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Gotta love how people worshipped and obsessed over this bitch for months only for her to appear in the game for like five minutes.
#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!
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Newman's Own
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Can you promote a book about coprophilia next or would that be to far for CG?
I mean they're already simps gleefully buying shit to consume so it's not a big stretch.
You should do a crossover where CyberFrog gets his face sat on.
Keep up the good work Uncle E.
Either way it's pretty funny. Let's get this weird fetish book over 20K and show the essjaydubs they aren't the only degenerates.
Or fail to break 10K because, well, it's a pretty niche fetish and even CG simps have limits Frog can't push through.
These girls are supposed to be 9' something. They seem closer to 15'. He should adjust his bios to reflect the art.
Still funny.
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Beautiful art, cool concept.
Professional looking art in a book about Giantesses MMA fighting. If you can't sell that, you can't sell ice cream.
Greed
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Having seen more pages from DAMEGANG, I'll admit it's not the worst thing you've ever promoted. The artist seems to understand through-lines and shape language, and the fetish stuff seems sparse enough that it's not too distracting.
My only real complaint is the inconsistent art. From the waist up the girls are cute fitness models. From the waist down they're the michelin tire man. It's like they all have a severe case of Lipedema (google at your own risk).
Anyway the concept is fun, I'll give it that.
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Looks like he exaggerates his drawings however and whenever he wants. But it still reads great.
Newman's Own
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Sure, but it could be stick figures and sell. As long as it's giant chicks dominating 4 foot tall simps then macrophiliacs are gonna eat it up.
Well done. So copro next or maybe acrotomophilia?
What do you call a woman with no arms and no legs on a roller coaster?
Jocelyn
Keep up the good work.
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Mecha
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Ass Ass Titty
I think One of the Jack Show regulars took it from Dan Fraga's streams and it's become popular lingo among those viewers.
Speaking of the Jack Show, I guess ThatStarWarsGirl is a football fan?
The video OJ Simpson there has up he's talking about Aaron Rodgers playing this year or something incredibly boring. I don't watch the Jack show so maybe there's a running joke about OJ? Aside from the obvious clout chasing, the Jack Show in my opinion is the worst thing related to CG. So this isn't all that surprising for the CG Wack Pack. From what little I've seen the Jack show is an aspiring CG version of Howard Stern, so the more shocking and tasteless it is the better.
Anyway
So @NasserRabadi13 What was your biggest take away from interviewing Rob Willis? Has your opinion improved or worsened after talking to the man? Any lessons learned that can be applied to other late projects in CG? I was only able to catch a few minutes of it. The Chat seemed to be mixed or hostile to him, but judging from his tweet after the show it looks like he's happy with how your interview went.
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I get a kick out of this. What Rob is doing is a variation on one of the things Donal was doing that Nasser criticized a great deal. (prioritizing other work over their project)
He even pulls a Peter Gilmore suggesting Rob demand more money than he's contracted for to finish the book.
Nasser is the best!
Edit: Willis says he'll be done this year or at least before June 2022.
Not sure how that works when he's on pace to be done some time in 2027....
Oh, I got it. I still find it funny and I'm absolutely gonna note as it passes all these other campaigns.
It's a good lesson on just how important focus testing should be. She absolutely wasn't in the game for long, nor was the creepy doll thing.
I'm sure we'll get some DLC that stars her and hopefully the doll creep.
Do it!
This time they're owning the Farms according to Ethan.
Wenger. Wart the Wizard. This book is better than either of those, Saidnooneever is right.
I thought it was funny a week ago?
Noted. I anxiously wait for the Cyberfrog/GiantessMMA teamup.
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Recently in Comicsgate:
Frog had a fairly sanguine livestream yesterday reading out news articles and commenting on them, covering topics like shilling, the FNAF guy getting cancelled, shilling, SJWs getting mad over Chris Pratt making pro-murka tweets, shilling, and Heidi McDonald's hit-piece on Bill Willingham over him returning to Fables. Frog mentions Bill Willingham's work on @TheCosmicWarrior 's Deus Vult, which missed both McDonald's and Sketch Therapy's notice. Offhandedly, Frog wonders when Willingham will be working on his contribution for the Cool Story Bro ashcan for Reignbow Brute if he's going back to DC to make more Fables. But most importantly, he made sure to promote DAMEGANG again.
I fell asleep half way into this stream because it was just Willis' unloading a stream of conciousness of excuses and justifications for ditching his client and backers with no pushback from Nasser, but the gist of it was Rob Willis' perspective was the offered commissions pay more than working on Shinobi Sasquatch and he's got bills to pay in between now and when he gets 80 pages done so that's that, and he hopes people will inexplicably back his crowdfunded comic coming up in the future.
@COMMI3 MARK decided to diverge from his usual programming of yelling into tincan microphones about 70s britcoms like Blackadder and God knows what else to take a swing at nominally allied breadtuber and Vaush lackey Xanderhal after the latter's lacklustre takedown of OJ Simpson fan Anna That Star Wars Girl. So far it's been Mark's highest viewed video.
The increasingly mentioned CGTM logo creator Chris "HeroShack" Tamuelivich offers this disturbing clarification in response to Well Read User1 and crew's "battle of the three-digit campaigns" review of his mature work Cluster Fudge. In the review, the $705-grossing Cluster Fudge was placed against the $840-grossing crudely drawn space porn comedy Asstro. Anyways, Chris clears the air by saying that the depicted scene described as the hero Cluster Fudge was not performing necrophilia on his wife in front of his children as described and instead the elderly protagonist was masturbating to a surreptitiously recorded sex tape of his deceased with when their kids walked in.
Replace the giant monkey with a giant woman and you're already half way there.
Frog had a fairly sanguine livestream yesterday reading out news articles and commenting on them, covering topics like shilling, the FNAF guy getting cancelled, shilling, SJWs getting mad over Chris Pratt making pro-murka tweets, shilling, and Heidi McDonald's hit-piece on Bill Willingham over him returning to Fables. Frog mentions Bill Willingham's work on @TheCosmicWarrior 's Deus Vult, which missed both McDonald's and Sketch Therapy's notice. Offhandedly, Frog wonders when Willingham will be working on his contribution for the Cool Story Bro ashcan for Reignbow Brute if he's going back to DC to make more Fables. But most importantly, he made sure to promote DAMEGANG again.
I fell asleep half way into this stream because it was just Willis' unloading a stream of conciousness of excuses and justifications for ditching his client and backers with no pushback from Nasser, but the gist of it was Rob Willis' perspective was the offered commissions pay more than working on Shinobi Sasquatch and he's got bills to pay in between now and when he gets 80 pages done so that's that, and he hopes people will inexplicably back his crowdfunded comic coming up in the future.
@COMMI3 MARK decided to diverge from his usual programming of yelling into tincan microphones about 70s britcoms like Blackadder and God knows what else to take a swing at nominally allied breadtuber and Vaush lackey Xanderhal after the latter's lacklustre takedown of OJ Simpson fan Anna That Star Wars Girl. So far it's been Mark's highest viewed video.
The increasingly mentioned CGTM logo creator Chris "HeroShack" Tamuelivich offers this disturbing clarification in response to Well Read User1 and crew's "battle of the three-digit campaigns" review of his mature work Cluster Fudge. In the review, the $705-grossing Cluster Fudge was placed against the $840-grossing crudely drawn space porn comedy Asstro. Anyways, Chris clears the air by saying that the depicted scene described as the hero Cluster Fudge was not performing necrophilia on his wife in front of his children as described and instead the elderly protagonist was masturbating to a surreptitiously recorded sex tape of his deceased with when their kids walked in.
Jawbreakers/Damegang is the obvious crossover.
Replace the giant monkey with a giant woman and you're already half way there.
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Newman's Own
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Sure, much better. I wouldn't dispute that but 99% of all Indy comics funded anywhere are objectively better than Mandy and Wenger's so I'm not sure that's noteworthy.
I could whip every quadriplegic on the planet but that doesn't make me a tough guy.
It was. I hadn't really paid attention in about a week I think. I wasn't expecting anyone to still be talking about it. It's funny, but not that funny.
Did anything interesting happen with DAMEGANG or is the fact funding carries on the big news?
I guess it's been a slow week.
An interesting strategy for "owning the Farms".
'We'll beat them by upping milk production.'
Ok.
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The Ed McGuiness comparison is ... hyperbolic. Why not compare him to Jim Lee or Todd McFarlane?
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Imagine their disappointment when they discover instead of owning the Farms, they now own a fetish book to reaffirm they are attracted to grown women. Or maybe Ethan really meant "buying the Farm" which would seem to indicate these patrons are all about to die tragically. Now that's a bold move for a cult leader just starting out. I might have recommended setting up a proper compound first, but who am I to tell a man how and when to serve his kool-aid?
But you know what? I don't know if I could really blame them leading up to the glorious release of an overgrown man in a rainbow costume being felt up by an effeminate man-child in a flower dress. You really have to be confident in your manhood for that, just like Ethan.
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On the bright side, at least they are not John T. Lamont's 4 backers.
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I don't get where the giantesses come from, do they breed with the little men? Or do they breed with giant men?
Are all men tiny, and all women giants? No giant men?
How do the little men impregnate the giantesses with their tiny dicks that would barely get past the giantess labia?
It's a very odd fantasy, this tiny man-giant woman fantasy. It's like a kind of stunted child thing. Parnell was right when he called it out as a Robert Crumb type fetish, the moment Frog introduced it to him.
But whatever turns Frog on I guess - I think he's quite innocent (or is he?) of the darker underbelly of that MMA/strongwoman scene, the giant whores who get hired by little men to put them in wrestling holds, stuff like that.
The reality of giant MMA women.
And indeed, the reality of giants!
No true MMA fan can ever forget ZULUZINHO (Little Zulu, seen smiling here), son of legendary Brazilian streetfighter Rei Zulu (King Zulu, seen making a trumpet face here):
Or where he came from:
Unfortunately for the Zulus, being a big fat giant turned out not to be the MMA game-changer they'd hoped it would be:
Are all men tiny, and all women giants? No giant men?
How do the little men impregnate the giantesses with their tiny dicks that would barely get past the giantess labia?
It's a very odd fantasy, this tiny man-giant woman fantasy. It's like a kind of stunted child thing. Parnell was right when he called it out as a Robert Crumb type fetish, the moment Frog introduced it to him.
But whatever turns Frog on I guess - I think he's quite innocent (or is he?) of the darker underbelly of that MMA/strongwoman scene, the giant whores who get hired by little men to put them in wrestling holds, stuff like that.
The reality of giant MMA women.
And indeed, the reality of giants!
No true MMA fan can ever forget ZULUZINHO (Little Zulu, seen smiling here), son of legendary Brazilian streetfighter Rei Zulu (King Zulu, seen making a trumpet face here):
Or where he came from:
Unfortunately for the Zulus, being a big fat giant turned out not to be the MMA game-changer they'd hoped it would be:
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It's better, right?
Also. after the scrolling through what felt like 15 pages of boring tldr back and forth circular arguments guessing and speculating about YBZ and the music in Rock n Roll Ninja I just had the artist on the show to ask him those questions outright.
Time stamped obv
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Feels like I've been waiting my entire life for someone to ask me this question.
Mister Dongs
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According to the IGG page, the premise of the book is that in the world of DAMEGANG, there are women born with "giantism,", which "happens in the same way, and at about the same frequency, as the way some people become dwarfs". The impression I got is that creator Billy Nunes simply isn't aware that gigantism exists in real life.
Yes, I watched the whole thing which is something given my lack of interest in efap vids in general and Anna TSWG specifically. I still think you need a noise pass filter on your audio though; it's hard to listen through the hissing static whenever you talk.
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The book is still incredibly late, but my opinion on Rob improved a great deal. There was a bit of a bombshell for those who missed it: Cal said in the update only 17 pages are done. While there's only 17 that are penciled and inked, Rob told us there are actually 50 pages of pencils only, not inked. That's a big revelation because it means Cal lied and tried, in many ways, to smear Rob in the update, especially when he told people "Stop giving Rob work or I'll tell people not to back your projects."
Rob was nice and he was honest about his situation. I think he definitely should have planned better, should have taken into consideration his real life obligations and known his schedule. But he was honest about it and knows he messed up and should have planned better. I'm absolutely fine with a late campaign of somebody owns up to it like Rob did and admits they should've thought things out more. That's something you will NOT get from Elliot Fernandez or other late artists. Elliot will just block you and refuse refunds instead, like he did to me.
I didn't criticize that a great deal. donal actually texted me before taking on Vestige saying he was offered to do another book. I said if you can still finish Brutas on time do it. He said it wouldn't get in the way. It did get in the way but was not my main problem with donal, my main problem was his constant lies about me and the book, and his theft.
That's not what I said. Rob said that out of the $86k or whatever the book raised, he was given about $7k in advance. The rest is to be split when the book's finished. I just asked if he might need a little more now (instead of at the end) to get production going on more pages instead of looking for other gigs. It was just a suggestion. It's not like Peter, who did not want to do the book anymore at all unless I could scrape together $12,000+ for sub-par work that NOBODY likes.
I don't know man, I wasn't there to fight. I just thought it would be a good idea to see what he has to say as far as his lateness for the art, and what he thought of Cal and his Jon Malin derangement syndrome. Rob did give excuses but at least he owned up to poor planning.
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This isn't a bombshell. 17 completed pages is still only 17 completed pages in TWO years. Have you seen how long it takes Willis to ink a page? Mitch Breitweiser has some serious competition in the battle to be the slowest producer in CG.
If he had spent his time doing the book, he would have gotten his 50% already. He wouldn't have need to take on a much work as he did until after Shinobi Sasquatch was complete. He made one shitty excuse after another for not meeting his obligation to not just Cal, but to the backers.
I don't care how good his art is, I'm never backing another book Willis is connected to.
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Context is everything.
Rob says he's "not making any money off Shinobi". "I'm making maybe $200 a page ... maybe a little more"
Nasser replies, "Do you think the way around that is that Cal has to pay you more? Have you asked him to pay you more?" (not 'pay you sooner')
That's not 'suggesting he ask for more of the money in advance.' That's suggesting he ask for more pay to finish. You are full of shit Nasser. This is exactly what Gilmore did with you, holding the book hostage when it's partially complete.
Rob's gripe isn't when he's getting paid for Shinobi. His gripe is how much he's getting paid now that he gets way more for commissions and he still has to meet his commitment to Shinobi for much less money. I'd like to see what Malin offered him to fuck over Cal. I'm sure Cal would be happy to give more advances on pages if it meant getting the pages faster since he can't do another IGG until he fulfills this one so his writing career is stalled until Rob feels like finishing.
When Rob says he's only making $200 a page he's not being completely honest. This isn't exactly true as he receives additional moneys from the pages sold. And it's a tell when he says "maybe a little more". That means definitely more. Also 45 Pages are selling for $300 per through the campaign which will be pure profit and split according to their agreement. Rob is getting at least half that money, probably more.
So Rob is making $200+ per page plus $150 to $300 per page sold through the IGG he agreed to and then he'll have 35 pages of the 80 left to sell at up to $1000 bucks a pop. That puts Rob's effective page rate on the book between $350+ and $500+ per page (all of which he agreed to) with 35 leftover pages he can sell for much much more. Most artists not working for the big two would kill for that kind of money but the exposure Shinobi Sasquatch got led to higher commission rates for Rob so now he can do a few commissions a month and cover his bills for the family.
To Rob's credit it looks like he isn't interested in fucking over his partner anymore than he already is and he balks at the idea of demanding more money than agreed upon.
I feel for Rob because he's got bills to pay and he dug himself a hole. But it is his hole and Cal can't start another IGG project until Rob finishes the first. He is fucking over Cal and he knows it.
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Let's say Rob makes the low end of what we know about.
$350 a page (with art sales on 45 pages) with 81 pages including the cover. 45 pages at $350 + 35 at $200.
That's $22,750+ plus whatever he can sell the remaining 35 pages plus cover at. Let's go low on those pages and say $600 given the excitement over Rob's abilities.
That's $22,750+ plus whatever he can sell the remaining 35 pages plus cover at. Let's go low on those pages and say $600 given the excitement over Rob's abilities.
Now let's assume he's getting the full $300 for IGG page sales and the $1000 he gets for commissions for his 35 remaining pages and the cover (which should be even more).
That's about $22,500 for the first 45 pages and IGG art sales + $7,200 for the last 35 pages plus cover and $36,000 for the remaining art pages and cover.
And it was the Shinobi project that got Rob the exposure that drove up his commission rate to $1000per in the first place.
I don't feel that bad for the guy...
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