#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Yosha]

Some of the exceptional individuals on Twitter are really pulling a page out of Kelly Sue Deconick's book with the whole "don't like, don't buy it" with Anna's cover.

Didn't Richard say something to never say shit like that? And to take criticisms where valid? "Speak one thing, do another" is really the comicsgate motto at this point.

I think Zack doesnt even want to be called CG anymore. When he was on a stream with ethan someone asked him if he is CG and he didnt anwser. Thank god ethan came with a rescue and said something like " he doesnt have to say it cause he is the godfather and we know he is CG".
Funny how they are not questioning Zack, but are bitching about anna for 6 days now. I am sure Zack believes in the idea of CG, like most of us here, but saying you're CG just puts you in the group of idiots.

 

[CapeKnight]

Getting the fuck off twitter really needs to become a core tenant of comicsgate.

Oh, but how else, in the age of social media, are these fucks gonna market their books and appeal to the internet dwellers who remotely have some interest in the niche culture of comic books (not the movies) and make their paypigs squeeze out the money?

I think Zack doesnt even want to be called CG anymore. When he was on a stream with ethan someone asked him if he is CG and he didnt anwser. Thank god ethan came with a rescue and said something like " he doesnt have to say it cause he is the godfather and we know he is CG".
Funny how they are not questioning Zack, but are bitching about anna for 6 days now. I am sure Zack believes in the idea of CG, like most of us here, but saying you're CG just puts you in the group of idiots.

He's doing himself a disservice by remaining silent and not cutting his losses now. Whether it's out of loyalty, naivety, or willful ignorance, this isn't going to be good for business in the long run. You wanna sell hot dogs, meanwhile everyone knows you're friends with the fuckers who go around bullying people who don't buy hotdogs, and you freely associate with them. Not trying to imply that you aren't free to associate with people you want, just saying, those judgmental things people want to say? They're coming from people who might have been potential and existing customers.

If Richard's serious about having a career, he's gotta business savvy. Refusing to speak out about his friends unprofessional behaviors and fence sitting makes him look like a fucking coward. This is the worst case scenario of trying to mix friendship with business.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

5o capn cummings is now a Christian channel and made a video about cg deplatforming del arroz.

https://youtu.be/mZpeEFEuofU

 

[Comicsgeist]

5o capn cummings is now a Christian channel and made a video about cg deplatforming del arroz.

https://youtu.be/mZpeEFEuofU

Phil is such an irrelevant sperg that he'd probably come third if there was an award for irrelevant spergs.

 

[off meds / online]

Some of the exceptional individuals on Twitter are really pulling a page out of Kelly Sue Deconick's book with the whole "don't like, don't buy it" with Anna's cover.

Didn't Richard say something to never say shit like that? And to take criticisms where valid? "Speak one thing, do another" is really the comicsgate motto at this point.

if it's criticism directed at one of them, it's immediately invalid. comicsgate, much like any other online "movement", has an extremely tribal mentality. if you're CG, you can do no wrong.

I know this has been harped on to hell and back, but that cover may be one of the worst variants I've ever seen. anyone defending it is caping for someone with the skill level of an average middle school anime club member.

 

[CapeKnight]

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More Sketch Therapy nutfucking his own brain in Liam's stream. @Mister Dongs I see what you're doing there, nice one lad.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

anyone defending it is caping for someone with the skill level

It's just hypocritical to judge Anna's shitty cover when cg endorsed and funded monstrosities as stealing solo, the littlest umbrella and wart the wizard. Im not defending her shitty cover but its stupid to purity test and go after her. She does the almost crying bit in her videos a lot but she isn't that bad tbh.

 

[Yosha]

It's just hypocritical to judge Anna's shitty cover when cg endorsed and funded monstrosities as stealing solo, the littlest umbrella and wart the wizard. Im not defending her shitty cover but its stupid to purity test and go after her. She does the almost crying bit in her videos a lot but she isn't that bad tbh.

You're right. There are CG projects that have 30+ pages of shitty art, while here everyone is bitching,for days, about the cover that isn't even a CG project. It's fucking Dynamite and everyone forgets that. They are just wasting their time with questions like, '' is anna even cg?''. In my opinion Dynamite did a good job by offering this to Anna, cause even with a shitty cover she still got them more money then some of pro CG artists.

 

[off meds / online]

It's just hypocritical to judge Anna's shitty cover when cg endorsed and funded monstrosities as stealing solo, the littlest umbrella and wart the wizard. Im not defending her shitty cover but its stupid to purity test and go after her. She does the almost crying bit in her videos a lot but she isn't that bad tbh.

oh, I laugh at them all, personally. it's simultaneously funny and sad to see artists with such little talent get this far because they know which bandwagons to jump on and which actually talented people to buddy up with.

much like other members of CG, anna really comes across to me as an unrepentant asskisser. I know that this is the reality of getting a career in almost any form of creative media, but it's depressing to be reminded that you can get thousands of dollars in funding for sucking the right metaphorical dick and not because you have genuine skill.

 

[Mister Dongs]

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More Sketch Therapy nutfucking his own brain in Liam's stream. @Mister Dongs I see what you're doing there, nice one lad.

Watching Liam try to "mediate" an untreated psychopath into a semblance of normal behavior was great.
The first hour is watching people try to talk to Sketch Therapy like a rational human being and sending him off into an uncontrollable rage.
The second hour was Panboy talking to Sketch using mentally ill illogic and Warcampaign orthodoxy and quickly placating him while promising to humble Jon Malin.
Now Jon Malin has emerged from lurking in the chat to scream at Panboy.

It's just hypocritical to judge Anna's shitty cover when cg endorsed and funded monstrosities as stealing solo, the littlest umbrella and wart the wizard. Im not defending her shitty cover but its stupid to purity test and go after her. She does the almost crying bit in her videos a lot but she isn't that bad tbh.

Of course. The only thing that really factors into this is that Anna hates Ro Kabir because he mocked the disappearance of his sister and then refused to apologize. That makes Anna Ro Kabir's enemy, and therefore Warcampaign's enemy. Concerns about quality or loyalty, both of which don't hold under scrutiny when compared against other projects approved by WC, are merely obfuscations around this core issue. However, Cecil and Malin are circumscribed from disparaging other CG creators' work, and are thus unable to point out the much worse trash that has met WC approval.

 

[FROG]

JDA: ''Ethan and Co have already mass reported the campaign.''

hahaha, this will be funny, cause now they will look like SJW if they will want to make this go away.

Nobody is flagging or reporting the campaign. JDA claiming victimhood is part of his marketing strategy.

It's a pretty funny parody, and frankly, kinda flattering. I laughed at the trading card called "Back Hole."

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

metaphorical

Sometimes literal.

Nobody is flagging or reporting the campaign. JDA claiming victimhood is part of his marketing strategy.

Isn't most cg projects we're funded by victimhood? Zack getting his contact TI'ed, Tug knocking down his mailbox and framed Shannon McCormick and Renfamous, and your streams being jilted ex streams about the same 3 people, victimhood is cg's breadwinner and without it you guys wouldnt even hit 5k

Concerns about quality or loyalty

Quality and Loyalty does not mix with cg sadly. Anna has all the right in the world to not associate with wc after what they done. Sometimes too far is too far.

 

[FROG]

Ethan said he just wanted to squeeze that small portion of fans rather than getting more fans in the quartering stream.

That's not what I said at all. Quartering accused me of "not fighting the fight" anymore, and that's why I wasn't going to make half a million dollars.

I said that 2018 and 2019 were stressful and anxious years for me and if not having to go through all that bullshit meant I'd only make $200K on the sequel, but I'd have some peace, that would be fine with me.

Turns out I've got some peace and $610,000. People want to back CyberFrog. I think I'll meet or surpass the backer number from BLOODHONEY too.

@FROG's first 30 days has completed at ~$609k. Congratulations
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Now to look at some comparisons
Rekt Planet (30day)
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Bloodhoney (60day)
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Rekt planet is much more heavily front loaded than the Bloodhoney campaign making the graph look skewed, he brought in 8K more on the last day than bloodhoney. However he also had half as many backers (665 to ~358 ), how much this is due to bloodhoney being originally touted as a 30day campaign before being extended and Rekt planet being 60days is yet to be seen. As of right now he is ~800 backers down from the prior campaigns 30 day period and will need 3362 more backers to tie with Bloodhoney at ~112 per day. This might happen, but if it follows the bloodhoney trend this will be very hard to pull off. The biggest increase is that the paypiggies have been milked for twice the pledge ($62 to $116).

BLOODHONEY was a slower burn, and I used a different tactic. I put ads in all of my daily recorded Star Wars videos with the IGG link in the description. I ended up getting a lot of casual backers at the $25 level. I might return to that for month two. Fewer livestreams, more ten minute funny pop culture videos with a CYBERFROG ad at the front. That's the best way to get new backers.

REKT PLANET was about finding out what my devoted base was. I've got 3500 people who signed up for email notifications, and I knew that they were enthusiastic backers that would back the campaign with big numbers right out of the gate. They loved BLOODHONEY and wanted more.

Also, I added the EXECUTIVE HONEYCOMB BOX at $200 to guarantee them every item in the campaign. This shrinks my backer count, inevitably, because it means that unless they return to buy another box, they aren't backing twice for multiple small items. But it obviously blows up the dollar amount, which is more impressive, and I believe will lead to more casual backers.

I think we'll match the BLOODHONEY backer number, but in any case, we're going to come damned close to 7 figures with this campaign. It's going to guarantee another huge result for CYBERFROG 3.

 

[Yosha]

Nobody is flagging or reporting the campaign. JDA claiming victimhood is part of his marketing strategy.

It's a pretty funny parody, and frankly, kinda flattering. I laughed at the trading card called "Back Hole."

oh, ok, good to know that. first of, i am not your biggest fan, but congrats on the 600k+.

second... why is everyone being such a moron lately? Just when the mainstream is going down in flames, people are losing their shit in CG over pretty much nothing. And I know you said you dont want to get into this, but damn has it been a mess.

 

[Smug Freiza]

That's not what I said at all. Quartering accused me of "not fighting the fight" anymore, and that's why I wasn't going to make half a million dollars.

I said that 2018 and 2019 were stressful and anxious years for me and if not having to go through all that bullshit meant I'd only make $200K on the sequel, but I'd have some peace, that would be fine with me.

Turns out I've got some peace and $610,000. People want to back CyberFrog. I think I'll meet or surpass the backer number from BLOODHONEY too.

I watched that stream and you directly said "I'm happier earning more money from less people so long as I don't have to deal with the problems more people bring."

The implication is that you are happy earning more money from less people, which is self evident since your average backers amount went from $62/backer (Bloodhoney) to $116/backer (Rekt Planet). Quartering privated that stream but I'm sure clips of the exchange are on youtube.

 

[FROG]

oh, ok, good to know that. first of, i am not your biggest fan, but congrats on the 600k+.

second... why is everyone being such a moron lately? Just when the mainstream is going down in flames, people are losing their shit in CG over pretty much nothing. And I know you said you dont want to get into this, but damn has it been a mess.

Cabin fever? I dunno. Everybody seems loopy the past week.

I watched that stream and you directly said "I'm happier earning more money from less people so long as I don't have to deal with the problems more people bring."

The implication is that you are happy earning more money from less people, which is self evident since your average backers amount went from $62/backer (Bloodhoney) to $116/backer (Rekt Planet). Quartering privated that stream but I'm sure clips of the exchange are on youtube.

I didn't say that, because that's not how I feel. Quartering was telling me that I had stopped being a culture warrior and was too busy with infighting, and I needed to fight SJWs more.

He was saying I would make LESS MONEY because of this, and I said I'd rather make less money and not deal with SJWs trying to ruin my life.

Again, Quartering's entire point was that I wasn't going to ever see $500K again. There's no way to extrapolate that to mean that I would be making more money from less customers.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Well congrats on the first 30 days of Rekt planet, i hope that the delivery will be more timely, since its going to ship in spring 2021 and the virus will calm down so hopefully the books will have timely release.

The infighting and drama will hurt your brand so you'll probably going to need to clean house with wc before you lose Malin and Cecil.

 

[A nameless trool]

I watched that stream and you directly said "I'm happier earning more money from less people so long as I don't have to deal with the problems more people bring."

The implication is that you are happy earning more money from less people, which is self evident since your average backers amount went from $62/backer (Bloodhoney) to $116/backer (Rekt Planet). Quartering privated that stream but I'm sure clips of the exchange are on youtube.

The fact that, in the Malin/Ro stream the one making the most sense is Sketch Therapy should speak volumes...

This is a picture of how the 'SJW' comic book industry operates: A small, vocal fraction of psychopaths is dryhumping on the big players and "fight their oponents" in exchange for any job.
A lot of wannabes who want to break into comics humor the big players and their lackeys for the oportunity to work on a big-two character as a way to make a name. The CG equivalent is access to the big channels and their streams to promote their IGG. Malin mentions that in the stream.
The psychopaths will purity test those wannabes to grand them access to the big heads. Sometimes they will be rewarded with work too.

However, once jobs become scarcer (or, in the case of CG crowdfunding becomes too crowded) the wannabes will cancel others with zero oportunity, using the psychopaths.
What are you basically witnessing is the CG version of "The Left is Always Eating Itself" - which has little to do with the Left and more to do with how toxic the comic book industry is.

@FROG has spent so many years in this environment that he thinks all the wrongdoings of the comicbook industry are normal and repeats a lot of it, because he knows no better.
Mallin and Cecil (and Zack) seem to be wierdos with some experience in the real world and will probably distance themselves. Mallin though is not CG-Jesus like Zack, so he cannot ignore everybody and go live near the border without bothering.

There is little difference between EVS and Joe Q, TUG and Mags, Ro and Renfamous

 

[Newman's Own]

You're right. There are CG projects that have 30+ pages of shitty art, while here everyone is bitching,for days, about the cover that isn't even a CG project. It's fucking Dynamite and everyone forgets that. They are just wasting their time with questions like, '' is anna even cg?''. In my opinion Dynamite did a good job by offering this to Anna, cause even with a shitty cover she still got them more money then some of pro CG artists.

Dynamite doesn't give a fuck about this drama. And why should they.

 

[Analog Devolved]

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Rekt Manlet has surpassed it's funding goal on IGG so it looks like its happening. How much do you want to bet this beats Cyberfrog to backers?

I actually like the art in this book it's better than anything CG is putting out. For all the WC sperging about Bratz covers while simping to wort the wizard it's hilarious to see JDA winning without kowtowing to the autists.
Who could imagine if you actually pay your artists and promote your own books instead of relying on the sperg network that you can actually get a decent looking comic made without a bunch of limp wristed slapfighting drama?
This popped up when I was checking on the progress of EVS's cyberfrog campaign lmao.