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Hi everyone, it's your boy Zach, and you, yes you, are not funny. I say this with complete confidence because most people are not funny. It's a very safe bet just to point at random people and say, you're not funny, you're not funny, because most likely, I mean super majority, ninety nine point nine percent, they aren't funny.

The problem is that not funny people used to know they're not funny, and they would never ever be funny. And now everybody thinks they're fucking hilarious, and if you're a fan of comedy, it's like living in hell. Every freaking just, uh, working hard or hardly working, they just think they're fucking hilarious.

So there's a Lobo ongoing series, and the art is freaking fantastic, although I do have some issues with it. But it's not funny. In fact, it is horribly unfunny.

So before I start, oh, before I, before I start, I'm still trying to find, well, I'm not actively looking, I'm kind of putting it off onto other people. I need to start paying for these pirated comics that I read. I don't want to buy them on Amazon because most of the money, or at least half the money, goes to Amazon.

It's ridiculous to pay full price for a digital file. So I want to give the money to a comic book shop, but I don't go to comic book shops. So I need someone to say like, hey, we will take your money.

So I'm gonna add up at the end of the month everything I read, except for two things. Number one is I'm not gonna pay for the back issues I read. I'm not.

Number two is I'm not going to pay for the books that I never would have bought in a million years, but I just read them on a pirate site because they were free. I know the type of stuff that I would buy if I went to the comic book stores, and they didn't smell like BO. I would absolutely try out the first couple issues of Lobo.

I would absolutely buy the first couple issues of Deathstroke. Deathstroke 2 was really good. I was gonna do a whole video on this, but then I looked at some other comics that came out this week from the same company, and they didn't have the same issue.

The freaking lettering is tiny, and it's not just tiny. It's this really thin font, which just gives the impression that everybody is whispering the entire time. Really good art.

This guy, I'm blanking on his name. I'm always surprised when any superhero or antihero has blonde hair. I don't know why.

For some reason growing up, I just got into my head that every superhero except for Aquaman had brown or red or black hair. So it always just throws me for a loop like, what? Deathstroke had blonde hair before it went gray? That's crazy. Fantastic art.

Good story. Just everybody's whispering like, Deathstroke, you're under arrest. Come out with your hands up.

Like, he's five feet away. He's like, I disagree. Is somebody napping in the other room? Like, why are you so quiet? Even the credits are like super small, but that was just like a one-off weird thing.

I remember a couple years ago, Murder Falcon by Daniel Warren Johnson. Just the teeniest, tiniest lettering. But, um, so anyway, um, people aren't funny.

You are not funny. Statistically, you are not funny. There's a better chance that you're amusing, and amusing is good.

Just, just, if you're amusing, be happy with that. Don't try to be funny. That's not how it works.

You're amusing. So, um, this is neither funny nor amusing. It is a guy with, I'm just gonna say no sense of humor, trying to write humor, and it's terrible.

And I can explain why. Visually. Everybody talks in a paragraph.

It's like a Jimmy Pomiody comic. Almost every line, please look at the screen, is a paragraph, and a long paragraph. Even the freaking caption is a long paragraph.

And as you can see, this isn't just like a page or two, you know, for exposition. Every line of dialogue, well, there's one that's one word, two words, but you can see, the majority of the dialogue is paragraphs. So, if you're not funny, you're gonna be like, woke Zack meltdown.

And, but it's like, if you're funny, or if you're amusing, which is what I can be, and you understand being funny, but you're not actually funny, but you get it, and you admire it, this is the opposite of humor. I'll give an example. Um, uh, God, I'm blanking on the guy's name.

He was in Jerry Maguire. He was the guy who, he didn't get kicked off of Saturday Night Live, but he, like, copied jokes. He got a really good hair transplant, and his wife is super rich.

I still, everyone else knows his name right now. So he's telling a story about the writing room for Saturday Night Live, and the schedule of Saturday Night Live is insane, because it was created in the 1970s when everyone was on cocaine, and the only way you can really keep up is if you are on cocaine. But it sounds like most of them are not these days.

So they're, the writing night, I think it's like Tuesdays, goes to like two, three, four, five in the morning. It's insane. You gotta work the next day.

Um, so they're doing this thing where it's like, um, Chris Farley, and he's ordering at a drive-thru. And the joke is, he's a fat guy ordering a lot of food. So he's like, I want 15 apple pies, and 15 sundaes, and 15 sodas, and 15 hot dogs, and it just goes on and on and on and on and on.

And so finally, it's funny. He's fat. He's ordering a lot of food.

It's Chris Farley. He's gonna ham it up. They don't have a punchline.

So they go all around the room. And, you know, one guy wants to repeat the entire order. Or one person says like, oh, I want to switch it to a Diet Coke.

You know, it's funny. Oh, 15 Diet Cokes when you've ordered like 10,000 calories worth of food. And then, uh, Jay Moore.

That's the guy. And then, uh, Jay says, they didn't kind of notice, like, uh, goddammit, Norm Macdonald was in the room. Um, it's like four in the morning.

Everyone's basically hallucinating. So, uh, Norm is like, ah, so you got the joke. See, it's like 15 apple pies, and 15 sundaes, and 15 Diet Cokes.

That's pretty funny. And he's like, uh, I think I can solve your punchline problem. He's like, uh, when the cashier asks him, uh, if that's everything, he says, yes.

Like I said, I'm not funny. I'm amusing. I can't be.

That's an awesome punchline. They didn't try to top it. They didn't try to double it.

They didn't try to do some weird metatextual twist. Long setup. One word punchline.

Three letters. Another analogy before I go. God, this is so funny.

This is horrifying. Look at this. This is supposed to be funny.

That's just it. They never know what they want. They want what we tell them to want.

And then they say that they don't want that. We come up with other things we tell them they want, and so on, and so on. So we've decided that their anti-hero needs to come up against a full-blown hero.

What? This isn't funny. Just because you draw things funny, it doesn't make them funny. But the another analogy is I had a buddy.

He went to go visit the Great Wall of China. And so people said, what was it like? It would have been funny if he just said like, eh. But he goes, it was exhausting, which was weird because this guy's in really good shape.

Like really good shape. It's exhausting. He goes, let me explain.

It's very old. Every single step, and there's a million steps, are different heights. So you can't get a rhythm.

Every time you've ever gone up the stairs, every stair has been the same height. So you just kind of get into this rhythm, and you go up it. But when every stair is a different height, your brain doesn't know what's next.

And that's, to me, an analogy for comedy. That you have to be surprised. There has to be some twist.

Writing comedy that is nothing but freaking paragraphs is not writing comedy. It's something else. It's like conservative humor where they're like, we're gonna go bother this guy and see if he gets bothered.

Oh my god, he got bothered just because we bothered him. What a soy boy beta cuck. It's like, I hate you so much.

There's all sorts of bad humor. I've never seen this in real life. This might be like food fights, like where everyone says like, has anyone actually seen a food fight in a cafeteria in real life? But the prank they do where someone's like, hey, come check this out, and you put something above the door.

So when they walk through, something drops on their head, then you laugh at them. What's the joke? That they aren't like those like spetsnaz commandos, or what is that, GSG9? And you just kind of like treat everything like it. What's the joke? That they walk through a doorway? That's not, I would just shoot them and kill them.

And at the trial, it's like, your honor, the humor was so bad. So what am I supposed to do? I'm supposed to be nervous walking through every doorway for the rest of my life? No, this was not planned. I'll do 5, 10, maybe 15 years.

And then I will get out, and nobody will ever put a prank on me ever again. That's the plan. But yeah, so don't judge a book by its cover, but you can definitely judge it by the interiors.

And this shit sucks. Good art, for the most part, but then again, I would actually say like, it's weird. It's like, this actually, this bothered me.

Because like, the joke is like, ha ha, we can see his underwear. But like, it bothered me that it's parallel to the ground. Comedy isn't in the parallel and the perpendicular.

Comedy is not in the interval. Comedy is in something unexpected that isn't a bucket of water dropping on your head. That's just surprising someone.

That's not a twist. They weren't foolish, you know? Someone just said like, hey, check this out. They went to go check something out.

I just shoot him with a gun. Just dead. But I like this knife.

I like this knife a lot. But yeah, so this is horribly unfunny to the point where I would describe it as chip. This is a dark scam.

It's Scotty Young. I kind of missed out on the whole popularity of Scotty Young. I was asking a friend.

It's like, yeah, it was like 20 years ago. You were probably deployed. His thing was that he has cute characters do violence.

And that's apparently hilarious forever. I would say, I would contend that he has a very fun art style and he's not actually funny. It's like Mirka Andalfo.

Andalfo? She's such a nice person. She's such a good artist that I would read her comedy stuff and it was terrible. I was like, you know what? She speaks Italian.

This is being translated. She's probably hilarious in Italian. And I had Italian people say, no, she's not funny in Italian either.

Her jokes are just like, somebody's extremely hungry. Somebody is extremely angry. Somebody is extremely horny.

Horny. That's it. That's like all of her jokes are just being very something.

And he's like, no, we like her. She's nice. She has a a cute, fun, sexy art style.

She is horribly unfunny in her native language. It's not going to get better or even worse through translation. So, yeah, so just to say yes.

Greatest punchline ever. My Norm Macdonald impersonation. Passing.

If you prank me with a bucket over a door, I'll kill you. And you can actually see if a book is not funny by flipping through it. You don't even have to read the words.

If you see just a bunch of paragraphs and like half of them are like squarish because they're like transmissions. No, it's not funny. Okay, so there's a couple of short words, but it's a lot.

It's a lot of this. It's a lot of this. One simple trick for telling, being able to tell if a comedy comic book is horrifically unfunny.

Anyway, thanks for watching. Bye.
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KiwiChud said:
Hi everyone, it's your boy Zach, and you, yes you, are not funny. I say this with complete confidence because most people are not funny. It's a very safe bet just to point at random people and say, you're not funny, you're not funny, because most likely, I mean super majority, ninety nine point nine percent, they aren't funny.
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Zack you are not intelligent, or insightful, I say this with complete confidence because you are retarded. It's a very safe bet just to point at you and say "you're not intelligent or insightful" because most likely, I mean super majority 99.9% of what you say is TikTok brained idiom.
 
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All right, board fam, the downfall of FNT, of Friday Night Tights, continues. We love to see it. At least I love to see it.

With all the drama that these individuals have caused. If the garbage is rolling downhill and it's coming back to them, I'm all for it. Let's have a party.

Quick recap on what's going on. I made a couple of videos on this. If you want to go back and check them out.

If not, essentially, Chrissy Mayer a couple of weeks ago did a stream with Melanie Mack lied about not knowing any of the drama going on with Melanie Mack, which by the way, Melanie Mack is problematic in general, period. Like if you've ever watched any Melanie Mack stuff, you know that she's problematic on her own, but being, you know, connected to Jeremy the Quartering with all of this false flagging stuff or whatever, like she's already problematic and it's being piled on top of that. Chrissy Mayer lied about not knowing about it.

She did know about it to what extent still questionable, but she didn't know. She did know there was drama. She got like loaded up on super chats.

Like I think it was like thousands of dollars in super chats of people trying to talk to Melanie Mack. She, she was sweeping for Melanie. While Melanie was sweeping for the quartering.

It wasn't good. That drama happened a couple of weeks ago. She was taken off Friday night tights on that week because it was too much drama.

Can't have her on there. We can't have Chrissy on Friday night tights when there's drama happening, which is pretty hypocritical. I'll tell you why in a second.

Then on Monday, Nerd Roddick Nooner happened. Gary Nerd Roddick had to address the drama. He doesn't like to do it.

He's very uncomfortable addressing it again. I'm good with watching them try to squirm with all this. Uh, and in that video, we're going to look at a clip here in a second.

He said on Monday, we won't be talking about this again. We will not discuss it again. And I said, as we're going to watch the clip here in a moment, you don't get to make that decision, Gary.

This is bigger than you. It's bigger than Friday night tights in terms of like the level of drama that is going on right now. You don't get to make a decision on whether you're going to talk about it or not.

It's just, it's out of your control. And this clip we're going to look at today is the Friday night tights panel talking about the drama that Gary said they wouldn't be talking about on Friday night tights because they couldn't get away from it. I tuned in a couple of times during the stream.

The chat was talking about it nonstop. They got super chats. There was a $50 super chat at one point when I was watching where someone who is a huge supporter of these guys said that he cannot believe that they're pulling SJW shit on Chrissy Mayer, silencing her for being controversial instead of letting her come on the show and and uh, hold her position, support her.

Keep in mind, they got Ryan kennel on the show. Uh, when he does controversial stuff, Shad with all of his AI shit, super controversial. He's on the show.

They let as on the show all the time. They literally had Gavin McGinnis and Alex Jones on the show who have nothing to do with geek culture at all. Highly controversial figures.

Alex Jones literally just lost everything because of how controversial he is, but they can be on there. But Chrissy Mayer cannot. But I knew that was going to be the case because of how all of this was playing out.

She wasn't on the panel again. And I suspect based on what she said on another stream that she's still going to be in timeout next week as well. I don't think there's going away.

She's been talking more and more about it. I don't see how this is going to go away, but this is what Gary said. Before we do this, let's look at this clip from Gary, uh, from one of my, uh, videos last week where Gary says, we're never talking about this again.

And then we're going to watch the clip where they talked about it again. Whatever the situation was, I think, you know, whatever you're going to say, it should be said on your channel and not on FNT because that's not what FNT is for. I don't like taking this now 21 minutes to fucking talk about it at all.

Um, and, and, and won't and won't, uh, continue talking about this shit. Uh, you say that like you have control over it. I think that's funny that you think you have control over this.

This is an out of control situation. And there we go. He, uh, literally was like, I'm not going to talk about this anymore.

It's not going to be on FNT. Yeah. Well, here we are on FNT in the same week, talking about it again, you can hand me my W's all the people in the chat who get, who have to cope and see about me being right.

I'm right again. I'm right again. Now let's hear what they have to say about this.

I'm quite interested in this drama. And people might ask me, Hey, why are you so interested in this? It isn't really, you know, totally debunking anything. There is some debunking to this.

I, I just debunked Gary when he was saying that he wasn't going to talk about it again, and he is going to talk about it. There's going to be some debunking here, but ultimately the reason why I'm watching this is because this is FNT dealing with drama that is fracturing their viewership as well as their panel. And this, I think is important to the space that we're in right now.

I think this is important. Uh, let's see what they had to say on Friday night. A couple of drama, super chats.

Eli, you can just ignore this stuff. Uh, it's perfect. There you go.

Uh, Michael Gonzalez for $50. Thank you, Michael. Uh, Chrissy destroyed her brand because she wanted to take the side of the quartering.

It's gone way past the point when you can blame, uh, Melanie or the quartering for Chrissy's actions. Chris, uh, Chrissy, uh, in the last week has shown that she's nothing more than a liar. And you're allowed to speak your opinion on that.

No, no, it's not an opinion. That's not an opinion. Like Chrissy did lie.

I mean, pretty much everybody that associates with you guys has lied at one point or another, but we know that Chrissy did lie. She's actually talked about it prior to this stream here, where she's admitted that some of the things she apologized for some of the things she said did because she wasn't being honest. She wasn't being truthful.

Gary, you don't even believe her. You don't even believe her, but you don't want this drama causing too much trouble for F and T. So here you're like, ah, you're, you're entitled to your opinion. You're entitled to feel this way.

Keep in mind. These are people that watch your show. They're looking to you to guide the ship.

They want to see which way you're steering the ship here. And you really don't know what to do, which is why you don't have her on the show right now, where this is something I think, look, this is what I think. I think that the viewers of F and T want to see her on the show so that you can all talk about it together.

Not only are there people that love it for the drama aspect, but I truly believe there are probably some fans of your show that want to see you work this out on camera. The behind the scenes stuff leaves too much room to interpretation. It feels like something sneaky and sus is going on in the background when you guys do this kind of stuff.

So that's why it's not going away. Keep in mind, the minute Chrissy comes back to F and T the minute she's back on the panel, it doesn't matter if it's a week from now or a month from now, the minute she comes back on the show, there's going to be drama about this that is brought back up. Mark my words.

I'm not wrong about this stuff. You can check my receipts, check my track record on this. I'm not wrong.

Let's continue. Absolutely here. Um, but, uh, we're not going to get into it in this show at all.

Yeah. I mean, like we, we, we spent 20 minutes talking about a lot of the stuff that happened last week. Certainly more stuff has happened this week and we know we see it, we understand.

Um, and, uh, yeah, she's not here right now. So yeah, it is that right. Right.

Cause you decided that instead of allowing her to come on and maybe clear her name or tackle this head on, you're just going to talk about her after you asked her not to be on the show, which by the way is protecting your show in the way that you would go after people on the left for protecting things. Remember how you guys didn't like the fact that Gina Carano, who was speaking her mind got to be too problematic for Disney and star Wars. And they decided not to renew her contract.

And you guys said cowards, you called them all kinds of names for doing that because they wanted to minimize the damage to their brand by keeping Gina out of their properties, keeping Gina out of their shows. And here you are doing the same thing to Chrissy Mayer. You have decided that having Chrissy Mayer on your show will be damaging to your brand.

And therefore you can't have her here anymore. You don't want the association. You don't want any real conversation about this.

You want it to just go away. You want to sweep it under the rug. You are participating in the same behavior that you attacked Disney for.

There's no difference here. Essentially Gina and Chrissy both did something controversial. Disney decided to not continue with Gina.

You have decided to not continue with Chrissy at least temporarily. And you were talking about her when she's not present, which is something I knew was going to happen. Let's be clear here.

I believe they knew it was going to happen too. So you can make money off of the super chats about Chrissy, but she can't be on the show to defend herself. That's real interesting.

That's, that's the part. She's not here right now. We, we did talk.

And, um, as far as that made a statement, uh, made two, made one last Monday, talked about it on Friday and you know, we'll see what happens. And you're still talking about it this week. This is from just this past weekend.

You're still talking about it. This every time Chrissy goes live every time. Cause Brittany Venti is still talking about this.

This is not going away. And like I said, whether she comes back this week or a month from now, the drama is going to return when she shows up on the show. It's just too easy.

I don't think there's any path to Chrissy Mayer returning to FNT. I don't think it's possible. If I can make a statement about this situation is I have no idea what's going on.

When you say that, I believe you. I believe that you're being genuine and authentic. When you say that, I think it's really interesting that Chrissy who is supposedly friends with, I guess, at least a handful of people on this panel, that she's embroiled in controversy, whether she started herself or not.

I don't know if everybody on this panel agree thinks that she started, or if she was actually ignorant to everything that happened. They're laughing while she is being dragged through the mud by people that watch her show and people that are in the chat for FNT. They're laughing about it.

It's all a joke. There's no support. There's no backing up of Chrissy Mayer.

Now I understand why they're doing it. I get it. It's bad optics for FNT and Gary and none of the people that are here regularly want to be dealing with any of that stuff.

It's bad optics, but isn't that really what these guys are about? You know what I mean? Like if you're going to be canceled or exiled or kicked out for saying something, this is where you go. You go to these guys. These are the guys that don't believe in canceling people.

They don't believe in silencing people. They don't believe in censorship. That's what they're about.

And here they are doing it to one of their own. And like I said, Alex Jones has been on this show. Gavin McGinnis has been on this show.

They've had lots of controversial people on the show in the past. That's never stopped them before. But this one, this one for some reason is too hot to handle.

I just Googled both those names. I was like, maybe they'll, some short explanation. I don't know.

There's no three hour documentary out there though. Here it is. Quartering false flag somebody got their channels removed, admitted to doing it after a while.

It is now being pretty much persecuted by the internet for doing it because you don't false flag people. Melanie Mack is his cohost. She happens to be friends with Chrissy Mayer.

Chrissy Mayer had her on the show after she has been sweeping for the quartering and then lied about why not knowing anything about it. That's the, that's it. That's the whole thing.

They don't want to, they don't want to bring it up. They don't even want to mention it. They're afraid to talk about it on F and T. They're afraid to bring it up.

Completely unrelated note. I suddenly have a hankering to eat an orange. Oh my God.

This is a three parts for the so-called good chair who isn't here right now. Uh, the way you've treated Chris. That's really interesting also that, that geeks and gamers, Jeremy is not on the panel because he's been going really hard on Chrissy Mayer.

Like he doesn't like what she's done, uh, with all this lying and everything. And surprisingly he's also not on the panel. Now I don't know if he chose to sit this one out.

There's been no discussion about, um, you know, him being asked not to show up, but I'm assuming that would be a much bigger problem for them. If they were caught telling Jeremy from geeks and gamers, not to be there on Friday night tights. But anyway, let's continue.

Are you getting all these oranges? Saber Leo. This is a three parts for the so-called good chair who isn't here right now. Uh, the way you've treated Chrissy publicly has been shameful.

Real friends or colleague call someone out privately first. Uh, did you not even reach out to her? Did anyone besides Gary, uh, you've always said never apologize to the mob. Uh, it'll never be enough yet.

Here you are feeding one against Chrissy, even after the, uh, her flawed apology and explanation, apparently it wasn't enough for you. How ironic. I agree with that.

I have heard on more than one occasion. Gary tell celebrities never apologize, never apologize to people on the internet because it's never going to do anything. It's never going to be enough.

This is true. So, so what is Chrissy supposed to do at this point? Clearly she did some shady shit with the super chats and Melanie Mack and all of this drama. And she's been caught in other stuff now after this.

So like there's other things that have happened. Does she have to apologize? Is that what they're waiting for? Do they think that her apologizing is going to make things better with their audience? Is that what people want? Is that truly what they think is going to happen? Let's hear what Gary has to say. Uh, I've followed you and G and G for four to five years and respected your growth, but your recent behavior towards Chrissy is baffling.

She screwed up a hundred percent and you can tell me to offer whatever, but respectfully, Jeremy do better. So, uh, Jeremy's not here to answer that. Oh, convenient.

Convenient. There was a part of that about you too, Gary. The first portion of that was you was about you.

Are you not going to talk about the stuff that he addressed to you? And you're just going to say, Oh, well, Jeremy from geeks and gamers isn't here. So we're just going to ignore the part about me. Are you going to address that? Let's see, you know, uh, and I won't answer it for him.

Uh, but, uh, I mean, I'm not going to answer it for him either, but, uh, cause that is directed towards him. He's certainly been talking about it a lot. I think basically everybody else on this panel has said their piece about the important parts, like the most important parts of the whole situation, which are channels getting deleted, people having free speech taken away and stuff like that.

And I mean, is it that what you're doing with your own panelists? Like, could you imagine if there was somebody or a person on a Disney podcast, uh, who was conservative and express conservative viewpoints and all of a sudden the nine other people on that podcast said, we don't want that person on here because they're too controversial and it will distract from our podcast. How would that play with these guys? How would it play if that were the situation? If somebody, uh, in a podcast full of, uh, people that supposedly supported this person decided that all of a sudden something they were doing didn't align with their values and they just told them not to come back on, would that be silencing that person's free speech to these guys? I mean, I don't, I can't say I know for sure, but I can say based on their, uh, you know, pattern of behavior. Yeah.

That's what they would do. Uh, that's not what this show is for. Isn't to get to like that at other co-hosts or anything like that.

Um, but the whole situation is, uh, people are reacting different. People are handling it different. And, uh, I'm not Jeremy, so I'm not making, uh, videos and thumbnails and stuff like that, talking about it.

Uh, he has been so, um, is there a bus that you're throwing people under like constantly? First it was Chrissy mayor. Now it's Jeremy from geeks and gamers. Again, I'm good with it.

If you want to like, continuously like throw each other to the wolves, I am totally okay with whatever your tribe decides to do. Uh, but think about this for a second. Jeremy from geeks and gamers isn't on the panel right now.

Chrissy isn't on the panel right now. Is it possible? Again, we, I don't have any proof of this. Is it possible that they decided that they didn't want either one of them on the panel? Was Jeremy from geeks and gamers asked not to show up on FNT? Because if he was here, super chats would be coming for him because he's been talking about this nonstop.

So did they ask him to sit out? It sure sounds to me like there was some conversation about this because of what Ryan just said. That's interesting. We'll try to relay that message to him.

Yeah, he might, he might've heard it. So maybe he addresses it. Uh, so yeah, the reason, um, uh, Chrissy isn't here is again, uh, to really, we're not a drama channel and it's to keep the show focused.

Um, you're not a drama channel. Oh, you mean you're not a drama channel about your, the members of your podcast. You're quite literally about drama when it comes to, uh, superhero stuff.

Lord of the rings, fucking women, MCU stuff like that drama is okay. Because it's when you can talk about other people's stuff, but when it's, uh, when it has something to do with people on your panel, all of a sudden you're not a drama channel, then you don't want to deal with it. That's really convenient.

Again, you had Gavin McGinnis and Alex Jones on your show, two people who have nothing to do with the fandom community. Why were they on the show? If you're not a cultural drama show, why were they on the show? That doesn't make any sense. As far as like what actions led to that, whether it's her fault or not.

It's been kind of a thing with me. We don't, I don't deal with dramas, particularly like if I caused it. Okay.

Then I'll deal with it, but I probably wouldn't make my co-hosts on Friday night tights deal with it. It's interesting to me that this has made him so uncomfortable. This is the first time that I think I've seen Gary this uncomfortable about something, because it quite literally is at the front door of his house, like the, the mob they're outside of the house and in the house.

It's a bunch of these guys and they've kicked Chrissy out of the house. They're like, you're out of the house. We're in here.

And you thought we, that we had your back. This is a non cancel culture, nonjudgmental space on the internet. This is where people can come.

Even when they're controversial, they can come here, but you decided to kick her out. You threw her out the back door and then shut the door behind her. And you're like, okay, she can deal with this shit on her own.

We're not going to deal with it. That's everything I know about FNT is they have people on here that are canceled for being controversial. That's quite literally part of their brand.

It's one of the fundamental parts of their brand. For some reason, Chrissy is too controversial for the show. And that's probably because they know Chrissy has lied.

That's what it is. They don't want to defend someone that is, has been proven to be a liar because they can't, there's no defense, which means they'd have to take accountability for this person while they're on the panel. And they don't want that in their brand.

They don't want to have to deal with that while they're streaming, talking about black people in the odyssey and the next woman in Marvel. Nothing, nothing says accountability, like keeping the people off of your show, like Jeremy and Chrissy. Nothing says accountability for, for behavior, like keeping the people off your show that you should be addressing because they are part of your podcast.

But sure. Keep attacking, uh, Marvel and Disney and star Wars for doing these same things with their employees. Um, and if I, if I cause drama, I would want to deal with it on my channel, whether it was my fault or not.

Uh, it, like the fact of the matter is it's here and we don't want it to drill the show, which is, you know, taking the piss out of Hollywood. That's what we, by the way, um, if you did something dramatic, Gary, would you take a break from your own show? Because it wouldn't stay like quite literally you're the host of FNT. How would that work? If Gary got caught doing something similar to what Chrissy did in any capacity, how would you keep that drama off of FNT? Would you just stop coming on the show? You let somebody else host it indefinitely.

That doesn't make any sense. You are the host. Obviously Chrissy is a guest on your panel, meaning that she couldn't come on the show if she wanted to, if you tell her no, whereas you could come on your show, regardless of what's going on, because it's your show.

That stance makes no sense. You do. Um, and I am not comfortable nor happy with, uh, dragging other creators, whether I like them or not on my show.

It's just, you know, once in a while I'll make a comment, you know, uh, particularly to people who, um, have tried to flag down this channel in the past. Well, you may, there's a video clip of you last week, dragging me by, by telling people that I associate with utterly Noah, a known plagiarist and false flagger. So that's a lie.

You do drag other creators on your show. It just happened to me last week. You know, people like, like can veto, you know, I'll certainly make a comment about that.

Veto has since apologized by the way. And that's why I kind of let it go. But, uh, normally I just, I don't worry about that stuff is if the channel's still going for me.

And, uh, we, we, we really, I'm not comfortable talking about drama. I'm not really comfortable dragging people at all. Clearly.

I'm not a dragging people. It's not what I do. It's not what I do.

And that's not what the show is for. Right. But, uh, overall, I guess I'm, I'm sorry you feel that way.

Kind of funny going, your friend under the bus again for a laugh while she's not there. Is one extreme where there is another extreme. And of course, you know, it's not like anyone's trying to please anyone, but you won't be able to even if anyone tried, because people have so, so different and vast, you know, expectations and desires.

And so. All right. That's where we're going to stop it.

Uh, I'll get my final thoughts on this. So one, the drama is not going away just because you don't have Chrissy on the show. You might see diminishing super chats about it as time goes on, but the minute she comes back, the drama is going to come back.

I don't see any path to Chrissy coming back to the show. Not in the present. I don't see that happening.

If Jeremy from geeks and gamers continues to make videos about Chrissy, I don't see a path for him to come back on the show without the drama happening. So y'all are in a bad spot. Now, when I made the video last week and I said, F and T as we know it is over people in the comments, like, well, what are you talking about this? This is what I'm talking about.

You have people who are fans of the show who were there on Friday night, who were super chatting about their, uh, issues with how this is being handled, which is what I talked about in my video. When people told me I didn't know what I was talking about F and T as we know, it will never be the same. Whether that means Chrissy never comes back.

Whether that means Jeremy from geeks and gamers can't be on the show regularly. Whether that means that people in the chat are not trusting them. Look, it's the fracturing.

It might only be like 5% of their viewers, but the point is that there's a percentage of people that watch F and T who are not happy about them behaving like the people that they have attacked over the years, which is Disney, Marvel. Uh, Lord of the Rings, Dr. Who, game of Thrones, you name it. They've talked about all this stuff and called them all kinds of names because they don't support the people that work for them when they're exerting their free speech.

And here they are participating in actually silencing that person's free speech by de-platforming them from their own podcast. It doesn't get any more hypocritical than that.
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So, there's a currently on-going drama between Webtoon creators and a Webtoon YouTuber named "Overthrow" and commentary channels BlackLightJack (tangentially, he hasn't responded), Chalupa, and dannphan (which is why I'm posting this in this thread, since I believe its related enough). The drama initially started with Overthrow's video on BlackLightJack:


A brief TL;DR of the video (as far as I remember it) is that she accuses BlackLightJack of being a misogynist, a "racist under the guise of anime vs. webtoons", hypocrisy, victim mentality (these are all from the video chapter titles), homophobia and likely some other things in the video. The accusations against BlackLightJack aren't important as he never responded and, at this point, he's not relevant to the current drama. What is relevant is her part on dannphan, starting at 9:33, with this being included in the "Misogyny" chapter of the video. She first accuses dannphan of being a "pick-me girl" ("She is such a pick me it is annoying"), for generally agreeing with BlackLightJack's points on the Webtoon the two are criticizing in the video ("The Princess's Jewels", which is best described as a reverse harem manhwa). This paragraph isn't everything regarding the video, as its an hour long, but it ultimately prompted a response from dannphan:


A TL;DR of dannphan's video is generally refuting the claims made in Overthrow's video and that some of the material posted on Webtoons have harmful depictions of gay couples and/or depictions of sexual misconduct and they critique these Webtoons because they may present a harmful or inaccurate depiction of those themes to the young girls that populate the readership of the website (what I generally remember from watching the video and skimming through the transcript).

As for Overthrow's video on Chalupa, it hits on sort of the same beats as BlackLightJack's video, albiet with some more serious accusations:



In it, she also accuses Chalupa of racism and misogyny concerning his critiques involving Webtoons. There is also a chapter titled "NOT pedophilia" where she goes over jokes Chalupa made concerning minors, including a scene where Chalupa took a, qoute (in Overthrow's own words), "....picture of a real child and a picture of a real pedophile and animated a rape scene between them portraying that the real pedophile raped and then killed this real child." 15:45

After this, she details that "...Chapula implied pedophilia in a Webtoon for no reason which led to the creators getting harassed, resulting in the discontinuation of one Webtoon and the deletion of another. So one out of three Webtoons survived this video. And if you're wondering why the video was cut short, its not because Chalupa felt bad for his actions. It's because one of the Webtoon creators paid Chalupa to remove their Webtoons from the video because Chalupa didn't want to take down this video." 16:33

This does go on, and basically the problem is that Chalupa called the authors "weird and pedolike behavior" because the FNAF Webtoons artists shipped the Night Guard and Freddy Fazbear, and that sent harassment from Chalupa's fans to the authors. There was a copyright dispute and the authors ultimately came to an agreement for Chalupa to take down the video for payment. Overthow equates this to extortion.

The big thing in the video is drama surrounding a Jeff Woods the Killer (by Willer Grey) Webtoon (best described as a Jeff the Killer AU BL comic (?)), with the main point of contention being if one or two of the character involved in the comic are underage, and if sexual assault occurred in the comic between an aged-up Jeff the Killer and another character (this is all in the "Pattern" chapter). Chalupa had implied that the author had depicted underage sex and sexual assault in the video he had uploaded on the Webtoon, and as a result, the author (Willer Grey) was harassed. Overthrow accuses Chalupa of slandering Willer Grey, and causing "severe emotional, mental and financial struggles" to Grey.

There's a lot of other things in the video, but ultimately it boils down to Overthrow accusing Chalupa of misogyny, racism, slander against Webtoon creators and extortion.

Chalupa uploads a response:


Chalupa claims he was a teenager during the time he made the jokes mentioned in the first chapter of the "Buried Controversies Behind a Glorified Reaction Channel" video on him. He apologizes to Willer Grey for the harassment sent to him. As for the Jeff the Killer stuff, Chalupa states that he doesn't believe its pedophilic as the two character were both the same age, but: "This is just my opinion, but I personally find it weird when characters are aged up to be used in sexual situations. Yes, in the original Creepypasta, Jeff was mentioned as an adult, but Billy never does". 17:00

As for the SA, Chalupa's response is "The fact that Billy was the one advancing is irrelevant. You have a responsibility to disengage with the drunk person. Their mental faculties are sveerely dampened and cannot consent. The comic tries justifying it by stating they're both 21 plus and give consent, but you can't just say that while showing an entirely different scene." 14:10

As with the other video, there's other stuff, but I'd like to get into Overthrow's response because that is what prompted me to post here and start archiving stuff.



In the newest video, Overthrow completely doubles down on the racism claims, although largely reiterates her points from the first video on Chalupa. What is important here is it is implied that Chalupa's response may have caused the suicide of Willer Grey due to slander "on three seperate occassions" (25:04).

Qoute: "My friend might be dead because you didn't bother looking up the definition of SA and consent before harassing him. So, you're all disgusting. Don't think you're better than the person lying to frame someone because you chose to believe him and the spread those lies further knowing that the person you're slandering is suicidal. Every single one of you has been documented. Do not unsubscribe from Chalupa". 26:04

"The way you thought you could spread misinformation and face no consequences because you have fans will parrot your lies and harass your victims. But what will your fans be able to do for you in court? Their comments harassing us can only be used against you. I thought you would do something like this so your content was downloaded before I uploaded my video." 53:20

"I have your legal information. So once you contact me, I'll relay their message to you after verifying your information with you so that we can proceed to court if you do not want to delete your slander video." 56:16

To zoom out a bit - Overthow is suing Chalupa over a Jeff the Killer BL AU comic, in which the creator may have commit suicide over harassment.

There's more within this drama, such as Overthrow alleging that Chalupa platformed a sex offender named Lexit who abused Grey, Chalupa being an ex-Trump supporter and Overthrow using it as partial proof of Chalupa being racist, and Chalupa's financial issues concerning his channel and his claim he needed the money made from his content on Webtoons to pay for his struggling family, but I was more concerned about archiving everything as the lawfare phase of this drama has begun. She also plans to make a response video to dannphan, which could have knock-on effects to parts of the YouTube-related indie comics industry.
 
@Scumlord Ok...... I don't understand what any of this has to do with comicsgate, Ethan van sciver, Ya Boi Zack or any of the retards that are a part of that ever shrinking and dying movement or the drama behind it. In fact NEITHER of these people from what I understand have ANYTHING to do with comicsgate at ALL. I will admit I say things on here that I shouldn't sometimes or defend things that people on here just don't care about and occasionally annoy people when I do it, THAT I will admit. But at least I stay on topic involving the thread I'm on. I fail to understand what any of this has to do with comicsgate at all.
 
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@Scumlord Ok...... I don't understand what any of this has to do with comicsgate, Ethan van sciver, Ya Boi Zack or any of the retards that are a part of that ever shrinking and dying movement or the drama behind it. In fact NEITHER of these people from what I understand have ANYTHING to do with comicsgate at ALL. I will admit I say things on here that I shouldn't sometimes or defend things that people on here just don't care about and occasionally annoy people when I do it, THAT I will admit. But at least I stay on topic involving the thread I'm on. I fail to understand what any of this has to do with comicsgate at all.
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That's my bad, I figure this might be a better post in https://kiwifarms.st/threads/youtube-commentary-community.85860/. Is there a way to move the post out of this thread and into a reply into that one? I figured it was at least somewhat related to dannphan since she was mentioned in this thread a couple of times a few years ago.
 
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That's my bad, I figure this might be a better post in https://kiwifarms.st/threads/youtube-commentary-community.85860/. Is there a way to move the post out of this thread and into a reply into that one? I figured it was at least somewhat related to dannphan since she was mentioned in this thread a couple of times a few years ago.
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I have no idea where this would go, because I have never heard of either of these people. Sorry, I wish I could help.
 
EVS should be kind and welcome Jeremy Hambly, Melonic Mac, and Chrissie Mayr into Comicsgate.

Imagine the fun streams these twin souls and kindred spirits could have together!

That's my bad, I figure this might be a better post in https://kiwifarms.st/threads/youtube-commentary-community.85860/. Is there a way to move the post out of this thread and into a reply into that one? I figured it was at least somewhat related to dannphan since she was mentioned in this thread a couple of times a few years ago.
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@Scumlord I don't believe dannphan is ever directly in Comicsgate, although I can be wrong - she used to hang out with Just Some Guy, so perhaps she is somewhat CG-adjacent.

Sematics aside, as a comic producer and content producer, she is currently doing much better content and more productive than pretty much all of CG though.
 
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Hi everyone, it's your boy Zach, and I was reading these comics and I was like I should do a video on these comics because I really like them. So that was the impetus for this all. So this is a Moon Knight issues 1 through 3, which I think are the only issues I actually read.

I'm not going to claim Woke Marvel wants to kill you or everything was amazing back in the 80s and 90s. I remember the first issue fondly. I remember the villain a lot.

I think about him weirdly a lot. And one particular scene. But I can't claim this was like a super favorite of mine.

And I had to actually like look up what happened to it because I don't really remember many people talking about it until the end where Steven Platt, please look at the screen. No, you're not having a stroke. That's what the art actually looks like.

Wow. Were people okay in the 90s? Like this doesn't look healthy. I just feel like, have you ever seen the the drawings where they're like, as this guy descended into schizophrenia we had him draw a self-portrait every month.

It's like, okay, you're keeping the schizophrenics busy. That's nice. But anyway, so this is Steven Platt and this is not pleasant to look at.

Definitely not digital. So anyway, I bought this first issue. They promoted it in Marvel Age.

It was known. They didn't just kind of sneak it out and it was a number one first issue. This is really nice.

I like this with the number sign. That's nice. And this would have been well, with a ruler, but hand-drawn.

And my thesis of this is that it's never a bad time to read a Chuck Dixon book. Like I'm always in the mood for it. There's never, it never has to be like, oh, you know.

No, it's always a good time. His style of writing hits this sweet spot where it's just, it's, you know, what is something that you're always happy is around? Besides Chuck Dixon. I really should be working on these analogies beforehand.

I just really failed on that one. I was using a Chuck Dixon comic as an analogy for a Chuck Dixon comic. You understand what I'm saying.

But I like this nice graphic credits page. But it was Chuck Dixon, Sal Valuto. Yeah, and Moon Knight.

And Moon Knight was, I think he would be best described as a guy at this point in his history. Warren Ellis had not made him cool yet. He had been like crazy in the, what was that? late 70s, early 80s with Bill Sienkiewicz going from being a Neil Adams clone to being Bill Sienkiewicz.

I still say Sinks, Sinkskiewicz in my head, but it's Sienkiewicz. But this I really liked. So Sal does this double page spread every single issue and they just keep getting better.

It's just, you know, in some ways it's a fairly simple trick. You know, it's just three point perspective, which you can teach anyone in 10 minutes, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the nice. Of the time this was higher quality work.

Man, that sounded like an insult. Of the time this was the, well, it wasn't the best. It was better than average, but that sounds like I'm diminishing it.

You understood that Sal Valuto had chops that he could really draw. He didn't just fake a few easy poses. Again, this was kind of a middle era for Moon Knight where he was just kind of a guy.

He was just kind of generic superhero, man. Like he was fit. He didn't have powers here.

He had a lot of abilities. He was rich, but he was cash poor. And one time a ransom was held and they're just like, you own a lot of stocks, but you can't really sell them off.

It'd be bad for the... We don't, we can't pay the ransom. So he's kind of chatty and jokey. He was just finishing up his time on West Coast Avengers before it got good when John Byrne took over.

So he was just kind of whatever, man. But still this was really, really, really fun. You have the good art.

You have the Chuck Dixon style writing, which is always good. Really keeps it moving. There's enough fun bits.

You know, he's got this hovercraft. He's got his Alfred, who's called Frenchie, because he's from France. That was a long pause for comedic effect.

I like the coloring. This is some very simple stuff to connote nighttime. Just, you know, two colors on the face and then... Nighttime skies were kind of crazy in comics for a while.

Sometimes they would be literally any color, as long as it wasn't the blue of daytime. And then, you know, sometimes you... It doesn't quite work. He... One of the things I like about Sal Valuto is, again, he... He's not afraid to try a difficult angle and he's not afraid to not do it well.

What would typically happen as an artist is you would lay out this, you know, this angle. And this, whatever it is, junction box, whatever it is, that's easy to draw. That's just three-point perspective.

The curve of the the door, that's easy. The headrest, that's easy. Hands, hands are always difficult, but this isn't the most difficult hand pose.

This one, looking up like this, it's... It's more difficult than you would think. So as an artist, and a bad one, what you do is you try this, then you erase it, you try it again, and then you just make it like an easier face. He'll just basically be looking at the reader and you just, you know, justify it.

Well, he knows where the switches are. He doesn't have to look for them. Nice, nice use of 3D technology, which was just tracing over this probably with vellum or tracing paper.

Now, this is a... This actually here is a little bit of work. It's a different font. It's not the regular font.

It would... I think... This might be some sort of mechanical font. They would have these kind of guides. This is one of those things like cartoonist Kefe, they were really good at.

So you would have like this ruler with the letters and then you would trace through it the holes for the letters. Or this just might be freehand, just to look like computer graphics. Here's a map turned into computer graphics.

This, okay, nobody's gonna care. When I used to say to see maps in like any movie, I literally didn't care. I was like, okay map, they're going somewhere.

They went from here to there. Now, I actually look at it like, okay, have I been here? I haven't been out this far. I've been... What is Central Islip is around this area? Long Island is really expensive for being Long Island and it kind of sucks like you can see New York City but you're not in it.

It takes a while to get there, but the rents are pretty fucking high. Okay, is that a flat tire? I think you got a flat there, Mark. So again, this is one of those things where... Oh, actually, I do have a question.

Ladies, for the women out there, do you like stuff like this? And I mean like it like you like it. Like any kind of layout or schematics, is that really cool to you? Or are you just like, that's nice. I would put a couch there.

Or is that, is it a male thing? Or is like, does everyone was like, holy shit. They just did the schematics of G.I. Joe's The Pit. A lot of computer screens.

They're introducing him. They're reintroducing him. We get a little bit of flashback.

This was a common thing they did back in the day to denote that this was in the past. They would curve the... God, I love comics so much. I really do.

Just, just the best. I finally cracked the code on comic book the comic book. I wrote the script like two Sundays ago.

I'm on the second draft. I got five more pages. I do five pages a day.

One day I did six. Well, actually two days I did six. And then it's ready to start going to layout.

And it's about discovering comics. Not just like, I like comics. But like, how did you hear about them? What store do you go to? Like, did somebody know that they came out on a certain day? Or did you just have to go to like a couple times a week to figure it out? You couldn't look it up.

And so yeah, so I just love how, like, who invented this? Who was the first person who said to, to denote or connote that this is in the past, I'm gonna do rounded corners. But you read a couple comics, you get it consciously or subconsciously, and you just know that this night sky is the present and this night sky is the past. And also somehow this is the same night sky with a totally different color.

So then he goes and this, this is cheap. He goes to his room and someone just springs at him and she's like, hey lover, I missed you. It's like, how horny were you? You were leaping through the air.

That's just kind of a cheap, it's like when they do the jump scares with cats. So he's raring to go. And it gets a little, some of the conversation is a little bit much.

You forget that I can bench press 300 pounds, mister. How? You can? So then this is like 1989. So it's like, they're geeks.

And that's like, that's it. That's all you had to do. It's like, well, of course they're stupid fat or skinny geeks.

They like computers, duh. Especially like the monitors that just kind of point wherever. Oh, that's nice.

So the graphics they made, let me see if it was Elliot Brown. Elliot Brown was like the Diagrams guy from official Handbook of the Marvel Universe. No, it was probably just Sal and Mark Farmer.

No extra credits for that type of thing. So then they start tickling and then we cut to the nerds and then we get to meet Bushman. And the way this character burned into my memory is crazy.

First of all, it's a, it's a very memorable name. Call me Bushman. General Bushman.

Okay. Being formal. All right.

But then he's got like the, well, I guess it's not technically a skull, but it's kind of a skull. So you got this African warlord whose name is Bushman and he's got you know Day of the Dead makeup 365 of the year. He's got this random Nazi epaulets pirate costume smoking a stogie with a freaking skull and crossbones ring and he's just look at his swagger.

So then we get to see him working out doing forearm curls. Pretty good gym. Again, this is the type of thing no writer, no editor, literally nobody expects this.

I'm just talking about comics. It's so nice. Nobody's like, hey man, you need to go to the gym and you need to draw these, you know, this gym equipment in three-point perspective and he There would be like a line in the script.

It's like he works out in his modern gym which, you know, the walls are decorated with martial arts weapons. You can do this a lot easier. You can make the whole panel just like this and this would just be a doorway and you draw a couple of these like you do the easy stuff.

You're not doing this freaking, what is this, a squat machine? That's difficult. He's really going beyond. Then we get a little cheap thing.

He's like, oh I got my my housekeeper. She's older than Moses and has a mustache that Frenchie's jealous of and then she's just like a hot chick in a bikini. And she's got a little storm cloud.

But then we get some pretty good action with, what is her name? Marlene? Yeah, Marlene. So, I don't know her story, but she's pretty good in a fight. Again, good action, but it's also like Who are you guys? 2L healed for hijackers? 2L armed too? He's just a guy.

His superhero name is Guy-Man because he's a guy. Man, I don't know how this became like the thing in the late 80s where he was just generic superhero man but I don't think this was Chucks. I think this is... They were doing some little bit of kind of dark stuff with him on West Coast Avengers but then again, it was pre-John Byrne West Coast Avengers, so nobody gives a fuck.

Then he gets angry because his girlfriend gets kidnapped and then this one's awesome. So this was a very, very, very common thing. The second issue that you would have Spider-Man, Punisher, Ghost Rider for a few years there.

So this one is Guest Cameo by Spider-Man. So, we get these guys peeping and creeping. That is some really... Again, all this stuff... You don't have to do this.

It could just be this ledge right here. This is really... This isn't in the script. No editor is going to say, hey, you need to spend half an afternoon drawing this wrought iron banister.

Banister? Is that a word? Whatever this thing is. This thing. Whatever that's called.

You don't have to do that. Nobody's expecting it. And here's the other thing.

You're not gonna get like extra kudos, except for me, 37 years later. I'm almost dead. Almost, but percentage-wise, very close.

So again, choosing the difficult angles, the difficult shots. So then we get the geeks and then he sends his drones, scouts, whatever, to go fight. And again, he's kind of joking around like his his girlfriend's kidnapped.

She's held in the embassy. This is the best part. So Spider-Man's there.

He swings by. He's like, I'm gonna take pictures for the Daily Bugle. And then he's like, that guy's handling it.

Thanks for the freaking rent money. He doesn't come back. That's it.

That was it. So I think that was Chuck taking the piss at this trend at the time. So Marlene is very feisty.

He hands off to Bushman and we get this great thing where Mark, people can't do this. This would slip or his legs would just fall off. But this is a common thing.

Superheroes would just torture people for information. They used to be so common. And then he punches them, but it's like a fake-out because I guess they were near the ground at that moment in time.

So then he's uh, he finds out that he doesn't have enough cash to pay the ransom and when I say that he is generic hero, man, he is generic hero, man. He has a little sphinx that he does something to to go down to his Moon Knight cave. A little bit of disguise work.

That's fun. Just simple stuff. I'm watching these movies, these Den of Thieves movies.

I just got into them. I don't think any heist movies should be set past like 2010. It's just, it's just not realistic with all the technology.

Nobody's robbing a bank vault. Even Charlie Cox said that for the first season of Disney Daredevil. He's like that's my least favorite episode.

A bunch of guys in ski masks rob a bank like it's the 1970s. So he goes in there, you know, light tone, runs into a bunch of bodybuilders. Kind of goofy and I mean almost Adam West-esque.

I love when he he goes and it's a recording on a television set with a VCR. So he's all super upset. Oh, he seemed kind of casual about it, but this was the one.

So Moon Knight goes to Africa, Freedom Town. That's great with spinning the nunchucks and how it looks like that. That's awesome.

Great cover. Let's see how much extra pencil mileage. Jesus! That is a lot.

That is a whole day. Thank you. I guess that's the right way to say thank you.

I bought this stuff when it came out. So then he goes to the only hotel in town, which is also the best hotel in town. Chuck Dixon humor.

Very funny. He actually wrote like the Simpsons comic for like 10 years. Again, you actually don't have to do this.

If you are learning to draw and you want to draw comics, you're like, oh shit I gotta draw all that. No, no, literally nobody expects you to do this. It's very nice, but they don't expect it.

So Bushman is a Bushman? Bush? Bushman? Bushman. Is he's... How do I say this subtly? He's not raping her. There's kind of an implied threat that something really bad could happen to her.

Because it hasn't been established that Bushman is like one of the honorable villains, like you're safe in my care as long as this does not happen. Like it feels like he's just kind of fucking with her. So he's showing off.

He's bragging about what a good leader he is. And then he's like, As sole ruler of Brunda, I face no opposition, no bureaucracy. I am free to deal with my nation's problems efficiently.

Problems such as AIDS. I have found a cure for AIDS. Is this shocking? Because I remember where I was when I flipped through this and it was absolutely shocking.

Because I would do the thing where I like flip through the comic and basically read like half of it before I would decide what I was gonna buy. I only got told this is in a library Actually, it was three times. Only once in a comic book store.

The other time, well, it was a wizard magazine, but it was like a little G-dunk locker. It's just like a little pokey bait station on a National Guard camp. And then one time in Camp Hanson in Okinawa.

Just some bitter 10 times divorced staff sergeant. I was just reading a comic. I think it was like that X-Force with Mike Allred.

He's like, this ain't a library. It's like You don't work here. So then he's getting a little bit more threatening, but still weirdly enough not.

And then we get kind of a light adventure of sneaking into his headquarters and all sudden he's got a compound bow with a explosive tipped arrows. Why? Because it's the 80s. We just had... where'd he get it from? There.

He got it from the getting place. That's where he got it. Then he sneaks into the the lair.

Frenchy buys a helicopter from some rebels or something. Flies to go rescue him. Really nice, what is it, Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun.

Why? Why is it there? Because it looks cool. Again, nobody expects you to give that much detail to the gun. Just Al wanted to draw that gun and it's a cool gun.

Cool looking gun. I don't know how it fires. And then this.

This feels like the last page. And it's a cliffhanger, but it's not. Like the whole story ends in this third issue.

Then they go to another storyline with Russ Heath, who's a good artist, but I wasn't that much into Moon Knight, especially not this version of him. So then you're like, oh shit. Because while this body type is kind of common in comics, it wasn't at the time.

It was more like this. So you're like, well, there's no way he can beat him. This guy is larger.

That's how fighting works, right? But it turns out that, again, there's this like, Do you see the sword? It is the traditional weapon of my people. Thanks for showing me the family silverware, Bushman. But I'm here for the woman.

She's giving him the Norm Macdonald face. So what do you got there? You got the swords? So then, fairly short fight. Moon Knight wins when you don't think he's going to.

And then Marlene's got, Thanks for that. M16 isn't that well drawn. You know what, this might have been the inker getting confused about how to interpret the pencil lines.

This, I don't know what this is. It's like Falkland Islands war rifle the Brits had that was ridiculously long. Then he brings Bushman along, chokes him out.

They go up the helicopter again. It's just fun, man. And look at this.

To end this awesome, fun adventure, where Moon Knight beats up the guy who cured AIDS. They end it with a with a nice little card again. This might be in the script, but it would be fine just to leave it for a letter.

No, this is Sal just saying, oh, I'm gonna put a little card there, write Fien, it means the end. And let's do a color hold. Yeah, it's like three times more difficult to do a color hold than just draw it in ink and then color it.

But hey, those ladies who do the separations up in Connecticut. I think people liked it. I think it was more work, but as long as you didn't do it like in every issue or multiple times in an issue, I think it was fun.

You never see color holds much. Well, not never, rarely. They're special occasions because they were extra work.

Technologically, they were a little bit more difficult to do than just, you know, drawing a moon and coloring it in yellow. But, uh, so much fun. So much fun.

And then Marvel went woke and tried to kill me. I'm a ghost. But anyway, go check it out.

Oh, and I'm still trying to find a comic book shop that will take $100, $150, $200 a month for free. I just send it to them because I I don't want to pirate new comics. I have no problem pirating back issues.

I mean, I actually paid for these. I have them in storage somewhere or I sold them. Whatever.

I don't feel bad about pirating a book from 1989. I do feel bad about pirating a new book from 2026. So, uh, and then one guy's like, hey, maybe you should contact these guys.

It's like, no, they can contact me. This is literally free money. This is free fucking money.

The grapevine will carry this out and one comic book shop will take me up on it and then that's it. I'm not gonna call people and ask them Can I please give you money? It's out there. I'm putting it out into the universe and I'm letting Jesus take the wheel.

Anyway, thanks for watching. Bye.
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Also, in case anyone is wondering why Rekietas's head is in this video, it's because I used it to censor EVS Daughters' face

 
Scumlord said:
She also plans to make a response video to dannphan, which could have knock-on effects to parts of the YouTube-related indie comics industry.
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MisterCH 86 said:
@Scumlord Ok...... I don't understand what any of this has to do with comicsgate, Ethan van sciver, Ya Boi Zack or any of the retards that are a part of that ever shrinking and dying movement or the drama behind it. In fact NEITHER of these people from what I understand have ANYTHING to do with comicsgate at ALL. I will admit I say things on here that I shouldn't sometimes or defend things that people on here just don't care about and occasionally annoy people when I do it, THAT I will admit. But at least I stay on topic involving the thread I'm on. I fail to understand what any of this has to do with comicsgate at all.
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Yes, unlike GamerGate where any SJW related gaming drama pretty much falls under that banner, ComicsGate is really about a group of people who were or currently are involved in that particular movement. It's really very different than GamerGate.
 
Scumlord said:
What is relevant is her part on dannphan
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Dannphan's pretty based, but it's concerning that she's knowingly hanging out with a gay furry. Maybe Vicki can cover it so we can talk about Dannphan without people flipping their shit that Ya Boi isn't being talked about for one fucking post. DP has reviewed some Comicsgate books before, so she's not completely off-topic imo.


Speaking of Vicki, what do you guys think of her show now that Dean's out of the picture? She's putting episodes out fairly regularly but I've notice she struggles with technical stuff such as playing videos without sound then wandering off like a boomer and not seeing the chat frantically telling her it's muted.
 
Quarterback Rex Grossman said:
Dannphan's pretty based, but it's concerning that she's knowingly hanging out with a gay furry. Maybe Vicki can cover it so we can talk about Dannphan without people flipping their shit that Ya Boi isn't being talked about for one fucking post. DP has reviewed some Comicsgate books before, so she's not completely off-topic imo.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5H06FcM9Yeg
Speaking of Vicki, what do you guys think of her show now that Dean's out of the picture? She's putting episodes out fairly regularly but I've notice she struggles with technical stuff such as playing videos without sound then wandering off like a boomer and not seeing the chat frantically telling her it's muted.
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I do think doing a full video on an obscure Ya Boi Zack comic does make her ComicsGate adjacent.
 
I also concur that Dannphan is CG adjacent. She reviewed CG books and was referred to by YBZ and other CG people. She has shifted focus more to anime and manga rather than western comics. The Overthrow stuff probably doesn't fit in this area, but IDK where it should go. Thinking it belonged here was understandable, if incorrect.
 
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