#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Peace and Harmony]

But I gotta give this warning in advance: Zack's videos are kinda boring at best and quantifiable as sleep aids at worst. He seems a decent enough sort, soft-spoken and usually pretty clever, but he takes forever to get to a point and meanders constantly. If you're willing to soldier past this he makes good points, can even be somewhat enjoyable, and is usually fairly straightforward with his findings, but good god does this provide a stumbling block to the uninitiated, and I cannot blame fucking anyone for wandering off if their first exposure is D&C.

Nah I think they're actually quite good, although I come from a tradition of watching really fucking long and rambling videos on YouTube anyway. With regards to Zack's videos specifically, one thing I find is that he somehow seems to stumble upon very deep points that go quite far beyond comics, and he's always so tight-lipped about whether he watches anyone else on YouTube other than comedy channels like H3H3 or Chris Ray Gun. Whether intentionally or unintentionally, he does somehow seem to be able to connect himself to the bigger ideas that are swirling around in more influential circles about the effect that the "progressive" left is having on society as a whole, etc. (Also I don't mean to oversell it, I'm also aware that this nigga is filming comic books with a towel over his crotch.)

As for "first exposure" people, I actually find it valuable that he takes a few minutes to play catchup because I don't watch all of his videos religiously or in order. Well maybe I'm just a hyper autistic sperg who enjoys it when people lead me gently into perdition.

 

[damian]

Did this nigga just tag 16 people with that? srsly?

He came into a thread about a counter article for the Daily Dot article and started spazzing out because they used the picture of the author as a thumbnail:

Holy fuck, Nick Rekieta, the guy who made the legal analysis video of the situation, has been arguing with that idiot Jamal Igle on twitter all day
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LOL Igle ended up blocking him. I wish I could show the whole thing, but the replies are all over the place in this thread. I recommend just scrolling through Rekieta's twitter to experience all the :autism:: https://twitter.com/NickRekieta/with_replies

There’s nothing more entertaining than seeing a lawyer dealing with a sperg who thinks they know law better than a lawyer because they make funny books. Even if it’s not his area of expertise (like he’s mentioned) Rekieta is infinitely better informed.

With a name like "Diversity and Comics is a deadbeat dad in transition", it would no doubt be the account of someone or a group of people who are very salty that they can no doubt have pants-shitting rage. A name like that really gives one that there's an individual with a very rusty axe to grind.


Yes, :autism: has no bounds whatsoever. Looking at what this guy says, it's all autistic screeching and admitting he's angry in bashing D&C unlike the "hypocrites" who gaslight. Beyond angry screeching and some terms like gaslight, it's funny to see angry tism.

This guy has multiple accounts with the sole purpose of being mad on the internet about anything tied to Zack. Here are the ones that I suspect are runned by the same guy:
This one uses YouTube comments to prove D&C fans are harassers (somehow).
This one just tries to find shitty things about D&C fans using the MoveTheNeedle #.

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Relevant.

Speaking of Mark Waid is Evil, this is an actual promotional photo of his Irredeemable comic:

 

[AnOminous]

How shocking, another fucking troon. I certainly didn't expect that.

 

[Emperor Julian]

So what are the odds that diversity and comics is a deadbeat is an actual employee of marvel or such and how much shit is he going to be in once he's inevitably rumbled if so?

I would have said it's unlikely to be Mark himself but the way things have exceeded my expectation at every stage I'm hoping it's him and he's developed some sort of mental block which means he isnt aware he's doing it.

 

[TenMilesWide]

...launch a crunchyroll style subscription service for people to be able to read shit on their mobiles and tablets...

Don't they already have that? Marvel Unlimited? It's a decent service, $10 a month for access to the archives, and very good scans of them at that.

They just need to stick some ads for it into the movies, somewhere during the credits or something, maybe do some tie-in stuff or point to related storylines for the movie that's currently in theaters, they'd make bank.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I think Zack is a tard and don't agree with him on most things but even I think stopping him from publishing a fucking comic is pretty insane.

Mark Waid and his troon friends act like fascist and I lost all respect for Marvel. It's a fucking joke of a company full of wannabe victims. Sjw ideology destroys everything it touches and ruins everyone who gets in its way.

 

[Boones Farm Strawberry]

What's interesting/one huge difference from Goobergate is that anti-ComicsGater-s seem to have overrun the #ComicsGate tag on Twitter. I think only one or two of the "Top" tweets under the tag is pro- at this point. It was completely the other way around with GamerGate, with every hashtag I remember that the opposition tried to start getting smashed by pro- forces.

Possible chicanery from Twitter HQ or legit activity is what I'm wondering. I'd have dismissed such things as paranoia in the past, but, eh, there seems to be no level Jack & Co. won't sink to at this point.

probably just like in GG, the opposition batsignalled in every SJW faggot under the sun even if they had nothing to do with games journalism, but since they decided their opponents were literally every video gamer on earth they were completely overrun even with all their influence and behind the scenes machinations

with comicsgate the same faggots are all getting the batsignal again but this time their opponents are guys who are still into comics in 2018 after all the shit that industry's been through - a pretty small group of guys who probably all have families etc and arent up for a 4+ year flamewar

 

[damian]

Zack confirmed it in this video!

Abe Hoekstra is Secret Provider! Abe Hoekstra was D&C fanpage’s Facebook moderator. He was also Fake Morgue (RebornLore):
Reminder:

Now that things with Matt have started cooling down (doubt that will last), I’ve found out some interesting things about that Morgue clone.

Turns out it might not be Michelle after all. I haven’t been able to confirm any of this yet but this is unbelievably hilarious if true.

Abe, Abe Hoekstra, was the moderator of the Diversity & Comics Facebook group.

From what I can gather, Abe had a gay crush for D&C, was rejected and this is him flipping out about it.

@neural
Again I can’t confirm if any of this is true yet. I’ve heard multiple theories on it from it being Michelle to the original Morgue (Martin) coming back , even theories that multiple people ran the OG Melissa Morgue account and this was one of them. Just another little footnote in the Morgue Saga.

I have not been able to confirm if they also run the @deadbeaters (and others) account, yet.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Zack confirmed it in this video!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=id=DBFiJCQIVFo;t=634Abe Hoekstra is Secret Provider! Abe Hoekstra was D&C fanpage’s Facebook moderator. He was also Fake Morgue (RebornLore):
Reminder:
I have not been able to confirm if they also run the @deadbeaters (and others) account, yet.

I love posts I don't know whether to rate as :islamic: or as . They're always the most fun.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

I think Zack is a tard and don't agree with him on most things but even I think stopping him from publishing a fucking comic is pretty insane.

Mark Waid and his troon friends act like fascist and I lost all respect for Marvel. It's a fucking joke of a company full of wannabe victims. Sjw ideology destroys everything it touches and ruins everyone who gets in its way.

If you’ve committed the mortal sin of using a tranny’s power word or calling out forced diversity then you don’t deserve to work ever again and should just starve/die in a corner. That’s the mentality of these idiot troons and the rest of the diversity crowd. Their goal is to deplatform, have their critics fired, blacklisted etc because they don’t have the mental capacity to debate them. They also can’t/won’t ever believe they could possibly be wrong or give up an inch.

I agree with what @Jaimas said about DnC.

 

[Florence]

Speaking of Mark Waid is Evil, this is an actual promotional photo of his Irredeemable comic:
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If you squint, he looks rather like a slightly older Based Sam. Appropriate, seeing as how they both specialize in fucking themselves over.

 

[RodgerDodger]

It's not actually "canceled." That's a lie. They're self-publishing and they have the money to do it.



I think it's a stretch.

But just even being able to raise it credibly causes lawyers for multibillion dollar companies to turn pale and shit themselves.



This is one of those issues where it isn't your standard lawsuit against Disney, which sues everyone for copyright infringement while blatantly stealing from others (like they stole Lion King from Kimba the White Lion).

Their usual strategy is just to spend you into the ground. The thing with Sherman, though, is the more money you have, the more you stand to lose. A loss in one of these can absolutely obliterate your entire model of business. And the more you have, the more the other side stands to gain, so if the case is remotely credible, you can end up facing a team as formidable as your own, no matter how big you are.

Now, there are a number of layers of corporation insulating Disney itself from this, and I think it may even be that only Mark Waid himself is liable here, but if Disney does get dragged into it, an unlikely event, things get really interesting.

Yeah Disney will not fight D&C. They will see Sherman Act risks at a time when they need FTC approval for a monopolistic merger. Neither Disney nor Marvel proper made any overt acts to put anti competitive pressure on AP or D&C. Their corporate ethical standards clearly forbid precisely what was done. And not in a wink and nudge way with tacit approval from above. Disney’s sin and liability here was failing to properly police and enforce their corporate standards and ethics on the minions occupying their Marvel Comics subdivision. Their best play will be to quickly and quietly settle. comfortably with D&C and use that as the prelude to applying the boot of Darth Mickey to Ike Perlmutter and the New York children.

And yes Anti Trust Lawyers are expensive. But the violations here were literally carried out in public. Gleefully. By employees of one of the worlds richest corporation. Meyer is probably getting daily calls from Lawyers willing to work on commission. Not that that is a great thing.

 

[Judge Holden]

Yeah Disney will not fight D&C. They will see Sherman Act risks at a time when they need FTC approval for a monopolistic merger. Neither Disney nor Marvel proper made any overt acts to put anti competitive pressure on AP or D&C. Their corporate ethical standards clearly forbid precisely what was done. And not in a wink and nudge way with tacit approval from above. Disney’s sin and liability here was failing to properly police and enforce their corporate standards and ethics on the minions occupying their Marvel Comics subdivision. Their best play will be to quickly and quietly settle. comfortably with D&C and use that as the prelude to applying the boot of Darth Mickey to Ike Perlmutter and the New York children.

And yes Anti Trust Lawyers are expensive. But the violations here were literally carried out in public. Gleefully. By employees of one of the worlds richest corporation. Meyer is probably getting daily calls from Lawyers willing to work on commission. Not that that is a great thing.

To paraphrase that line from the Ishtar Trailer, I cant believe this man might control the fate of the comic industry.

Seriously. At this point this is literally if gamergate was just one youtuber and his fans...and yet managed to somehow have an even greater impact than gamergates legions of spergs, speds, and e-celebs had. How fucking pathetic the comics industry must be if THIS is all it takes to terrify them into such idiotic action

 

[mindlessobserver]

Yeah Disney will not fight D&C. They will see Sherman Act risks at a time when they need FTC approval for a monopolistic merger. Neither Disney nor Marvel proper made any overt acts to put anti competitive pressure on AP or D&C. Their corporate ethical standards clearly forbid precisely what was done. And not in a wink and nudge way with tacit approval from above. Disney’s sin and liability here was failing to properly police and enforce their corporate standards and ethics on the minions occupying their Marvel Comics subdivision. Their best play will be to quickly and quietly settle. comfortably with D&C and use that as the prelude to applying the boot of Darth Mickey to Ike Perlmutter and the New York children.

And yes Anti Trust Lawyers are expensive. But the violations here were literally carried out in public. Gleefully. By employees of one of the worlds richest corporation. Meyer is probably getting daily calls from Lawyers willing to work on commission. Not that that is a great thing.

This is what just gets me. Usually these sorts of FTC complaints never see the inside of a court room or even regulatory action as anyone who wants to engage in producer/distributor collusion to hurt the competition is also smart enough to make sure the plan is hatched behind closed doors and that if pressed by regulatory officials or the irate competitions lawyers to flatly deny any such things went on. Yet the self righteous tards over at Marvel simply could not help themselves. They literally bragged about what they were doing openly, on twitter. Those virtue signal points could turn out to be very expensive.

 

[Michael Jackson]

LOL Igle ended up blocking him. I wish I could show the whole thing, but the replies are all over the place in this thread. I recommend just scrolling through Rekieta's twitter to experience all the :autism:: https://twitter.com/NickRekieta/with_replies

I love the internal monologues that must've gone on here:

• I'm marginalized and on the right side of history, therefore this lawyer must be wrong.
• I am smart, I can totally just look into these laws and be smarter than lawyer!
• Ah hah, if I isolate this one piece of the legal gooply-goop and interpret it through a post-colonial lens, I am right!
• Lawyer is saying my own links disprove my point. What an idiot!
• Oh shit, he said my DMs can be made part of the lawsuit and come back to bite me in the ass! Harassment!
• Phew, troll blocked; disaster averted. Check-mate!

 

[SiccDicc]

I like this man, he is a good man.

 

[RisingPhoenix]

To paraphrase that line from the Ishtar Trailer, I cant believe this man might control the fate of the comic industry.

Seriously. At this point this is literally if gamergate was just one youtuber and his fans...and yet managed to somehow have an even greater impact than gamergates legions of spergs, speds, and e-celebs had. How fucking pathetic the comics industry must be if THIS is all it takes to terrify them into such idiotic action

https://youtube.com/watch?v=id=8KdQ7Gig770;t=45

The benefit Comicsgate has is someone who can somehow stomach being constantly the main target. But also proves the main concern of Gamergate to be true (not that we didn't know it anyway) - whoever is the leader becomes the constant lightning rod for the SJW's to attack like a scarecrow. Like there's other guys on Youtube that are even less civil to the comics industry but because everyone knows D&C they just constantly go for him like a fly keeps batting into lightbulbs.

 

[AnOminous]

Seriously. At this point this is literally if gamergate was just one youtuber and his fans...and yet managed to somehow have an even greater impact than gamergates legions of spergs, speds, and e-celebs had. How fucking pathetic the comics industry must be if THIS is all it takes to terrify them into such idiotic action

I don't think it's that they were all that terrified. These little book-burning Himmlers have just been given such absolute free rein by the fake news and society at large that they believed that the law simply didn't apply to them. It was pure arrogance. They were outraged that anyone is allowed to disagree with them at all, and have such absolute contempt for basic human rights that they even invent phrases like "freeze peach" to express their contempt for humanity. They quite simply don't believe anyone who disagrees with them even has the right to do so.

So they're essentially allowed, in their belief, to commit whatever crimes they want to harm anyone who expresses disagreement of any sort with them, no matter how crazy the insane garbage they continually spout is.

 

[Vault Boy]

Yeah Disney will not fight D&C. They will see Sherman Act risks at a time when they need FTC approval for a monopolistic merger. Neither Disney nor Marvel proper made any overt acts to put anti competitive pressure on AP or D&C. Their corporate ethical standards clearly forbid precisely what was done. And not in a wink and nudge way with tacit approval from above. Disney’s sin and liability here was failing to properly police and enforce their corporate standards and ethics on the minions occupying their Marvel Comics subdivision. Their best play will be to quickly and quietly settle. comfortably with D&C and use that as the prelude to applying the boot of Darth Mickey to Ike Perlmutter and the New York children.

And yes Anti Trust Lawyers are expensive. But the violations here were literally carried out in public. Gleefully. By employees of one of the worlds richest corporation. Meyer is probably getting daily calls from Lawyers willing to work on commission. Not that that is a great thing.

Any idea on the likelihood of Mark getting fired and even blacklisted for pulling this stunt?

 

[SiccDicc]

I don't think it's that they were all that terrified. These little book-burning Himmlers have just been given such absolute free rein by the fake news and society at large that they believed that the law simply didn't apply to them. It was pure arrogance. They were outraged that anyone is allowed to disagree with them at all, and have such absolute contempt for basic human rights that they even invent phrases like "freeze peach" to express their contempt for humanity. They quite simply don't believe anyone who disagrees with them even has the right to do so.

So they're essentially allowed, in their belief, to commit whatever crimes they want to harm anyone who expresses disagreement of any sort with them, no matter how crazy the insane garbage they continually spout is.

Actually, I have a question about the legalities of the FTC thing. What if he had an auto-signature in his e-mail that says he's so-and-so from Marvel, would that be able to be used as evidence of him acting as Marvel's agent?

EDIT: I know he made a phone call, but I'm still curious in case he tried that method as well.