🦊 Furry Closed Species - Pay $500 to draw a bedazzled fox

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Kuchipatchi said:
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When the iPhone is a better bargain than what you offer, rethink your life.
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For around the same price of the iPhone or 2/3rds of the the price of said closed species, you can buy a brand new Samsung Galaxy Note 10 with the S-Pen and literally make money from furry art you draw on it. Or if you run a business you can link up a credit card reader to it. You can also sell it when/if you buy a new phone.

With furry art, you get nothing for $1,500. It's barely different than spending thousands of dollars in a WWE mobile game.
 
CIA Nigger said:
With furry art, you get nothing for $1,500. It's barely different than spending thousands of dollars in a WWE mobile game.
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I was about to mention something like this myself. This reminds me of a guy I know who spent 900 bucks on a gacha game to get a halloween alt of a character he had the hots for, and then months later when he couldn't get the same character's bride alt he just quit the game. All that money down the drain.
 
Vapewizard said:
I was about to mention something like this myself. This reminds me of a guy I know who spent 900 bucks on a gacha game to get a halloween alt of a character he had the hots for, and then months later when he couldn't get the same character's bride alt he just quit the game. All that money down the drain.
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That's basically what most of these people do. Popular designers end up with hoarders. These people will buy out designs instantly when they can or will spend erroneous amounts of money to get them. You'll notice they own numerous designs by these people and sometimes won't have additional art or really anything for them like a bio. They're just there. Basically just a way to say you have money online. Now that Casino and Pajuix have seen they can EASILY have people shill out 1,500$ they'll constantly raise their prices to absurd heights for mediocre digital designs. Designs that are still held to their T.O.S and can be revoked if they really get peeved at you and they can then resell. These people end actually making it less viable for them ironically. There's never going to be an average joe who'll want to spend a grand on this sort of shit. Only rich younger kids who'll probably regret it and try to resell it.
 
GayDemiBoy said:
That's basically what most of these people do. Popular designers end up with hoarders. These people will buy out designs instantly when they can or will spend erroneous amounts of money to get them. You'll notice they own numerous designs by these people and sometimes won't have additional art or really anything for them like a bio. They're just there. Basically just a way to say you have money online. Now that Casino and Pajuix have seen they can EASILY have people shill out 1,500$ they'll constantly raise their prices to absurd heights for mediocre digital designs. Designs that are still held to their T.O.S and can be revoked if they really get peeved at you and they can then resell. These people end actually making it less viable for them ironically. There's never going to be an average joe who'll want to spend a grand on this sort of shit. Only rich younger kids who'll probably regret it and try to resell it.
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toyhou.se is a great place to see this kind of hoarding in action. if you go to "browse" and search for the name of any popular species you can likely find people whose profiles are full of these expensive adopts.
 
harbleglarb said:
toyhou.se is a great place to see this kind of hoarding in action. if you go to "browse" and search for the name of any popular species you can likely find people whose profiles are full of these expensive adopts.
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I remember back when closed species/character adopts were first gaining traction and the most expensive/high quality ones were like $100 or something for an autobuy at most; to see that people are willing to spend over a thousand bucks on a no-background, no-additional-art design that doesn't even qualify as a character sheet is really unsettling; and this is coming from an artist who would gladly make money for drawing critters all day.

There's definitely a compulsive buying addiction aspect to it, I think. It's the same sort of mentality from people who compulsively buy high-end shoes and wallets that they only use once if they even bother to use them at all.
 
Pukebucket said:
I remember back when closed species/character adopts were first gaining traction and the most expensive/high quality ones were like $100 or something for an autobuy at most; to see that people are willing to spend over a thousand bucks on a no-background, no-additional-art design that doesn't even qualify as a character sheet is really unsettling; and this is coming from an artist who would gladly make money for drawing critters all day.

There's definitely a compulsive buying addiction aspect to it, I think. It's the same sort of mentality from people who compulsively buy high-end shoes and wallets that they only use once if they even bother to use them at all.
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There are a few people who might add on to designs if it's autobought but those are usually designers that might be less famous or just gaining traction. Most popular designers know they don't have to do that. They just need to make their adopts, especially for their own species, limited. One thing Mignyans and Dainties have in common is when they do MYO slots they only do a limited run of them. Dainties do around 80 or so and Migyans maybe 50. All of these slots are gone within a second the journal is posted. Dainties did an unlimited 10 min slot grab, there were roughly over 700 slots sold for 35$ a piece.

There's definitely an addiction aspect but I think most of the reckless spending comes from how young some of these people can be. Some hoarders are only around 20, hell Casinos herself is 19-20, they don't have a fully developed brain or a sense of the actual value of these things. It's like Furries and fursuits, except the furries are getting an actual custom physical good. The kids with these designs can look popular and might get to talk with their fave designer by showing their willing to throw entire month's worth of paychecks at them.
 
The Pajuxi x casin0s collab isn't over yet, either. They're going to release two "crossbreed" designs auctions on the 25th and 6 other designs before the month ends. Place your bets for how much those will go for:
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GayDemiBoy said:
Dainties did an unlimited 10 min slot grab, there were roughly over 700 slots sold for 35$ a piece.
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Imagine making over 24,000 dollars in the span of 10 minutes while doing absolutely nothing. This closed species shit is stupid but I can't help but get a little jealous over those numbers.
 
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Imagine making over 24,000 dollars in the span of 10 minutes while doing absolutely nothing. This closed species shit is stupid but I can't help but get a little jealous over those numbers.
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Imagine not filing taxes for these too. I'm outside the US but earning that much per sale where I live is bound to be taxable income.
 
Finrod Felagund said:
Imagine not filing taxes for these too. I'm outside the US but earning that much per sale where I live is bound to be taxable income.
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If you're working as a professional illustrator, even freelance, there's usually a limit to what you earn and eventually it will be taxable. Depending on how much you earn in some places too you aren't able to apply for certain benefits like unemployment, but it's pretty much an open thing most 'hobbyists' don't care about that.
 
Vault said:
If you're working as a professional illustrator, even freelance, there's usually a limit to what you earn and eventually it will be taxable. Depending on how much you earn in some places too you aren't able to apply for certain benefits like unemployment, but it's pretty much an open thing most 'hobbyists' don't care about that.
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Yeah it largely depends on where you live; writing something off as a "hobby" only gets you so far but it can depend a lot on how much is being earned monthly/annually as well. Generally I think it probably goes somewhere alongside minimum wage and payment regularity. If you're earning enough to make minimum wage per month doing commissions then the IRS will probably crawl up your ass about you qualifying as a professional freelancer, even if you're only creating/selling one (expensive) piece at a time.

Likewise, if you're on disability and earning money through art commissions (as I know many online artists do/are), I think you're allowed to earn up to a certain threshold per week/month/year depending on where you live; generally they won't bother demanding the need to declare it if those earnings over the monthly average once in a while as long as it doesn't happen often, but if someone earns up to the monthly limit (even if that limit is way below minimum wage) then they may deduct that from the disability payment. So you might as well work for free if you're planning on earning a grand on commissions per month while sitting on disability.

This is where online currency and goods can get kind of fucky as well; if someone is doing commissions for digital currency there's a good chance that that shit won't ever be asked about or even considered regarding equity. This is why, I suspect, so many artists who work in USD are willing to take DeviantArt points, Steam games, or other trade items/currency online rather than in cash. They might take some for finances such as paying rent and utilities and grocceries, but additional items can just get slapped onto a wishlist and they can trade goods and services instead of using USD.
 
Dorami said:
This is just a case of people wasting their money on a brand-name. They are not paying for a full-fledged and three-dimensional character but they are paying for bragging rights because "this two important artists from CS Community created this character so look at how cool I am now that I own it!".

People do this with designer shoes and bags all the time, but for some reason this feels even worse. The two artists in question do not even offer any sort of extras if you pay such an exaggerated amount of money for it (I know some of these adoptable-sellers include extra art pieces or commissions when someone ABs), they know its their name what gets them the cash.
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It feels worse cause at least with designer clothes, they have a practical use (even if most of the people who buy them just hoard them in their closet). Here, you're literally spending thousands of dollars on a jpeg that does nothing. Even gacha characters are more useful, as you can at least use them in their respective games.
Automaton said:
The Pajuxi x casin0s collab isn't over yet, either. They're going to release two "crossbreed" designs auctions on the 25th and 6 other designs before the month ends. Place your bets for how much those will go for:
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I'm gonna guess $2,000 to $2,500 USD.
 
GayDemiBoy said:
Dainties did an unlimited 10 min slot grab, there were roughly over 700 slots sold for 35$ a piece.
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In anticipation for the soon-to-be-posted Mignyan x Dainty hybrid auctions... I just wanted to make sure we archived this one. Here's the journal in question and here's the final slot claim confirmation, #678. That's 678 people paying $35 dollars to buy a voucher to make their own satyr in thigh-highs, for a total of $23,730 USD.
 
Automaton said:
In anticipation for the soon-to-be-posted Mignyan x Dainty hybrid auctions... I just wanted to make sure we archived this one. Here's the journal in question and here's the final slot claim confirmation, #678. That's 678 people paying $35 dollars to buy a voucher to make their own satyr in thigh-highs, for a total of $23,730 USD.
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God when you put that amount into thought it's mind boggling how much Paijux makes in a year. The 10 minute unlimited slot doesn't happen often if ever before. She does the sales twice a month (At least one planned and then a random flash sale), add in the mod adopts since it's speculated if mods make the full amount or have to give a percentage to Paijux (Certain species do this where mods will pay 15-20% to the creator) Paijux isn't going broke anytime soon. Though it does raise a huge question.

Are the huge species owners many of whom are usually early 20's paying taxes on these species and adopts? They usually charge via Paypalor in the dainties case they can do a mix of paypal and deviantart points. So how do you think if they do taxes at all that they file this income?
 
Alrighty folks, the first Dainty/Mignyan hybrid has been posted. Did you place your bets for how high the autobuy would be?
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Sangria said:
I'm gonna guess $2,000 to $2,500 USD.
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Ding ding ding!

Wondering how long it took for it to be autobought? A whole 5 minutes after it was posted.
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