#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Mister Dongs]

I take allegations on the level of the ones made against Liam seriously and place a high burden of proof when being tossed about on the internet. Roiloup/SWC is the fellow who posted them and asserted them as fact. But he also asserted that any denial of the incident was a violation of the AVO, and yet here Liam is. What doesn't bolster their credibility either is that they initially claimed the victim was his wife, when it's clear that Liam is unmarried. Roiloup himself says was "told" this information from an unidentified source and accepted it unquesioningly, so who knows.

Liam's defense is kind of shit also though because the screenshot Roiloup made referenced both a "Liam Cameron Gray" of Sydney and a "Liam Gray" of Grafton, the latter being the one facing charges.

 

[Newman's Own]

Liam, have you ever considered pursuing independent comics outside of comicsgate? What is it about comicsgate in particular that you find appealing?

I want you to consider something. What if, and feel free to call me crazy, but what if the problem was never with Tim Lim, Nerkish, Doug, Mike, Edwin, the Wheelers, Mark Pellegrini, Bean, Vikki, etc, but Ethan Van Sciver, the cult of personality surrounding him, and the community he and others have cultivated? I caught your stream today. I heard how Ro spoke to you. I heard how Ethan spoke to you, even if jokingly. None of it sounded particularly rewarding, whether financially or socially.

You've seen the meat grinder of CG. You've seen supposed friends and allies made into villains at the drop of a hat. What is it that makes you think you won’t be next?

I'm pretty sure Liam is what you'd call a "true believer".

Not in the Stan Lee sense but in the religious sense. You could show a Mormon incontrovertible proof that Joseph Smith was a charlatan and they'd still choose his words over yours.

Liam is way to invested in Ethan Van Sciver being what he thought he is to confront the reality of what he and his petty little WarCampaign actually are.

Ethan's gonna save comics so no matter what him and his dildo squad do along the way it's justified for the greater glory.

He's a loon.

 

[Analog Devolved]

I'm pretty sure Liam is what you'd call a "true believer".

Not in the Stan Lee sense but in the religious sense. You could show a Mormon incontrovertible proof that Joseph Smith was a charlatan and they'd still choose his words over yours.

Liam is way to invested in Ethan Van Sciver being what he thought he is to confront the reality of what he and his petty little WarCampaign actually are.

Ethan's gonna save comics so no matter what him and his dildo squad do along the way it's justified for the greater glory.

He's a loon.

All of this gay crying because so called professionals that criticize other peoples art for sucking couldn't admit that the bratzpirella cover sucks balls. They would rather implode their whole gay army than criticize something one of their internet friends did.
That star wars girl cover is trash.
WC speds rightly called it trash.
Cue the chest slapping retardation that ends in cecil having a hissy fit and malin going absolutely bonkers.
Meanwhile the chief gay operators can't figure out what to do, sketch therapy shits himself all over Twitter and they have these multi hour retard streams trying to patch things up.
All of this because they couldn't admit artwork was bad.
In the end the average person who isn't deeply invested in the long term harassment campaign led by Ethan against all of his enemies are stuck holding their dicks wondering when comics are going to be released.
Mitch Breitweiser, the biggest charlatan of them all gets off scott free.
CG is a cult and they should all drink the fucking Kool aid at this point.

 

[jspit]

Brain Hibbs (San Fransico comic retailer) lost his shit on facebook due to DCs decision to re start some deliveries.

So for those who don't know about this shop king, Brian Hibbs used to a big swinging dick back when the Big Two gave a damn what shop owners thought. He's checklist San Franciscan with the politics you'd expect and that bleeds into his views on comics apparently. He does not go in on CG. He's still a big deal in the direct market, after Diamond its the shop heads. But he doesn't understand, or want to understand that his shop, which is one of the few that will still be standing post Corona, is now irrelevant to DC and Marvel's future plans.

More lolsuit threats. Who are you going to be suing for deformation?

Does he mean pursuing?

 

[Newman's Own]

Are you gonna make good on your threat @FROG ?

Timestamped

 

[cow-wannabe]

I take allegations on the level of the ones made against Liam seriously and place a high burden of proof when being tossed about on the internet. Roiloup/SWC is the fellow who posted them and asserted them as fact. But he also asserted that any denial of the incident was a violation of the AVO, and yet here Liam is. What doesn't bolster their credibility either is that they initially claimed the victim was his wife, when it's clear that Liam is unmarried. Roiloup himself says was "told" this information from an unidentified source and accepted it unquesioningly, so who knows.

Unfortunately for Liam he sort of dug his own grave in his matter with his behaviour during the F.A.N. allegations. He as good as said he was fine with spreading allegations as fact and it was the duty of the accused to prove their innocence on Twitter beyond reasonable doubt. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe the stuff about the mother or the puppies, but I think his twitter stance regarding baseless allegations will make it very hard for him to prove damages.

 

[CheezzyMach]

DC plans to start shipping to a few states soon. Batman #92 has been delayed until June which tells you that full distribution will (at best) resume then.

He can still be reached through PM or in the hangers-on thread. I'm pretty sure he wrote why he was threadbanned in that thread, but it boiled down to self promotion, shitting up threads, and most of all being a gigantic faggot.

Welp Diamond's fucked, especially if Marvel follows suit.

 

[FROG]

Are you gonna make good on your threat @FROG ?

Timestamped
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yIUyNmyFwv8:786
View attachment 1240255

So I proved that I didn't commit fraud in front of a few thousand people to their total satisfaction, and YouTube's Hills Have Eyes have decided to come out and say that I did anyhow.

I'm totally cool with things the way they are.

Keep making me look good, dummies. CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET is at $636,518 and climbing!

 

[cow-wannabe]

So I proved that I didn't commit fraud in front of a few thousand people to their total satisfaction, and YouTube's Hills Have Eyes have decided to come out and say that I did anyhow.

I'm totally cool with things the way they are.

Keep making me look good, dummies. CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET is at $636,518 and climbing!

You waved a fake screeshot, contradicted yourself, belatedly changed the text on your IGG campaign...and then just said "it is nothing to do with me, it was all the fault of my fullfilment company, who I won't name..."

....who everyone knows is Dynamite.

Talking about Dynamite, that's a huge plot-twist for Comicsgate. People been thinking they are fighting against mainstream comics, when all the while you have had them secretly working to sell comics distributed by one of the big mainstream companies.

I really must remember to congratulate Dynamite on their big-wins with BLOOD HONEY and REKT PLANET.

So, not only did you fail to prove you hadn't commited fraud with the coins, you went on to prove that you had defrauded every member of CG by tricking them into generating millions of distribution-dollars for a mainstream comics company (Dynamite) while you told them were supporting indie comics.

Well done.

 

[FROG]

You waved a fake screeshot, contradicted yourself, belatedly changed the text on your IGG campaign...and then just said "it is nothing to do with me, it was all the fault of my fullfilment company, who I won't name..."

....who everyone knows is Dynamite.

Talking about Dynamite, that's a huge plot-twist for Comicsgate. People been thinking they are fighting against mainstream comics, when all the while you have had them secretly working to sell comics distributed by one of the big mainstream companies.

I really must remember to congratulate Dynamite on their big-wins with BLOOD HONEY and REKT PLANET.

So, not only did you fail to prove you hadn't commited fraud with the coins, you went on to prove that you had defrauded every member of CG by tricking them into generating millions of distribution-dollars for a mainstream comics company (Dynamite) while you told them were supporting indie comics.

Well done.

Thanks for calling BLOODHONEY and REKT PLANET "big wins!"

REKT PLANET is on track to get to a million dollars, so please back it today! Your support is appreciated!

https://igg.me/at/OUElNcZhgNI/x/3778633#/

 

[Adamska]

*pigroach noises*

Hilarious that you can only talk about grifting a smaller pool of paypigs (seriously, you sound like a desperate and narcissistic beggar) and silently stayed off thread, likely fuming, until you could shame your little gay CorpSec group into behaving for now. Only came in feeling like Billy Badass when you had your posse shamed and not ready to fucking revolt and kill off what's left of your more autistic GG mafia.

Gonna love it when Malin leaves full on because you'd rather play gay ops and grift a few hundred pigs than grow an industry with tens of thousands.

 

[CapeKnight]

Thanks for calling BLOODHONEY and REKT PLANET "big wins!"

REKT PLANET is on track to get to a million dollars, so please back it today! Your support is appreciated!

https://igg.me/at/OUElNcZhgNI/x/3778633#/

"Big wins" wasn't a compliment you retard. It was a backhanded slap in the face because that's all you can brag about, which is petty as shit.

Also, is some mod gonna go something about the dude shilling his product? Or are we letting him continue to post to milk his cowtitties?

 

[Adamska]

"Big wins" wasn't a compliment you exceptional individual. It was a backhanded slap in the face because that's all you can brag about, which is petty as shit.

Also, is some mod gonna go something about the dude shilling his product? Or are we letting him continue to post to tard cum his cowtitties?

Honestly, this thread probably needs to be nuked partially and purged with promethium since the containment thread's purpose failed horribly and it bleeds regularly to here.

 

[KingofNothing]

All of this gay crying because so called professionals that criticize other peoples art for sucking couldn't admit that the bratzpirella cover sucks balls. They would rather implode their whole gay army than criticize something one of their internet friends did.
That star wars girl cover is trash.
WC speds rightly called it trash.
Cue the chest slapping exceptionalism that ends in cecil having a hissy fit and malin going absolutely bonkers.

WC would have a stronger position if they didn't crowd around Wart the Wizard and defend Mandy while at the same time whining about a cover that is objectively better (if still not great) So I'm pretty sure it's not about quality, they just don't like Anna considering how they made such a big deal out of it since they're apparently completely fine with people paying 25 bucks for a book of nothing but this level of art.

 

[Jub-Jub]

REKT PLANET is on track to get to a million dollars, so please back it today! Your support is appreciated!

If it follows the same pattern as BH it's not, Backer tracker is still basing too much off your first day sales.

WC would have a stronger position if they didn't crowd around Wart the Wizard and defend Mandy while at the same time whining about a cover that is objectively better (if still not great) So I'm pretty sure it's not about quality, they just don't like Anna considering how they made such a big deal out of it since they're apparently completely fine with people paying 25 bucks for a book of nothing but this level of art.

They slipped up early and said what it was really about. Anna "jumped the queue" implying that there is a line everybody has to stand in, with positions decided by WC, and they are angry because she subverted their ""authority"". The THOT, THE WHORE, SHE SHOULD KNOW HER PLACE!!!!111one

Dynamite likely asked her as she has a large social media following of thirsty nerds and interacts with CG. The argument that she somehow doesn't promote CG is bunk when she puts up with hours of livestream nonsense from Kelsey, Malin and Cecil three way smaller CG channels on the j.a.c.k show. I haven't seen much but i'm pretty sure they do small promotions of CG works on the show and have mods constantly posting links to iggs. The cover isn't great, but it's ok-ish. The biggest sin to me is the eyes, it's like they are looking at different locations so you get a <- -> effect. It also happens all the time.

EDIT:

1. If you have video evidence of the alleged victim attesting to your innocence, why not just release it now to definitively clear your name?

Why does he need to go to the lengths of having the police record a domestic violence victim saying it wasn't him? Why not just post something that shows his full name or initials. Shit if I was Liam (totally not Cameron) Gray, 4 out of 5 cards in my wallet could do it right now, without doxing any more information than my name, which is already known to the world. The accusations would be immediately debunked and you wouldn't have to hide behind this weird I'm totally not him, I have super secret evidence, I'll sue you! posturing. IIRC posting evidence to show that the accusation is false would also strengthen his lolsuit, it could constitute malice if the accusation was repeated by somebody who should know it to be false. You can triple your non-existent damages.

@Tyne prove it faggot.

 

[Analog Devolved]

More proof that CG is a cult just waiting for Frog to pull the trigger.
This retard has a shrine to EVS/War Campaign in his room. I thought this was a photoshop at first and had to do a double take. Unbelievable.

A shrine to War Campaign.

He even printed out the chicken fry artwork as a backdrop for his homemade cyberfrog action figure. This may just be a mega autist but the handmade WC rainbow points to deranged stalker.

 

[Newman's Own]

So I proved that I didn't commit fraud in front of a few thousand people to their total satisfaction, and YouTube's Hills Have Eyes have decided to come out and say that I did anyhow.

I'm totally cool with things the way they are.

Keep making me look good, dummies. CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET is at $636,518 and climbing!

Sounds like someone's mad at the internet.

You haven't proved shit until you back up your claims with actual evidence Ethan. All you have to do is name Dynamite to do that.

But if you did that and you were lying (which you are) you'd be on the hook for defaming your partner.

You seriously threatened to sue and some of your most hated enemies said "I dare you". They're punking your bitch ass.

And you've got nothing???

You are so full of shit it's coming out your ears Ethan. You won't make good on your threats because you made empty threats.

I believe the correct descriptor for you is paper tiger, Ethan.

When your pussy gets sore it's a full on body ache.

 

[boofit]

Where's the laughing at cows faggots?

The CG threads have become unreadable what with all the butt hurt bitching adding no value.



Checking out say Whale Simone's, Rim's and Huckster Antos' twitter they hardly get any interactions anymore which fills me with delight. These whores are done.

Must be the bucks dried up and the whole charade was make believe.

 

[cow-wannabe]

Where's the laughing at cows faggots?

I don't know about cows, but extracting the milk from a frog is proving to be entertaining.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

if it's criticism directed at one of them, it's immediately invalid. comicsgate, much like any other online "movement", has an extremely tribal mentality. if you're CG, you can do no wrong.

I know this has been harped on to hell and back, but that cover may be one of the worst variants I've ever seen. anyone defending it is caping for someone with the skill level of an average middle school anime club member.

You could unironically find shit of better quality on DeviantArt.

Then again, that is still better than a lot of professional comic book art nowadays.