IIRC there was a Yellowflash, Cecil and TUG? drinking stream on one of their channels and apparently YF went off his rocker about why he hates Engeltine in a massive rant. I was watching another stream (probably rackets) and people were talking about it in the chat and as far as i know that stream was either privated or removed after it ended. I would have liked to have caught that.
Yeah.. the infamous debate with Unranked Chevron and Engeltine on Nicky Racket's stream was some painful shit to watch. I made it only about half way through because there is only so much spergery you can listen to and neither of them seemed to have anything approaching a fully formed point to make. You can catch that shit-show here but it's only fair slap a warning on it: 'Please be aware, watching this content may result in self-harm'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vOz9K1HXCY&t=7038s
I'd love to see an impartial review of Comicsgate books by a third party with no skin in the game.
I didn't back Lonestar because cape shit isn't really my thing and it just looked like a sub-par Captain America rip-off akin to those cheap, Chinese market-stall knock offs of Marvel product...
Huh? It Ron Man and is Capstan Merica!
It's the same reason that I never backed Zack. I was
sorely tempted to, just to give the industry a middle finger, but at the end of the day his campaign didn't need my 25 bucks to do that and I felt that it would just take the piss out the whole idea of Comicsgate to back something for ideological reasons over quality.
It does beg the question though. Has Comicsgate got a writer problem?
You only have to skim through Mike S. Miller's weekly 'Drawn and Quartered' show to see that comicsgate is brimming an with amazing pool of artistic talent. But as Gail Simone pointed out in a tweet (and who want's to find themselves in agreement with that smug land-wale), where are the writers? All over at Ben Henderson's Cautionary Comics or Alterna perhaps like Chuck Dixon?
It's just kind of a shame that the first wave of comicsgate books look underwhelming from a writing perspective and I wonder if the delay in EVS finishing Cyberfrog isn't in part a result of his starting out by drawing his story without a finished script. Just like shooting a movie without a finished script, there will be inevitable re-shoots to craft it into something coherent after the fact. That's going to cause delays, because you're never going to be able to put a date on when your done if you don't know in advance what done is going to look like, just that you'll know what it looks like when you finally get there.
You kind of get hints of this from the occasional comments EVS makes about the ever expanding origin story consuming the book and whether or not he needs to drop pages from the mid section to just get the book out. Personally I hope he takes the time to make Cyberfrog something the anti's choke on rather then rushing it out to meet the criticism of people that didn't buy the book in the first place.
I feel like every comicsgater waving an indigogo around at the moment really needs to sit down and watch Doug Tennapel's series of breakdowns of how to write a script and structure a story. They're very good because he's spent years producing scripts for animation houses using his writing formula which he teaches a writing course on, here's his first one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUGxTu-2y4M&list=PL9lUh2RfeyPGbRsK6TCdzSkgxD3fEeFLn