#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[NSA]

I listened too and one of Doug's main defenses was "I didn't set out as a conspiracy to 'use' Comicsgate, people don't do that sort of thing". As if that somehow excludes him from being a shallow opportunist.

Cecil was right about this guy from the get-go.

What exactly are you accusing Doug of? Did he lie his way into EVS's good graces? Because I don't remember that happening. I've been tracking this little drama cluster for about a year and this is what I see: I see a giant ego control freak who keeps tightening his grip and the harder he squeezes the more people slip out and leave. I see a guy with a gigantic following taking public shots at people with much smaller followings over the most petty of bullshit, then doing nothing to stop the huge shit storm those people have to deal with afterwards. Sometimes the shit overflows onto one of his buddies like G+G and only then does he step in and tell the autistiic hoard to stop. If someone like that helped you out once, but then you had to hold your tongue forever in fear, would you stay or leave?

 

[FROG]

Ethan, your entire "rainbow push" of the last few months has been an attempt to get Doug to sperg out and say something anti-gay so that he can be deplatformed.

You want him to be deplatformed, because he got too big and successful and you couldn't control him.

You replied to Mike Miller's "Pride is a Sin" a WEEK after he posted it and made it a BIG thing that everyone had to weigh in on. Why did you do this? There was no reason to, especially since whatever incredibly minor kerfuffle it caused had long died down.

It seems like you blew up Mike's tweet in order to needle Doug. You suddenly got the idea when it looked like Earthworm Jim was going to pass Cyberfrog. You scrambled for something not-so-obvious to trap Doug with. You knew talk of LGBT stuff and "Where comicsgate fell" on the issue could rankle Doug. You wanted him to trip up and make an anti-gay statement so that IGG would deplatfrom his campaign before it outgrossed yours. You even posted tweets asking Doug questions like "Is Earthworm Jim pro-gay or anti-gay?" just to try to get Doug to say something stupid. Nothing really tripped him up, so you kept getting more and more and more obvious about what your goal is: to get Doug to trip up on LGBT stuff so he can be deplatformed.

This is transparent. It goes along well with your Mr Innocent routine about "I-I'm just askin' questions, guys! I-I don't know, IS Earthworm Jim a homophobe? Is Doug TenNapel a transphobe? I-I'm just askin'!"

You know what you're doing. Every day more and more people can see it. Doug left and stopped wanting anything to do with you and your sycophants. You increased your harassment of him on his way out, and have kept at it to this day. You spent most of Pride Month trying to goad Doug into deplatforming himself in response to your needling, and then you have the nerve to play the victim when he didn't give you a shout out at Comic Con?

You're a sociopath. You spend months harassing someone for their religious beliefs in order to trick them into losing funding for their book, and then you have the nerve to drum up further harassment of them when they don't THANK YOU?

Doug had already dedicated Bigfoot Bill to you. But on the inside cover he also thanked two OTHER people, so that was something else for you to sperg out about. How DARE he have thanked someone ELSE besides YOU?

You're a better artist than Doug. You're a better YouTuber than Doug. I don't like Doug's religion or his politics. But you're a complete snake and a sociopath. You don't need Doug to make money. He doesn't need you. CG never needed him, but he brought it some credibility. He didn't need CG either, but for a while it helped him some. Let it go. You don't need to control everyone, Ethan. Stop proving Gail Simone right. Stop turning into Gail Simone.

All I do, every day, is use my platform to help the creators who come to me asking for help getting notice and getting their books funded.

Doug was one of those. If he didn't need me, he sure sounded like he did. If he didn't need me, he shouldn't have wasted our time.

I devoted hours and hours helping him get back onto his feet, taught him what it meant to be ComicsGate: Keep religion and politics out of our discourse and comics, fight SJWs in comics, and ostentatiously get books funded via that method. There were times when he raged at the fans, calling them SJWs when they disagreed with him and refunded their contributions, and I called him and calmed him down.

"That doesn't work here. Ego has to go when it comes to customers. Apologize to them and they'll support you again."

He kind of apologized, but pretended it was an Andy Kaufman routine, etc. It was forgiven. But many ComicsGaters noticed and weren't buying it.

I stayed up with him all night on the last night of BigFoot Bill. Overjoyed with raising $50K in 8 hours, he promised to dedicate the book to me. I was moved.

The next day he told me he wasn't going to use the ComicsGate hashtag anymore, and I was kinda bummed out. We enjoyed having Doug in the group chats, etc. He said he wanted to be himself, and that meant being an outspoken Christian, etc. Totally understandable.

The one thing I asked of him is to please not run down the movement. I felt, and still feel that as a force, it could stand up to the mainstream of comics. People believe in it, want to support it, and there's plenty of funding to go around for other creators who might follow him.

He promised me he wouldn't run down ComicsGate.

Two days later he was calling us a "SJW Rainbow Coalition" and telling fans that we were "Anti-Christian". Refunds from angry Christians came pouring in.

More comments about how "Caesar historically has always been cruel to Christians."

Why? Because my tweets have an ironic rainbow emoji, a frog emoji and a shrugging emoji.

Doug started reaching out to lunatics who hate me, like Amazing Adam, and offering to platform them. The dedication in BigFoot Bill arrived, my name and two of my worst enemies underneath it. Doug went to SDCC and did a panel on crowdfunding and didn't mention my name.

Something was wrong. So I tweeted that I thought it was strange that I didn't get a thank you, there, where it mattered. Where it would have been brave of him.

He inboxed me in a rage, and told me I'd put a "hit" out on him. We discussed it, and worked it out. Left the conversation on good terms, understanding one another.

The next day he blocked me on twitter.

Doug went on a full tirade now, condemning my fans, particularly War Campaign, and accusing me of using them to abuse fans. War Campaign split open, and leaks emerged that probably would have incriminated me if this were so, but the leaks were ugly enough that I condemned War Campaign publicly.

ComicsGaters are now reaching out to me in private, telling me that Doug is actively seeking allies in some kind of war against me.

I don't want to know Doug. I don't want to hurt him, and I certainly never want to help him again. I just want him to go his way, and to allow me to go my way without him accusing me of being anti-Christian and of trying to undermine and destroy a movement that has helped and would continue to help dozens of creative people. The idea that I'm trying to harm him or deplatform him is sick. I wish him well, but please stop thinking about me.

I'm frankly sorry I ever took pity on him.

 

[anionfarflung]

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[LL 196]

Ethan, your entire "rainbow push" of the last few months has been an attempt to get Doug to sperg out and say something anti-gay so that he can be deplatformed.

You want him to be deplatformed, because he got too big and successful and you couldn't control him.

You replied to Mike Miller's "Pride is a Sin" a WEEK after he posted it and made it a BIG thing that everyone had to weigh in on. Why did you do this? There was no reason to, especially since whatever incredibly minor kerfuffle it caused had long died down.

It seems like you blew up Mike's tweet in order to needle Doug. You suddenly got the idea when it looked like Earthworm Jim was going to pass Cyberfrog. You scrambled for something not-so-obvious to trap Doug with. You knew talk of LGBT stuff and "Where comicsgate fell" on the issue could rankle Doug. You wanted him to trip up and make an anti-gay statement so that IGG would deplatfrom his campaign before it outgrossed yours. You even posted tweets asking Doug questions like "Is Earthworm Jim pro-gay or anti-gay?" just to try to get Doug to say something stupid. Nothing really tripped him up, so you kept getting more and more and more obvious about what your goal is: to get Doug to trip up on LGBT stuff so he can be deplatformed.

This is transparent. It goes along well with your Mr Innocent routine about "I-I'm just askin' questions, guys! I-I don't know, IS Earthworm Jim a homophobe? Is Doug TenNapel a transphobe? I-I'm just askin'!"

You know what you're doing. Every day more and more people can see it. Doug left and stopped wanting anything to do with you and your sycophants. You increased your harassment of him on his way out, and have kept at it to this day. You spent most of Pride Month trying to goad Doug into deplatforming himself in response to your needling, and then you have the nerve to play the victim when he didn't give you a shout out at Comic Con?

You're a sociopath. You spend months harassing someone for their religious beliefs in order to trick them into losing funding for their book, and then you have the nerve to drum up further harassment of them when they don't THANK YOU?

Doug had already dedicated Bigfoot Bill to you. But on the inside cover he also thanked two OTHER people, so that was something else for you to sperg out about. How DARE he have thanked someone ELSE besides YOU?

You're a better artist than Doug. You're a better YouTuber than Doug. I don't like Doug's religion or his politics. But you're a complete snake and a sociopath. You don't need Doug to make money. He doesn't need you. CG never needed him, but he brought it some credibility. He didn't need CG either, but for a while it helped him some. Let it go. You don't need to control everyone, Ethan. Stop proving Gail Simone right. Stop turning into Gail Simone.

I think you should stop and re-asses this. You're accusing EVS of laying traps, knowing how Doug T. would react and predicting it with perfection yet somehow not predicting that Doug so many other things? Blowing up tweets to antagonize Doug? Using rainbow frog emoji's to ruffle his feathers?

EVS has done some stupid shit but you're accusing him of having divine powers of prediction and emotional manipulation. And get Doug deplatformed from what? Sure as hell not Indiegogo or Youtube because EVS needs those. Every deplatforming of anyone, even people like Vox Day, is one step closer to deplatforming of more mainstream people with flimsier excuses.

If TenNapel wanted nothing to do with EVS, the solution is simple: just stop talking about EVS. It's literally not anything more complicated than that. You know who people don't talk about? Brett R. Smith who left CG and doesn't stir shit up and people generally still respect and remember fondly for his excellent coloring work on Jawbreakers. You know who is doing the opposite of that? Doug TenNapel and practically everyone who left #comicsgate in a huff.

 

[mindlessobserver]

#movements are always, and will always be autistic as all hell. They go all the way back to Chanology, which was an autistic attack on Scientology. God that was over 10 years ago now, wasn't it? The simple truth is the barrier to entry is zero and anyone can happily take up the flag or put it down in as publicly or privately a manner as possible. Any effort to put any sort of "organization" upon an internet movement is a futile effort.

As with Chanology, so too with GamerGate and now ComicsGate. People coalesce around an idea, it might even be a good idea, but people will never truly agree on just what that idea actually is. They will have a general opinion on what the idea is, but when the inevitable arguments over details begin, the whole thing will go off the rails. Arguments over who is the "real" #movement, followed by egotistical drama spats done in public and then oblivion as the crowd moves on the next cause of the day.

 

[Adamska]

Spoiler: Simple Observations on the Situation

How middle-aged men are acting right now:

What they should be doing:

How to stop acting like that:

What the stalking and drama fanning people that stalk this thread just to cry @FROG look like:

Seriously, Yaboi at this point is the only one I respect and completely trust at this point when it comes to just wanting to make stories in a printed medium.

 

[anionfarflung]

I remember someone was talking about Jacobins in one of the EVS's streams one time and got shit on for it. Seems prescient now. "In modern American politics, the term Jacobin is often used to describe extremists of any party who demand ideological purity. "

The person was using it to mock cannibalistic SJWs, but maybe just discussing the concept in a #comicsgate stream hit too close to home.

 

[AnOminous]

I remember someone was talking about Jacobins in one of the EVS's streams one time and got shit on for it. Seems prescient now. "In modern American politics, the term Jacobin is often used to describe extremists of any party who demand ideological purity. "

Thomas Jefferson was a huge fan of the Jacobins and probably would have made a good (i.e. terrifying) Jacobin himself under the proper set of circumstances.

 

[Immortal Technique]

Frogman left his camera on during a test of OBS. He has been streaming an empty chair for like an hour. There are almost 1,000 people watching. I can't help but find these boomerisms adorable.

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Finally, a real chair stream. I can't help but laugh thinking there are streamers out there that are getting beat by a empty chair in a room.

 

[Space_Ghost]

All I do, every day, is use my platform to help the creators who come to me asking for help getting notice and getting their books funded.

Doug was one of those. If he didn't need me, he sure sounded like he did. If he didn't need me, he shouldn't have wasted our time.

I devoted hours and hours helping him get back onto his feet, taught him what it meant to be ComicsGate: Keep religion and politics out of our discourse and comics, fight SJWs in comics, and ostentatiously get books funded via that method. There were times when he raged at the fans, calling them SJWs when they disagreed with him and refunded their contributions, and I called him and calmed him down.

"That doesn't work here. Ego has to go when it comes to customers. Apologize to them and they'll support you again."

He kind of apologized, but pretended it was an Andy Kaufman routine, etc. It was forgiven. But many ComicsGaters noticed and weren't buying it.

I stayed up with him all night on the last night of BigFoot Bill. Overjoyed with raising $50K in 8 hours, he promised to dedicate the book to me. I was moved.

The next day he told me he wasn't going to use the ComicsGate hashtag anymore, and I was kinda bummed out. We enjoyed having Doug in the group chats, etc. He said he wanted to be himself, and that meant being an outspoken Christian, etc. Totally understandable.

The one thing I asked of him is to please not run down the movement. I felt, and still feel that as a force, it could stand up to the mainstream of comics. People believe in it, want to support it, and there's plenty of funding to go around for other creators who might follow him.

He promised me he wouldn't run down ComicsGate.

Two days later he was calling us a "SJW Rainbow Coalition" and telling fans that we were "Anti-Christian". Refunds from angry Christians came pouring in.

More comments about how "Caesar historically has always been cruel to Christians."

Why? Because my tweets have an ironic rainbow emoji, a frog emoji and a shrugging emoji.

Doug started reaching out to lunatics who hate me, like Amazing Adam, and offering to platform them. The dedication in BigFoot Bill arrived, my name and two of my worst enemies underneath it. Doug went to SDCC and did a panel on crowdfunding and didn't mention my name.

Something was wrong. So I tweeted that I thought it was strange that I didn't get a thank you, there, where it mattered. Where it would have been brave of him.

He inboxed me in a rage, and told me I'd put a "hit" out on him. We discussed it, and worked it out. Left the conversation on good terms, understanding one another.

The next day he blocked me on twitter.

Doug went on a full tirade now, condemning my fans, particularly War Campaign, and accusing me of using them to abuse fans. War Campaign split open, and leaks emerged that probably would have incriminated me if this were so, but the leaks were ugly enough that I condemned War Campaign publicly.

ComicsGaters are now reaching out to me in private, telling me that Doug is actively seeking allies in some kind of war against me.

I don't want to know Doug. I don't want to hurt him, and I certainly never want to help him again. I just want him to go his way, and to allow me to go my way without him accusing me of being anti-Christian and of trying to undermine and destroy a movement that has helped and would continue to help dozens of creative people. The idea that I'm trying to harm him or deplatform him is sick. I wish him well, but please stop thinking about me.

I'm frankly sorry I ever took pity on him.

Holy Shit @FROG This is a huge lie. Doug apologized to you and you went after him for 3 days saying he used you for your audience, called him anti-gay and ended it with calling him a transphobe. Then acted surprised you got blocked. Instead of asking him in privately why he didnt thank you, you made it public to rile up your sycophantic fans against him. You love the drama, you revel in it for superchats. He had to refund people because of that. Was this payback for your alleged "anti-christian" refunds? You are a sociopath. Final note saying you want apolitical content while fighting SJWs is retarded and a contradiction of itself dumbass.

Since I'm here let's clear the air on this as well. Edwin Boyette exposes multiple warcampaigners for wanting to hunt doxes (ImNotTyler, Jorge, and Panboy) with a threat that sounds like they wanted that "clown pup" swatted and the CGanon account that was coordinated by Gat Hanzo, the writer of the warehouse 13 ripoff, and Panboy against Nerkish. You saw this evidence and you're gonna go with the Praetorian did it alone spin? You have to be the dumbest fuck around to think that's not going to bite you in the ass.

 

[GranDuke]

Doug went on a full tirade now, condemning my fans, particularly War Campaign, and accusing me of using them to abuse fans. War Campaign split open, and leaks emerged that probably would have incriminated me if this were so, but the leaks were ugly enough that I condemned War Campaign publicly.

People were saying that War Campaign guys were retarded and causing troubles for ages now. Yet you kept ignoring that and defended them till it became impossible to defend. It is natural to assume that you either were 100% okay with what they were doing or that you were, to some extent, directing them.

 

[Zigzag]

What exactly are you accusing Doug of? Did he lie his way into EVS's good graces? Because I don't remember that happening. I've been tracking this little drama cluster for about a year and this is what I see: I see a giant ego control freak who keeps tightening his grip and the harder he squeezes the more people slip out and leave. I see a guy with a gigantic following taking public shots at people with much smaller followings over the most petty of bullshit, then doing nothing to stop the huge shit storm those people have to deal with afterwards. Sometimes the shit overflows onto one of his buddies like G+G and only then does he step in and tell the autistiic hoard to stop. If someone like that helped you out once, but then you had to hold your tongue forever in fear, would you stay or leave?

It’s what evs accused him of during I believe the ice ice baby live stream.

 

[AriZona_LaD]

All I do, every day, is use my platform to help the creators who come to me asking for help getting notice and getting their books funded.

I thought all you did every day was make shitty anti-SJW videos and mutilate Rose Tico dolls.

Admit it, because we all see your channel, you are way more interesting in this petty drama than actually funding books. That's fine, but quit acting so noble.

 

[Comicsgeist]

Well thank fuck that one was fake at least and things aren't too far gone yet... I mean, shit's still fucked, but still... I only wish her "fans" would celebrate with a lesser dose of smug and without calling everyone they disagree with a nazi who needs to be burned at the stake and have their lives ruined.

Fake Tweet Used to Try And Discredit New Marvel Comics Writer, Alyssa Wong

Two weeks ago, Greg Pak announced that fantasy, sci-fi and comics writer Alyssa Wong was to work with him on the current Aero series, writing the

www.bleedingcool.com

I find Rich Johnson's outrage at a smear campaign against this odious bitches reputation genuinely hillarious.
Is running a campaign to smear and slander the people you don't like in comics supposed to be the exclusive domain of Bleeding Cool, Rich?

People were saying that War Campaign guys were exceptional and causing troubles for ages now. Yet you kept ignoring that and defended them till it became impossible to defend. It is natural to assume that you either were 100% okay with what they were doing or that you were, to some extent, directing them.

I see no benefit to EVS indulging in or directing gay ops that shrink his customer base, the man's primarily interested in making money and the WC section of his fanbase would buy Ethan's fucking bathwater if he were to bottle and sell it, that's Ethan's incentive to ignore their fuckery. That and the fact he's not their dad.
I suspect that when EVS began getting refund requests from the normies sick of all the drama, that was the point at which a cost/benefit analysis of ignoring WC finally resulted in Ethan taking action to protect his brand with the larger customer base.

Doug however is currently attempting to build his own version of WC to conduct gay ops, cuddling up to Exceptional Adam, Nassar and whatever bitter backstabbing sped he can currently get on-side.
We all know how that's going to end.
I can't wait until Doug inevitably disappoints the autists like Adam and Nassar and the bitter clout chasers that he's chosen to surround himself with (just as he dissapointed super sperg Sketch Therapy, who Doug also used to platform and invite on his show). It will be pretty funny watching him deal with the shitshow that ensues, I'm sure Ethan will relish the schadenfreude as Doug has to put out a tard-fire of his own making.

 

[FROG]

I thought all you did every day was make shitty anti-SJW videos and mutilate Rose Tico dolls.

Admit it, because we all see your channel, you are way more interesting in this petty drama than actually funding books. That's fine, but quit acting so noble.

Hi Renfamous!

 

[AriZona_LaD]

Hi Renfamous!

Ethan, this is by far the dumbest thing you have written in this entire thread.

 

[FROG]

People were saying that War Campaign guys were exceptional and causing troubles for ages now. Yet you kept ignoring that and defended them till it became impossible to defend. It is natural to assume that you either were 100% okay with what they were doing or that you were, to some extent, directing them.

The people telling me that were mostly goofballs that I saw in their own little gay ops groups, who contributed just as much static as WC. Or they were people who I know despised me. And then their allies.

Those people had some reach however, and influenced others, especially indie creators who weren't invited on my show, and created a scapegoat in WC.

Two things happened at once. First, those "influencers" roped in Edwin, who is highly emotional. He joined Mike Miller, who was in the middle of a problem with Ro Kabir, (Mike went off about Muslims vs. Christians or some such thing) and Ro ripped into Mike on a livestream, accusing him of the financial mishandling of his campaigns and several other things. Mike was nursing a grudge over that, and I was aware of it.

Mike and Edwin both came to me in private, having seen evidence that WC were doxxing people and subjecting them to weird "tribunals", and I needed to join them in denouncing them. I asked to see the evidence, and they both refused to show it to me. "You just gotta trust us, brother. We'd trust you."

That's when the first livestream happened, when I told everyone in general, equally, to knock it off.

Then the guy who provided Mike and Edwin with the evidence came to me, and revealed most of what they had: "Praetorian", who was a big part of WC last year, but had kind of faded away, let me know that he was feeling terrible guilt about what he'd done, so he was flipping on WC. He apologized to me, and revealed that he was personally responsible for almost every confusing bit of bullshit that happened to ComicsGate last year, including obsessively stalking Sashi, and creating the "ComicsGate Anon" account that warned me that Nerkish was going to be doxxed.

"Praetorian", who is Jewish, was furious that Nerkish's Discord was filled with edgelord Holocaust memes. And he had some kind of problem with Sashi and others who were regulars on my livestreams. I still don't know why.

Praetorian's screenshares of private messages between him and his buddies utterly incriminated him.

His screenshares were cut off in convenient places...one of the guys talking about how he wanted to dox "Rumble Terrier" was cut right before Ro Kabir told him they don't dox, that's not our thing, we're not criminals, etc

I haven't heard Edwin's "tribunal" recording yet, and I'd be anxious to hear it. If it shed light on more individuals behaving poorly, I'd expose them.

But everyone involved has an agenda of their own, and I really don't want to get into a position where I have to play Judge Wapner to a bunch of nerds with memes on the internet.

The idea that I'm either "100% Okay With What They're Doing" or that I'm "To Some Extent Directing Them" is fucking stupid.

When I can see what they're doing, (public activity) I'm often okay with it when it involves funny memes that make fun of pros and public figures in and outside of ComicsGate.

If I were directing them to any extent, you'd have seen it by now. This garbage eventually leaks, and evidence of me directing War Campaign would be the ComicsGate equivalent of Russian Collusion. People would literally pay to see it.

I've "directed" them on two occasions that I can recall: 1. Leave Sashi alone, please. 2. Leave Popefire alone, please. Both to Ro Kabir, who acted flummoxed. No wonder, it was Praetorian that was doing it.

So...fuck it. I'm always open to EVIDENCE. And I'll need that before I condemn a regular customer of mine, which is where Praetorian finds himself now.

Ethan, this is by far the dumbest thing you have written in this entire thread.

Stop talking like dumb anti-CGers on twitter and you'll get a more thoughtful reply from me.

 

[Space_Ghost]

The people telling me that were mostly goofballs that I saw in their own little gay ops groups, who contributed just as much static as WC. Or they were people who I know despised me. And then their allies.

Those people had some reach however, and influenced others, especially indie creators who weren't invited on my show, and created a scapegoat in WC.

Two things happened at once. First, those "influencers" roped in Edwin, who is highly emotional. He joined Mike Miller, who was in the middle of a problem with Ro Kabir, (Mike went off about Muslims vs. Christians or some such thing) and Ro ripped into Mike on a livestream, accusing him of the financial mishandling of his campaigns and several other things. Mike was nursing a grudge over that, and I was aware of it.

Mike and Edwin both came to me in private, having seen evidence that WC were doxxing people and subjecting them to weird "tribunals", and I needed to join them in denouncing them. I asked to see the evidence, and they both refused to show it to me. "You just gotta trust us, brother. We'd trust you."

That's when the first livestream happened, when I told everyone in general, equally, to knock it off.

Then the guy who provided Mike and Edwin with the evidence came to me, and revealed most of what they had: "Praetorian", who was a big part of WC last year, but had kind of faded away, let me know that he was feeling terrible guilt about what he'd done, so he was flipping on WC. He apologized to me, and revealed that he was personally responsible for almost every confusing bit of bullshit that happened to ComicsGate last year, including obsessively stalking Sashi, and creating the "ComicsGate Anon" account that warned me that Nerkish was going to be doxxed.

"Praetorian", who is Jewish, was furious that Nerkish's Discord was filled with edgelord Holocaust memes. And he had some kind of problem with Sashi and others who were regulars on my livestreams. I still don't know why.

Praetorian's screenshares of private messages between him and his buddies utterly incriminated him.

His screenshares were cut off in convenient places...one of the guys talking about how he wanted to dox "Rumble Terrier" was cut right before Ro Kabir told him they don't dox, that's not our thing, we're not criminals, etc

I haven't heard Edwin's "tribunal" recording yet, and I'd be anxious to hear it. If it shed light on more individuals behaving poorly, I'd expose them.

But everyone involved has an agenda of their own, and I really don't want to get into a position where I have to play Judge Wapner to a bunch of nerds with memes on the internet.

The idea that I'm either "100% Okay With What They're Doing" or that I'm "To Some Extent Directing Them" is fucking stupid.

When I can see what they're doing, (public activity) I'm often okay with it when it involves funny memes that make fun of pros and public figures in and outside of ComicsGate.

If I were directing them to any extent, you'd have seen it by now. This garbage eventually leaks, and evidence of me directing War Campaign would be the ComicsGate equivalent of Russian Collusion. People would literally pay to see it.

I've "directed" them on two occasions that I can recall: 1. Leave Sashi alone, please. 2. Leave Popefire alone, please. Both to Ro Kabir, who acted flummoxed. No wonder, it was Praetorian that was doing it.

So...fuck it. I'm always open to EVIDENCE. And I'll need that before I condemn a regular customer of mine, which is where Praetorian finds himself now.

Show the evidence. Everyone is pretty tired of you asserting shit with zero evidence. You did the same to Nasser and he came with his own proof. Oh and this whole Doug is platforming Adam shit. He had him on his show one time, most likely because he felt bad because Adam is a low functioning Autist who was being "bullied" in one of his threads. A pity platform, you know, how you see everyone you platform on your channel. You're always open to evidence but never give any yourself. Pretty fucking convenient.

 

[northstar747]

Is comics gate over yet? or does that happen when someone pulls a sargon and plays with a tranny

 

[Teignmouth Electron]

Is comics gate over yet? or does that happen when someone pulls a sargon and plays with a tranny

Depends on your definition, but by all reasonable standards #comicsgate is dead. Indie comics aren't going anywhere, but if the point was to change the status quo at the Big 2 or to set up a viable competitor, it ain't gonna happen.

Probably a tranny will become involved at some point, though.