#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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RockVolnutt said:
The irony is Willow wrote the most acceptable Kamala. Everyone mentions how she was a different character in books like Champions where they couldn't resist making her "angry hip brown girl" which is a complete 180 from what she's supposed to be.

Going to be interesting to see how things work out whenever the baton is passed.
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She's also a decent human being unlike Waid & Perez.
 
I'm so glad the Inhumans crashed and burned and Ike didn't get his way. Remember we were supposed to side with the bottom characters and hate the one on top of this poster. I have no words.
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I have a feeling that even the Marvel staff fucking hated Ike's plan of pushing them at the cost of mutants who actually sell. The IH were written almost like villains but not blatantly which only made more people turn against them. It felt a lot like a self sabotage. And since then the mutants got like 10 books who keep selling while the Inhumans were restricted to 3 at most.
 
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I wonder how this will turn out:
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“Only we can play the identity games, not you.”:
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The most astonishing thing in this is they are a looking for a “woman, non binary poc” COLORIST to bring a different perspective? Really? Any rational sane person would think that the ONLY thing you would want or need a Colorist to bring would be their own set of crayons.
 
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RodgerDodger said:
The most astonishing thing in this is they are a looking for a “woman, non binary poc” COLORIST to bring a different perspective? Really? Any rational sane person would think that the ONLY thing you would want or need a Colorist to bring would be their own set of crayons.
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Colorists can bring certain perspectives to the comic. John Higgins' work on Watchmen is probably the best example of this, paying particular attention to shadows and lighting, as well as creating new subtle details (the palindromic colors in issue 5 for example, which contrasts bright reds with warm blues).

However, Higgins was also closely working with Dave Gibbons. Whether or not Higgins is a man is irrelevant. A colorist's perspective matters as far as his ability to communicate with the artists and making sure the drawings don't look like shit.
 
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I love how this immediately reveals how racist she is for a "progressive". She instantly assumes Latina means Mexican- that's something they accuse conservatives are doing. Irony.
Also, you need perspective from a colorist? Isn't their job to, I don't know- COLOR?
The most they should have an opinion on is what palette looks best, not fucking politics.
 
Baldur's Gait said:
Colorists can bring certain perspectives to the comic. John Higgins' work on Watchmen is probably the best example of this, paying particular attention to shadows and lighting, as well as creating new subtle details (the palindromic colors in issue 5 for example, which contrasts bright reds with warm blues).

However, Higgins was also closely working with Dave Gibbons. Whether or not Higgins is a man is irrelevant. A colorist's perspective matters as far as his ability to communicate with the artists and making sure the drawings don't look like shit.
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Kind of my point. The skills you want in a colorist are entirely bound up in being a good colorist. How to blend contrasts and establish moods and emphasis. The actual color of the colorist has no bearing on any of that. Their status as a trans non binary lesbian of color has no impact on what colors they put on the page. Their life experience and perspective is completely meaningless. It is their job experience and displayed abilities that are the only thing that should matter.
 
Baldur's Gait said:
Colorists can bring certain perspectives to the comic. John Higgins' work on Watchmen is probably the best example of this, paying particular attention to shadows and lighting,
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I'm reading the graphic novel of Michael Moocock's Elric series. Man, is the coloring painful. All these weird reds, yellows and purples vomited up in kind of a washed out style. I usually don't notice this kind of thing, but wow is it bad here. I honestly think I'd like it better if they'd have kept it black and white.
 
KiwiLedian said:
I love how this immediately reveals how racist she is for a "progressive". She instantly assumes Latina means Mexican- that's something they accuse conservatives are doing. Irony.
Also, you need perspective from a colorist? Isn't their job to, I don't know- COLOR?
The most they should have an opinion on is what palette looks best, not fucking politics.
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Lefty massas are as dumb and bigoted as they were when they had minorities work their fields.
 
Baldur's Gait said:
Colorists can bring certain perspectives to the comic. John Higgins' work on Watchmen is probably the best example of this, paying particular attention to shadows and lighting, as well as creating new subtle details (the palindromic colors in issue 5 for example, which contrasts bright reds with warm blues).

However, Higgins was also closely working with Dave Gibbons. Whether or not Higgins is a man is irrelevant. A colorist's perspective matters as far as his ability to communicate with the artists and making sure the drawings don't look like shit.
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I'm curious what she imagines a non-binary or female perspective on coloring might look like.

"I love how freely xie approaches coloring within the lines. Xie doesn't so much smash the amateur/artist binary as transcend it."
 
IMHO colorists are the least important part of the comic production team. I’ve rarely ever read a comic where I feel the color added things to the story. Normally I notice the coloring when it’s freaking terrible, pick up any book with art by Sorrentino (specially bad in Secret Empire) to notice what I’m talking about.

Some books look better with just the inks, take Batman: White Knight for example:
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If Sean Gordon Murphy or DC ever decides to release a B&W version of Batman: WK I’m buying it in a heartbeat. The coloring isn’t bad, but B&W just looks better.

Don’t bend the knee, you’ll only get tranny dick in your mouth:
 
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She's arguably not wrong in that a business does have the right to not serve you. But she's come at this conclusion way too hard due to her Cafe Communism and reeing at treating people like humans.

She also forgets that you can only escape living in a cardboard box can only happen if you keep your business open to your customer base.
 
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