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First time seeing someone coming at Bendis for his black characters in an article

I’m getting sick and tired of these companies swearing up and down that they really want to promote diversity before putting yet another white male writer on a book with a character of color as the focus.

I can only imagine that his take on Riri will also lack nuance and understanding of what it means to be a Black woman in a world dominated by white male heroes and villains.

And that’s messed up considering how he’s being tapped to write these Black legacy characters when he has no actual idea of what it means to be Black in America.

I’m annoyed at how Bendis keeps being handed opportunities to write young black people in comics when he has exhibited (via Miles) that he has no experience with or understanding Blackness in its many forms.
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https://stitchmediamix.com/2016/07/06/the-reality-of-bendis-writing-blackness/
 
Iwasamwillbe said:
What exactly do you mean by this?
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His writing style is a massive meme for years now. He thinks it sounds more natural to have characters repeat themselves back and forth in mini-sentences ending with a quip. He's sorta like the Joss Whedon of comics IMO.
"Hey, you ever read Bendis?"
"Bendis? Like Brain Michael Bendis?"
"Yeah, he writes comic books"
"Comic books? They still make those?"
"Sure, they make all kinds of comics. Bendis though, his dialogue is very..."
"What's wrong with his dialogue?"
"Well you see he likes having people sit around and talk as they eat"
"Like us? What's wrong with that?"
"Yes, like us but they don't do anything. They're talking heads"
"Talking heads?"
"Yeah, talking heads"
"Heh, we get those on TV"
"Just like TV"
"So what's the problem with talking heads?"
"They don't do anything for 20 pages and books cost 5 bucks a pop."
"Oy Vey, people reading comics must be schmucks."
"Ugh"
"So what's this about comic books?...."

Think that kind of fluff but pages at a time. You might get like 3 of those pages dedicated to action.

Edit: In general he's better suited to smaller scale stuff with a cast like Ultimate Spider-Man than big action/adventure stories. If we need a guy for a coffee shop AU, he'd totally be your guy but he drops the ball when writing end of the world or space stuff.
 
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RockVolnutt said:
"Hey, you ever read Bendis?"
"Bendis? Like Brain Michael Bendis?"
"Yeah, he writes comic books"
"Comic books? They still make those?"
"Sure, they make all kinds of comics. Bendis though, his dialogue is very..."
"What's wrong with his dialogue?"
"Well you see he likes having people sit around and talk as they eat"
"Like us? What's wrong with that?"
"Yes, like us but they don't do anything. They're talking heads"
"Talking heads?"
"Yeah, talking heads"
"Heh, we get those on TV"
"Just like TV"
"So what's the problem with talking heads?"
"They don't do anything for 20 pages and books cost 5 bucks a pop."
"Oy Vey, people reading comics must be schmucks."
"Ugh"
"So what's this about comic books?...."
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reported for brain damage
 
RockVolnutt said:
His writing style is a massive meme for years now. He thinks it sounds more natural to have characters repeat themselves back and forth in mini-sentences ending with a quip. He's sorta like the Joss Whedon of comics IMO.
"Hey, you ever read Bendis?"
"Bendis? Like Brain Michael Bendis?"
"Yeah, he writes comic books"
"Comic books? They still make those?"
"Sure, they make all kinds of comics. Bendis though, his dialogue is very..."
"What's wrong with his dialogue?"
"Well you see he likes having people sit around and talk as they eat"
"Like us? What's wrong with that?"
"Yes, like us but they don't do anything. They're talking heads"
"Talking heads?"
"Yeah, talking heads"
"Heh, we get those on TV"
"Just like TV"
"So what's the problem with talking heads?"
"They don't do anything for 20 pages and books cost 5 bucks a pop."
"Oy Vey, people reading comics must be schmucks."
"Ugh"
"So what's this about comic books?...."

Think that kind of fluff but pages at a time. You might get like 3 of those pages dedicated to action.

Edit: In general he's better suited to smaller scale stuff with a cast like Ultimate Spider-Man than big action/adventure stories. If we need a guy for a coffee shop AU, he'd totally be your guy but he drops the ball when writing end of the world or space stuff.
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This is literally what he writes like, and the problem is that you see a lot of "younger" writers emulating him. So you now have this pervasive writing style permeating comics and it needs to stop.
 
Liquid Cool said:
This is literally what he writes like, and the problem is that you see a lot of "younger" writers emulating him. So you now have this pervasive writing style permeating comics and it needs to stop.
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It wouldn't be that awful if you were a weekly in an anthology like Japan where the language is all dodgy about "that" "yes that" "that is..." "regrettable but..." "truly that is..." "feeling" , but for a monthly title yeah naw fuck that.
 
Iwasamwillbe said:
What exactly do you mean by this?
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You've never read any Bendis have you? Yeah he is not much on action. He tries to do dialog like some sort of half assed Quentin Tarrantino, but all he succeeds is having his characters standing around for pages and pages talking in short single lines back and forth, that mean nothing, say nothing and just infuriate the reader. That above quoted block of "Bendis Like dialog", yeah that would be most of the book for the climax of an Avengers Arc. It would be Wolverine Talking to Spider-Man... for 7 pages. No villains in site. The characters only seen in left right profile flipping back and forth panel to panel, and completely obscured by said dialog boxes that say nothing. If Bendis was writing Fantastic Four, that would be the conversation between Reed Richards and Galactus. If Doomsday shows up during Bendis's Superman run he and Supes will be sitting in a diner for 12 pages eating waffles.
 
RodgerDodger said:
If Doomsday shows up during Bendis's Superman run he and Supes will be sitting in a diner for 12 pages eating waffles.
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I just want to clarify that this isn't any kind of hyperbole. From one of Zack's streams:

EDIT: I don't think this is literally by Bendis, but this kind of nonsense is everywhere now.
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RockVolnutt said:
He thinks it sounds more natural to have characters repeat themselves back and forth in mini-sentences ending with a quip.
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[TV writing sperg incoming]
Sounds like the worst parts of David E. Kelley's writing, when his TV characters would have a conversation filled with repetition, then one would go on to another character and repeat most of that conversation and only add a little bit at the end, and so on.
I'd compare it to Aaron Sorkin as well, but his worst writing is a much more bombastic, speechifying style, and his quick conversational bits are usually some of his best.
[/TV writing sperg]
 
Next Task said:
Sounds like the worst parts of David E. Kelley's writing, when his TV characters would have a conversation filled with repetition, then one would go on to another character and repeat most of that conversation and only add a little bit at the end, and so on.
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A major difference is if a TV show has some rapid-fire conversation that doesn't have much content in it, there could be a dozen other things going on in the scene, from people walking through different settings to something plot-relevant happening in the background. If you have this bullshit in a monthly comic book, you've just spent $8 for shitty dialogue and nothing at all happening. If half a comic book is going to be talk, that had best be some Mamet-tier shit.
 
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Heather Antos wants back into the Kewl Komics Klub, looks like that e-sports betting website wasn't her dream job after all
 
Jub-Jub said:
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Heather Antos wants back into the Kewl Komics Klub, looks like that e-sports betting website wasn't her dream job after all
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What a long winded way of saying "I miss getting loads of asspats on social media from people who don't even buy the books I was responsible for editing but didn't even know their release dates".

RockVolnutt said:
Eh, if they did they'd be arguing any black characters he creates should be handed over to a black writer for a "more authentic experience" which doesn't really fix the problems but they'll say critics of their solution are contradicting themselves.
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The only time I remember something like this ever working out was Richard Pryor being a co-writer on Blazing Saddles...so he can write the white peoples' dialogue (including coming up with Mongo).
 
I'm going to be harsh for a second:

There is nothing stopping Heather Antos from "creating" stories on Indiegogo except her complete lack of talent derived from her exceptional laziness. She's not a writer. She's not an artist. She's a "creator" in the sense that she told genuinely talented people what to write and draw and they wrote and drew it for her. Writing is the lowest rung of the creative ladder in comic books because the skill floor is so low you could literally hire people based on their fucking haircut (as Marvel has proved). Heather is so lazy and stupid she can't even ascend that bottom fucking rung.

Everybody is creative. Everybody. There are children smashing action figures together right now coming up with more creative and compelling stories than Bendis has in the last 20 years of his career. Creativity is so common--so human--that its essentially worthless as a commodity. The difference between Heather and the people working in comics is that the people working in comics were able to develop talents that they use to turn their creative impulses into marketable products. That's the critical distinction between a tradesman or a professional and a fucking amateur. Any asshole can sit and daydream and tell stories, but can you, the wannabe professional, turn that into a product that people want to buy?

Considering that all of Antos's books were cancelled due to low sales, the answer is a resounding "no."
 
I know in these windswept days of culture-warring this might be an unpopular view but I think we should just let these people have the comic book industry, since it sucks ass and has done so for several decades at this point. The more the culture-vultures suck the soul out of these nerd realms (comic books, video games, cinema etc) the more desperate people will become for actually good stuff and the independent/alternative industry will gain more traction.

It's cynical I know but I just can't help but shrug that Spider-Man number 68063369063458995589569957 is being ruined by pink-haired spastics and soycuck dad-hipsters.
 
Cistern Rumbler said:
The more the culture-vultures suck the soul out of these nerd realms (comic books, video games, cinema etc) the more desperate people will become for actually good stuff and the independent/alternative industry will gain more traction.
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Except that they've demonstrated that they're willing to tortiously interfere with new artists who are trying to get off the ground, and even collude among each other to keep their books off the shelves if they dare to refuse to sing from the same hymnal.
 
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