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Publisher's weekly still says the dip in sales is due to the lack of minority representation.

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Comics Retailers Hope To Rebound in 2018

Bad weather, political discord, and a changing market all contributed to a decline in sales last year—especially at comics shops.
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GranDuke said:
Not sure if I understand you correctly. If there are less comic book shops then there are less total orders so average number of issues ordered per title would shrink as well.
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Maybe I'm reading the chart wrong, but I'm interpreting it as saying "average retailer order per title" in the sense that if you have Comic Shop A, B and C ordering 12, 10 and 4 copies respectively you get an average of 8.67. Comic shop C closes, you get an average of 11, or an increase in average order of 21%, rounded, ceterus paribus.

But you have an absolute decline in units shipped of 4, or 15%-ish of your previous total. And obviously two shops instead of three for all future orders.

Possibly I'm just being an autistic caffeine deprived sperg ATM, but that's what I was thinking.
 
GranDuke said:
Not sure if I understand you correctly. If there are less comic book shops then there are less total orders so average number of issues ordered per title would shrink as well.
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Less stores do not necessarily mean less orders.
1 store closes? The other 1-20 stores in the area absorb the closed-store’s customers. Or a mail order service does. Ex: If a now-closed store has 100 regular customers & theres 5 stores remaining in the area, each store now jumps their orders to accommodate the average 20 new customers they just picked up. The remaining 5 stores do NOT necessarily increase the number of shelf copies they were buying for any book tho.

So the average order per-store increases but the total sales decrease since the shelf-copies of the now-closed store are no longer ordered.
 
Elwood P. Dowd said:
Maybe I'm reading the chart wrong, but I'm interpreting it as saying "average retailer order per title" in the sense that if you have Comic Shop A, B and C ordering 12, 10 and 4 copies respectively you get an average of 8.67. Comic shop C closes, you get an average of 11, or an increase in average order of 21%, rounded, ceterus paribus.

But you have an absolute decline in units shipped of 4, or 15%-ish of your previous total. And obviously two shops instead of three for all future orders.
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I might be wrong as well, but I think that the idea is to take total amount of copies sold and divide it by total amount of different titles published that month. So while they are selling less overall they are also cutting low selling titles which causes average to slightly increase.

As for other stores absorbing clients, sure, but I doubt that it is 1:1 conversion, some people probably just stop buying entirely when their local shop goes tits up.
 
The Doktor said:
Less stores do not necessarily mean less orders.
1 store closes? The other 1-20 stores in the area absorb the closed-store’s customers.
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If that store had enough to stay in business, it wouldn't be going out of business in the first place. They can only cannibalize closed stores so long and it more or less requires more of the survivors go out of business just to keep the dwindling number of survivors alive.
 
AnOminous said:
If that store had enough to stay in business, it wouldn't be going out of business in the first place. They can only cannibalize closed stores so long and it more or less requires more of the survivors go out of business just to keep the dwindling number of survivors alive.
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Add to that that not all of that store's customer will migrate to another, some just stop buying locally or stop buying period.
 
GranDuke said:
It is so well documented that we have to quote him when he is joking. Here I'll quote him when he is seriously talking about his work:



I don't think that if he hated Superman he would have said these things about him or that he would have wanted to work on Superman in 1985.
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Where does that quote come from?
 
(Zack’s 1st video was taken down, I saw it and I think the reason was how badly OBS recorded it, kept pixelating and switching screens)
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MechaRandom42's video:

"OMG I LUV GOOSE!!!1!"

It's amazing how often I feel like this reaction img whenever Marvel shits out these videos:
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Here's Ya Boi's take on it, which is pretty funny because

he does his, like, fake geek girl voice? Ohmigod, I, like, love FunkoPop. And then the host in the video pretty much says the exact same thing.
 
I have basically zero interest in comic books as an entertainment medium yet still find My Boi Zack extremely entertaining to listen to as background while driving or doing manual tasks like folding laundry.

It's fascinating that his taste in television and movies is so consistently bad, though. You can almost use his film and TV reviews like an anti-critic, safe in the assurance that anything he endorses is bound to be terrible.
 

2:30-3:50 Ya Zoi talked about the lawsuit. He says, and NOT in jest, that the suit will probably last until 2020 and will need a second round of fundraising at the end of the year. Poor Zack.

(will cross-post in the lawsuit thread)
 
Prompt Critical said:
I have basically zero interest in comic books as an entertainment medium yet still find My Boi Zack extremely entertaining to listen to as background while driving or doing manual tasks like folding laundry.

It's fascinating that his taste in television and movies is so consistently bad, though. You can almost use his film and TV reviews like an anti-critic, safe in the assurance that anything he endorses is bound to be terrible.
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In what way?
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
In what way?
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In addition to the above, last year he took a huge amount of flak for putting up an extremely positive review of The Last Jedi - to the extent that he permanently stopped doing TV/movie reviews on his main channel out of fear of losing subscribers, and moved them to the Splatto spinoff. He also liked and recommended Solo.
 
Prompt Critical said:
I have basically zero interest in comic books as an entertainment medium yet still find My Boi Zack extremely entertaining to listen to as background while driving or doing manual tasks like folding laundry.

It's fascinating that his taste in television and movies is so consistently bad, though. You can almost use his film and TV reviews like an anti-critic, safe in the assurance that anything he endorses is bound to be terrible.
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I don't think I've ever enjoyed someone's content and yet be so adverse to their movie/tv preferences at this level. I'm usually more in tune with the people I watch if just by pure happenstance. That takes skill, Zack.
 
AnOminous said:
If that store had enough to stay in business, it wouldn't be going out of business in the first place. They can only cannibalize closed stores so long and it more or less requires more of the survivors go out of business just to keep the dwindling number of survivors alive.
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That's not what I said at all. It OBVIOUSLY didn't have enough to stay in business. But the others that are NOT going out of business obviously DO have enough to stay in business or else they would also be going out of business.

Let's take another example: Store A needs 100 regulars to stay in business. It has 75. It goes out of business. Stores B-F in the area that DO have enough regulars to stay in business will absorb these 75 & it will increase their total number of regulars. That can cause the average number of books the stores order to increase per-store while also decreasing the total number of books sold to all stores.
 
The Doktor said:
That's not what I said at all. It OBVIOUSLY didn't have enough to stay in business. But the others that are NOT going out of business obviously DO have enough to stay in business or else they would also be going out of business.
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Not necessarily. They could be steadily losing money and just not have lost enough yet to be completely bankrupt.
 
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