#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Water-T]

This will surely get Meyer to sleep with her now!

 

[SiccDicc]

Unless youre renfamous, then you continue tweeting about the Dear Leader all day.

Speaking of ren she seems to be quite taken with Ironsights.
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It's so nice of her to be supporting her favorite comic.

 

[El Jagre]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vOz9K1HXCY Rekieta's streaming, he's got Malin, EVS, Chevron and Eglandtine and they're all fighting.

 

[Least Concern]

Rekieta's stream is live.

Englentine's issue seems to be that EVS and other creators have turned CG from critics complaining about crap in modern comics to IGG campaigns and constant shilling. He also disagrees with the gatekeeping with regards to Day and Nerkish. EVS is taking great exception to this and losing his shit a little. So far Rekieta seems to be fair with trying to give everyone time to talk and such. Malin is there too, on EVS's side. I'm not sure what UnrankedChevron's position is so far.

Edit: :late:, sorry. Also, EVS just called Englentine an asshole.

Edit 2: EVS is defending criticizing Nerkish's Discord because "people's livelihoods are at stake here" or something like that. Chevron asks how he can say that while also going on the Killstream and the like. Malin is swearing like a sailor.

 

[Gene Starwind]

EVS is such a hypocritical SJW faggot. So Nerkish is "putting lives at stake" by having some Jew jokes in a discord, but it's cool for him to shill on the Killstream?

 

[Rebis]

“People’s livelihoods are at stake”
Wasn’t the whole point of Comicsgate originally that the SJWs should lose their jobs in the comics industry?

 

[ᴍᴀᴅᴜᴋᴇ]

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN KIIIIID!!

Ethan is getting smoked like a big Christmas ham on that stream.

 

[RockVolnutt]

“People’s livelihoods are at stake”
Wasn’t the whole point of Comicsgate originally that the SJWs should lose their jobs in the comics industry?

Was it? I don't think anyone cares about their politics more than they can't do their jobs without spilling their spaghetti about internet nazis and Drumpf. People changed around on people like Chip Zdarsky once they showed competency.

 

[AnOminous]

“People’s livelihoods are at stake”
Wasn’t the whole point of Comicsgate originally that the SJWs should lose their jobs in the comics industry?

So far as I can tell, it was just to be able to say shit was shit. Why would that result in anyone losing their jobs unless it were true and resulted in people not buying them, which they have no obligation whatsoever to do?

 

[Love Soze]

It was never really about people losing their jobs. Even if SJW Marvel creators wrote good books, Comicsgaters would MoveTheNeedle with them.

 

[damian]

“People’s livelihoods are at stake”
Wasn’t the whole point of Comicsgate originally that the SJWs should lose their jobs in the comics industry?

So far as I can tell, it was just to be able to say shit was shit. Why would that result in anyone losing their jobs unless it were true and resulted in people not buying them, which they have no obligation whatsoever to do?

He's speaking for the creators involved in CG, they're already black listed so it would affect their livelihoods if some speds also get them banned from platforms like Youtube, IGG and so on.

Edit: to clarify, I’m explaining EVS’s position.

 

[AnOminous]

He's speaking for the creators involved in CG, they're already black listed so it would affect their livelihoods if some speds also get them banned from platforms like Youtube, IGG and so on.

I'm not seeing how whatever Nerkish is doing even has any effect, and if it did, wouldn't going on an actually banned thing like the Killstream be even worse? And EVS is doing that completely willingly. This sounds more like ego bullshit to me.

 

[Done]

I'm not seeing how whatever Nerkish is doing even has any effect, and if it did, wouldn't going on an actually banned thing like the Killstream be even worse? And EVS is doing that completely willingly. This sounds more like ego bullshit to me.

This. It's clearly a purely personal disagreement that EVS is trying to sell as a overall "movement issue".

This movement is imploding, and fast.

 

[Love Soze]

Rekieta said that "Jim" who called Nancy was outed. Anyone know anything about that?

 

[RockVolnutt]

Eh, I think the real meat of the "movement" right now is just the Waid lawsuit and the resulting fallout. EVS, Nerkish, Englentine, and whoever else wants to join them can do a flip and it wouldn't matter. If EVS somehow stumbles into a better model in the mean time than that's great (though very unlikely) but as of now, no one cares.

 

[The Doktor]

Ethan lost me tonight. He fell into the same “dismissive of critics” pro mode that the mainstream industry does. And wildly hypocritical regarding what he admitted doing involving himself in Nerkish’s biz but having a hands-off approach with the war campaign.

 

[damian]

Told ya it was gonna be a disaster:

its going to be a disaster.

 

[AnOminous]

So douche who couldn't get along with his colleagues is now unable to get along with new colleagues. Not exactly a shocker.

 

[ᴍᴀᴅᴜᴋᴇ]

Ethan lost me tonight. He fell into the same “dismissive of critics” pro mode that the mainstream industry does. And wildly hypocritical regarding what he admitted doing involving himself in Nerkish’s biz but having a hands-off approach with the war campaign.

He still refuses to disavow Rob Kabal C'mon's #WarCampaign little group of dorks on the autism spectrum? That superchat money must be too sweet to pass up then.

 

[AJ 447]

@ 2:32:25 Ethan tells Cecil (about Nerkish) " He's mad at me right now and he's taking it out on you"
@ 2:34:15 Ethan explains about his rift with Nerkish over the server. Interestingly enough Ethan states that if he goes down it will mark the end for Comicsgate (around 2:37:00), but if one cares to look it cynically and read between the lines it sounds like he's saying it's the end of his cash cow.
My main bother with all this is people talking as if Nerkish is this asshole who's trying to impose himself (and his Discord server) on Ethan, and not wanting to see that Ethan's demonizing him in a low-key way basically saying "if Nerkish wasn't such an asshole he'd betray his beliefs so I can continue to do business cause I'm cool Uncle Ethan"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjaGv-XI6ws&t=2:35:58&“#t=2:35:15

I meant that there may have been an argument about that discord server, but ultimately Cash Grab getting canceled doesnt come down to Ethan, it comes down to Lim and Nerkish deciding to pull the trigger and end it.