBTQ identity.

Those militant atheist degenerates and faggots are his people so he feels the need to defend them because they hate Christianity and love dick just like him.

JSG is not a concervative but a libertarian and will probably call out both sides when stupid.

Calling Cuties degenerate shit is not stupid. Defending it is.

Whataboutism used to defend a gay choir that's 'coming for your kids' and includes sex criminal members is stupid.

JSG might have some good takes about comics but that doesn't excuse his bullshit.

He can go fuck himself with this defending his tribe shit. If your tribe is full of pedos then start your own tribe that isn't.

Now, I have not watched the movie to say if it is as bad as people assume.

You don't have to see a movie that sexualizes preteens to form an objective judgement that sexualizing preteens is sick. JSG is prone to defending some really gross stuff. He is who he is just like Preston or Frog for that matter.

CG is cancerous aids.

Get over it.

 

[Greed]

He can't keep getting away with it

(anybody wanna send this to Dan Shahin and see if he takes the bait?)

 

[X Pac Heat]

So it was surprising when Ethan basically came out declaring that 'for the fansfest', CGcon, is happening. He gives a fall date a year out. This is a sudden reversal.

Nah. He's been talking about hating cons but wanting to do his own for CG fans for years now. As far back as just before Bloodhoney was released IIRC.

 

[Newman's Own]

Creators do two or three per month, traveling around the world drawing commissions, and that eats into your work week for producing comics.

YouTube.

CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET launched in March of last year raised 1 mil+ for a 48 page book that wasn't due for over a year and still manages to be late. Four pages a month is a Hell of a schedule to keep up with. GTFOH

And the whole scene becomes depressing. One big flea market filled with huge egos after another.

YouTube.

My issue with conventions is that when you get caught up on the circuit, you begin to rely upon them for paying your bills.

YouTube.

Meanwhile FROG spends the time he could spend making comics holding daily 4 hr panels on YouTube to talk about whether his next comic should be die cut, foil wrapped, both or reeeeing at Tom King, Heather Antos or some other soy based creator he's no better than with his circle jerk of yes man ego strokers.

But then again he relies on those sooperchats to pay the bills as he's told us many times.

"Depressing" is right. At least at the cons fans get the art commissions they paid for.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

But then again he relies on those sooperchats to pay the bills as he's told us many times.

"Depressing" is right.

DarkSydeFrog? Take that back! Say it ain't so!

 

[jspit2.0]

Ooooo. Goody. Bullet points!

-I didn't get to see how WANDAVISION ended, but I loved the trip through classic television as Scarlet Witch dealt with denial and severe mental illness over the death of Vision.

Yeah, the episodes solely riffing on a decade of sitcoms were as good as that decade they based around. But the actual story...

...Behaving in a selfish, villainous way under those circumstances seems like good continuity,

Like turning Hal Jordan into Parallax? The show goes out of the way to try to excuse what was a truly evil thing. Kidnapping people. Mind raping them. Its Jean Grey except she didn't turn any of them gay...

-since Wanda started out as a villain in the comics anyhow.

And there's where our disconnect comes. I judge Marvel cinema without a nostalgia lens. WandVision was two shows. The sitcom stuff, well the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s stuff at least, was great. It was the second show, the real one, that was ugly.

Reminds me of Jim Shooter. After Jean Grey destroys a planet, she doesn't get to walk away. There's no redeeming that and anything other than Karmic consequence is vile.

-I've been talking about For the Fans Fest for two years now. The idea of a meet and greet annual convention for YouTube, ComicsGate, Fandom Menace, and Weeb Wars folks seems like a good time, and a profitable event. We had to drop it during CoVid, but it looks like a possibility again.

This was different. It's a shift in attitude from you on cons. Which is fine. I look forward to you up on stage with a bunch of morbidly obese boomers in Halloween masks.

-My issue with conventions is that when you get caught up on the circuit, you begin to rely upon them for paying your bills. Creators do two or three per month, traveling around the world drawing commissions, and that eats into your work week for producing comics. And the whole scene becomes depressing. One big flea market filled with huge egos after another. I just feel done with it, however:

- ...I would produce an annual convention to help build up Indie comics and create a better sense of a business community. And I would also attend a different convention like Anime Matsuri as a guest, if I only did limited signing events and a panel discussion, in order to have a good time with friends and buy some comics. And yes, I'd love to sell CYBERFROG to manga fans.

Good for you. Like I said. You were the only person on stream I wasn't sneering at. Can't wait for Pitt to come out.

It's so weird that Zack is not only shitting on backers that rightfully complain about his bullshit, but then also uses them as the excuse for why he keeps launching new projects. He claims he does it because new customers want to buy his stuff. How is he attracting new backers in the last year? His YT viewership has plateaued and his last few projects haven't had near the appeal of Jawbreakers. His current fulfillment issues are eroding the trust of his customer base and many are talking about never backing him again. He doesn't promote or livestream. He barely even reviews comics anymore. Where is he getting new customers?

Richard has a large build in fanbase to coast off of. He's lost allot of periphery. Frog has helped him keep the CG core intact.

Nah. He's been talking about hating cons but wanting to do his own for CG fans for years now. As far back as just before Bloodhoney was released IIRC.

It's always been on the edges. It was brought up with some vague discussion, but followed by dunking on cons. The attitude on these three streams is a complete 180. Which I attribute to realizing just how much easier it might be to sell a Cyberfrog book to Weebs after a panel.

Anyway, this goes beyond just a CGcon to wanting to go to other cons as well.

 

[Miniluv]

Richard has a large build in fanbase to coast off of. He's lost allot of periphery. Frog has helped him keep the CG core intact.

That's not in doubt. Zack has a core of diehard fans who still view him as ComicsGate incarnate and will buy anything he farts out regardless of his recent bullshit and his decision to distance himself from CG without outright denouncing it. That's the only reason he hasn't denounced it. If he knew he could do it without losing a significant number of backers, he'd have taken a giant shit all over CG already.

I'm talking about Zack claiming he starts these new projects because he has new customers that want to buy his stuff and I just don't see how he has any significant amount of new customers. Every metric says his audience is shrinking and a sizable portion of the ones left aren't very happy with his direction in the last year.
He was getting backers because of his YouTube antics, yelling about comics and ripping them up in his Kia shitbox. He was getting subs from appearing on livestreams. He was promoting his stuff all over. He does none of that now, so I'm just wondering how he figures that there are so many new customers salivating for the opportunity to buy more G.I. Joe ripoff comics that he must prioritize them over actually getting his other projects out to customers that have been waiting over a year for their G.I. Joe ripoff comics.