#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!
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List of creators/industry people supporting Mark Waid's legal fund.
I'll be updating this periodically. Also:
Make sure you don't call anyone a cum dumpster though!
Also also:
You could've just cut Zack a check, Tim.
Marc Guggenheim
Dan Slott
Neil Gaiman
Shawn Kirkham
Geoffrey Thorne
James Tynion IV
Al Ewing
Kelly Thompson
Gerry Duggan
Joyce Chin
Nathan Fairbairn
Dean Haspiel
Jordan Plosky
Hart Seely
Chris Ryall
William Geradts
Kristen Simon
Tony Isabella
Simon Fraser
Mitch Hallock
Jim Zub
Matt Parkinson
Jeff Lemire
Gerry Conway
Dave Olbrich
Joe Henderson
David Macho
Jamal Igle
George O'Connor
Tom Stillwell
Eric Trautmann
John Layman
Eric Mengel
Doselle Young
Peter Gross
Matthew Rosenberg
Steve Lieber
Matthew Southworth
David Nakayama
Clayton Cowles
Reilly Brown
Joe Keatinge
Mags Visaggio
Peter Tomasi (this one hurts lol)
Chuck Huber
Mike Wellman
Yanick Paquette
Kurt Busiek
John Chambers
Brian Hurtt
Dan McDaid
Marc Lombardi
Kevin Mellon
Matt Forbeck
Eric Palicki
Morgan Pielli
Mark Reznicek
Tim Seeley
Mark Stegbauer
Ryan Higgins
Diana Davis
Slewo Oshana
Sean Leonard
Patrick Mohlmann
Leighton Connor
Hugh Haynes
Mike Poirier
Brian Frey
David Slack
Arthur Wyatt
David Willis
Rosi Kämpe
Isaac Goodhart
Glenn Hauman
Drake McHorter
Jorge Santiago, Jr.
Nate Lovett
Robert Duenas
Ian Brill
Joel Bartlett
Aaron Anderson
Darwin McPherson
Roger Langridge
Paul Cornell
Mark Buckingham
Jan Dinter
Pere Perez
Barry Deutsch
Jonah Weiland
Bruno Batista
Dan Slott
Neil Gaiman
Shawn Kirkham
Geoffrey Thorne
James Tynion IV
Al Ewing
Kelly Thompson
Gerry Duggan
Joyce Chin
Nathan Fairbairn
Dean Haspiel
Jordan Plosky
Hart Seely
Chris Ryall
William Geradts
Kristen Simon
Tony Isabella
Simon Fraser
Mitch Hallock
Jim Zub
Matt Parkinson
Jeff Lemire
Gerry Conway
Dave Olbrich
Joe Henderson
David Macho
Jamal Igle
George O'Connor
Tom Stillwell
Eric Trautmann
John Layman
Eric Mengel
Doselle Young
Peter Gross
Matthew Rosenberg
Steve Lieber
Matthew Southworth
David Nakayama
Clayton Cowles
Reilly Brown
Joe Keatinge
Mags Visaggio
Peter Tomasi (this one hurts lol)
Chuck Huber
Mike Wellman
Yanick Paquette
Kurt Busiek
John Chambers
Brian Hurtt
Dan McDaid
Marc Lombardi
Kevin Mellon
Matt Forbeck
Eric Palicki
Morgan Pielli
Mark Reznicek
Tim Seeley
Mark Stegbauer
Ryan Higgins
Diana Davis
Slewo Oshana
Sean Leonard
Patrick Mohlmann
Leighton Connor
Hugh Haynes
Mike Poirier
Brian Frey
David Slack
Arthur Wyatt
David Willis
Rosi Kämpe
Isaac Goodhart
Glenn Hauman
Drake McHorter
Jorge Santiago, Jr.
Nate Lovett
Robert Duenas
Ian Brill
Joel Bartlett
Aaron Anderson
Darwin McPherson
Roger Langridge
Paul Cornell
Mark Buckingham
Jan Dinter
Pere Perez
Barry Deutsch
Jonah Weiland
Bruno Batista
Make sure you don't call anyone a cum dumpster though!
Also also:
You could've just cut Zack a check, Tim.
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Maybe a list of loudmouths too? AKA Renfamous or Dusty
Behold he has risen from the ashes, like the Phoenix
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There is no need to pay attention to mediocre cosplayers like Lauren.
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The biggest problem with Civil War, to me, was that none of the heroes came off as someone you'd want to root for. Captain America was the most sympathetic but was still dragging these super brawls into public places, Reed Richards and Tony Stark were outright doing supervillain shit, Spidey felt like an idiot for just blindly agreeing with everything Tony did (to a point), the New Warriors started this shit by deciding to brawl with supervillains in a suburb, and even the supposed neutral parties like the X-Men or Ben Grimm opted to sit on their ass and do nothing rather than trying to mitigate the collateral damage.
In short, it was a superhero story with no heroes. Just a flat mess of a story but, hey, it gets lauded for being so "realistic" and "subversive" or whatever.
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My understanding of Civil War - and, for that matter, most of the Marvel crossovers for the last ten/fifteen years - is that there's been a good idea in there, a 'what if?' that's worth exploring, but that it's been executed at best with glaring flaws, and at worst with a distinct inability to tell the story of the dilemma they're trying to illustrate.
I'm kind of curious how the one where all the worlds merged went, though, because I didn't get an accurate sense of what it was actually like, just some vague positivity about characters the reviewer liked getting into 616 continuity.
I'm kind of curious how the one where all the worlds merged went, though, because I didn't get an accurate sense of what it was actually like, just some vague positivity about characters the reviewer liked getting into 616 continuity.
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It says a lot about Kevin Feige that he produced great movies out of terrible comic material.
I'm glad there was no Sally Floyd in Civil War
I'm glad there was no Sally Floyd in Civil War
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It’s very embarrassing seeing Mark Waid, a millionaire, beg for money and get small donations from the SJW comics “pros”. $50 from Vissagio, $300 from Tim “I run my own business and own my house” Doyle, $50 from an unemployed stay at home cosplayer.
I can’t wait to see all that money going to Meyer
I can’t wait to see all that money going to Meyer
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Maybe I'm retarded, but doesn't this kind of prove Meyer's point that there's a big group of gatekeepers in the comics industry and they all try to keep him out? Doesn't this help Meyer's case?
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Kinda. It does help the defamation claim, don't think he'll win it tho.
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Marvel is addicted to the ever-diminishing returns of these megacrossovers and each of them are trying so hard to be "the one that changes everything" like Crisis of the Infinite Earths did. However, Marvel is either afraid to or unwilling to address the real issues plaguing their universe and there's no long-term, singular vision for what the direction will be after the event.
That universe-merging event is arguably the most consequential one they've done in years but it's kind of only made things worse. You now have more unfamiliar faces being pushed over the classics people actually care about, more heroes floating in limbo because there's a dozen others out there that are virtually interchangeable with them, and even more series being ran with no merit. As much as I hate bloodbath events and dread such things out of Marvel in particular because they are more likely to do something stupid like kill off Steve Rogers instead of someone like America Chavez, but the universe is so bloated right now that it needs a good mass purge (which I thought would happen with Doom but nope). Go back to the very basics, try and right yourself from the death spiral you've put yourself in, and tell some superhero adventure stories rather than these weird life dramas with superheroes in them.
My apologies. I've kind of been thinking about this for awhile. Like, the characters from Marvel have never been hotter so for them to be struggling to get 10k on an Avengers book is a whole new level of incompetence.
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Guys, guys, guys. That stuff in This Is Spinal Tap about your audience becoming "more selective" was a satire.
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Marvel would probably do better if they did the graphic novel approach and just condensed the group into about 7-10 books like the last time a crunch happened. They won't do it though since they only care about shipping, not about copies sold.
And I don't support Igle's work because he almost never finishes it. Where's Molly Danger that you promised six years ago you fucking conman?!
And I don't support Igle's work because he almost never finishes it. Where's Molly Danger that you promised six years ago you fucking conman?!
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Which one?
Crisis On Infinite Earths didn't even do that, because it eventually, through more DC Comics crisis crossovers, all came back in some form or another.
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You fuckers know this discussion goes in the comics sperging thread.
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Getting back on topic...
Because I hate myself and want to suffer, I have read the comments on CBR and Newsarama's to see what the chattering SJWs have to say. Most of them are acting like Comicsgate is putting Mark Waid on trail and ignoring the fact that this a civil suit and not a criminal trial. This applies to the creators backing this as they repeat the same NPC lines ad infinitum. A judge is not going to give flying fuck about their talking points and will stick to the evidence, of which Meyer has a case. Even if Meyer loses, it will not change the underlying issues that started Comicsgate in the first place and the hemorrhaging of the established readership, especially the whales, will continue.
What they fail to comprehend time and again, is that they are not entitled to our money. We are not obligated to buy an inferior product because it is a beloved franchise. More to the point, they do NOT get to choose their audience. Their audience chooses them. If we the audience doesn't like what they are selling, we can choose to take our dollars elsewhere or create our own entertainment. All these accusations of bigotry are the dying gasp of an industry that has been in terminal decline since the speculator bubble popped in the nineties. Go ahead. Call us names! We're not coming back if man-babies like Waid going to throw tantrums.
It's quite disheartening, really. I really wanted to be in the comics industry when I was a teenager, but now I want nothing to do with these people.
Because I hate myself and want to suffer, I have read the comments on CBR and Newsarama's to see what the chattering SJWs have to say. Most of them are acting like Comicsgate is putting Mark Waid on trail and ignoring the fact that this a civil suit and not a criminal trial. This applies to the creators backing this as they repeat the same NPC lines ad infinitum. A judge is not going to give flying fuck about their talking points and will stick to the evidence, of which Meyer has a case. Even if Meyer loses, it will not change the underlying issues that started Comicsgate in the first place and the hemorrhaging of the established readership, especially the whales, will continue.
What they fail to comprehend time and again, is that they are not entitled to our money. We are not obligated to buy an inferior product because it is a beloved franchise. More to the point, they do NOT get to choose their audience. Their audience chooses them. If we the audience doesn't like what they are selling, we can choose to take our dollars elsewhere or create our own entertainment. All these accusations of bigotry are the dying gasp of an industry that has been in terminal decline since the speculator bubble popped in the nineties. Go ahead. Call us names! We're not coming back if man-babies like Waid going to throw tantrums.
It's quite disheartening, really. I really wanted to be in the comics industry when I was a teenager, but now I want nothing to do with these people.
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And all of this support coming in such a short amount of time? This reeks of something similar to the GameJournosPro private list where they'd all collude to stay on message and the appropriate tactics to deal with dissenters.
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Who the fuck even is this twat? Judging from his wikipedia fluff-piece it seems like he's a fill-in artist that's never really done much of anything.