❄️ Snowflake Christine Milneaux - Munchie who came here to sperg [PM sneasel if you wanna do a proper OP on this tard]

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

lol @ rent-a-sperg.jpg

(for history/costume spergs, Historical Emporium is actually a pretty decent place to buy from if you need a Living History kind of costume. They're not cheap but they do use appropriate patterns and stuff. Not going to pass muster with hardcores but good for the filthy casual)

I have always disliked dressing up so i'm clueless regarding any such hobby, but if ~$1k costumes from a highly specialized store are only good enough for casuals, how the fuck do 'hardcores' purchase/produce muster-passing outfits and for how much? I'm curious if it's more or less than what furries throw around for their nasty-ass carpetbags.

Because Christine Daae and the fact that carrie wanted to be an opera singer, but all she took were classes at community college and at her first real audition she was told she was terrible and by the way how the hell has she not graduated yet, leading to the best response ever:

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NOBODY TOLD ME I HAD TO MAKE AN EFFORT?‽


So instead of doubling down on hard work, she pretended to injure her voice and tragically will NEVER SING AGAIN and then went on reddit to try and do AMAs about “I’m an opera singer who tragically lost her voice, ama!”

Unsurprisingly, few wanted to ask her anything.

This immediately reminded me of an Anne McCaffrey series The Crystal Singer in which the story begins with the lead being rejected from an opera academy for the universe's most talented singers because of an indelible burr in her voice that left her with only the hope of being a chorus member. In her rage, she flees all of known civilization and journeys to risk her life as a crystal singer, effectively a miner that uses a sonic drill requiring advanced singing technique but the planet drives everyone nutty.

The main difference is that the character in the story worked hard for her voice and then worked hard afterwards. Caroline is a lazy cunt who seems to derive an actual sexual thrill from being utterly useless. I've seen a lot of lazy cows, but I honestly think she has a sexual fetish for being a waste of human flesh. I don't even think she's a proper munchie, just appropriating munchie culture for justification of her uselessness.

All-in-all, I rate this thread a 0/10 for cow and 8/10 for education. Probably the most interesting beauty parlor thread I've seen, I'll have to explore more.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I have always disliked dressing up so i'm clueless regarding any such hobby, but if ~$1k costumes from a highly specialized store are only good enough for casuals, how the fuck do 'hardcores' purchase/produce muster-passing outfits and for how much? I'm curious if it's more or less than what furries throw around for their nasty-ass carpetbags.

Hardcores will only use materials and techniques that were available during the era they're interpreting. All handmade, real wool or silk or whatever, and only dyes that would have been available. Some insist on using only antique buttons to boot, or will only sew something by hand because sewing machines weren't available in 1850 or whatever. I don't have an estimate for costs but "astronomical" is a pretty good guess. For reproduction historic fabrics you're looking at $15 a yard or more, and a single piece of a costume can easily blow through 2-3 yards of fabric, more for really full skirts. For things like real leather, it can easily get up to $30 per square foot. Shoes, you're looking at $200+ depending on how authentic they go.

The people who make these costumes are usually either war reenactors who are willing to blow thousands over a long timeframe for their hobby the same way sneaker collectors or car enthusiasts keep sinking money into their thing, and/or people who make their living renting themselves out as a first-person interpreter/actor of a historic figure and wear the same costume over and over again.

Historical Emporium uses a lot of polyester and poly-blends, plastic for things like buttons, and some of their costumes have zippers which weren't available until the twentieth century, and all are machine-stitched.

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[Jeff Wolf]

Hardcores will only use materials and techniques that were available during the era they're interpreting. All handmade, real wool or silk or whatever, and only dyes that would have been available. Some insist on using only antique buttons to boot, or will only sew something by hand because sewing machines weren't available in 1850 or whatever. I don't have an estimate for costs but "astronomical" is a pretty good guess. For reproduction historic fabrics you're looking at $15 a yard or more, and a single piece of a costume can easily blow through 2-3 yards of fabric, more for really full skirts. For things like real leather, it can easily get up to $30 per square foot. Shoes, you're looking at $200+ depending on how authentic they go.

The people who make these costumes are usually either war reenactors who are willing to blow thousands over a long timeframe for their hobby the same way sneaker collectors or car enthusiasts keep sinking money into their thing, and/or people who make their living renting themselves out as a first-person interpreter/actor of a historic figure and wear the same costume over and over again.

Historical Emporium uses a lot of polyester and poly-blends, plastic for things like buttons, and some of their costumes have zippers which weren't available until the twentieth century, and all are machine-stitched.

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Wasn't the Victorian Era also the age of the Luddites? Maybe I'm remembering wrong but they broke sewing machines because it replaced the artisans. It was a time when the difference between the town drunk and the town cobbler was the ability to do labor while drunk because it was healthier to drink alcohol instead of the local water? Wasn't this also the time of the Rebecca Riots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Riots I think some of the troons would have loved that.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Wasn't the Victorian Era also the age of the Luddites? Maybe I'm remembering wrong but they broke sewing machines because it replaced the artisans. It was a time when the difference between the town drunk and the town cobbler was the ability to do labor while drunk because it was healthier to drink alcohol instead of the local water? Wasn't this also the time of the Rebecca Riots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Riots I think some of the troons would have loved that.

Luddites were earlier, 1810s, and they attacked mill machinery not sewing machines. Sewing machines came quite a bit later.

 

[lurk_moar]

It took me only eighteen months from beginning to end including summer semester to graduate from community college with my A.A.S degree. I heard about people earning an associates degree in three months because they took the CLEP exams and self studied. What is your excuse, Christine?

 

[theriddler3]

It took me only eighteen months from beginning to end including summer semester to graduate from community college with my A.A.S degree. I heard about people earning an associates degree in three months because they took the CLEP exams and self studied. What is your excuse, Christine?

I know of someone who got their associates degree before she turned 16 through dual enrollment classes, summer classes, and after school classes. She's not even a particularly bright person, either.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I know of someone who got their associates degree before she turned 16 through dual enrollment classes, summer classes, and after school classes. She's not even a particularly bright person, either.

Yeah, a lot of homeschool kids graduate from high school with an associates degree. Especially if it's a gen ed it's basically the collegiate version of babysitting.

 

[Otterly]

I don't have an estimate for costs but "astronomical" is a pretty good guess. For reproduction historic fabrics you're lookin

Mildly off on a tangent here... sorry
Stick some zeroes on. I sew - not historical stuff although I bet that’s fun and you’d learn a lot. Where I am, wool fabrics are easily 30 dollars a metre and upwards and cotton 15 up. I’ve no idea what metreage would be needed for a full Victorian outfit but eyeballing the layers I’m guessing 15-30 depending on layers and skirt fullness. Cottons, silks, god knows what’s involved in crinolines (weren’t a lot of them fire hazard cellulose?) And lots of it is by hand even if you’re sewing on a machine (of which I have four types...) plus hundreds of hours of work. Sewing is a lot of fun but time consuming and skilful. There’s a few cosplayers on sewing groups I’m in and their work varies but the high end stuff goes for thousands.

Tangent over. anyway, it’s skilled and probably beyond the level of arsedness of your average munchie.

Edited to add: there were machines before but the first mass produced domestic singer machines were 1850 ish. They still work if you can find one that’s been looked after.

 

[AbraCadaver]

So Carolina’s not been to the site since the 10th. I suppose the self-styled prima donna has flounced off to try her hand in some facebook munchie group, or slunk back to her Sims games after realizing she’s not nearly as clever as she thinks. Oh well, I suppose she’ll never have the glittering, dizzying paparazzi influencer life of posting videos of her bedroom on youtube and telling people how sick she is while they post “awww hun” and “you got this!”

Such tragedy, to reach so high for such lofty goals, only to fall short by the folly of fickle fortune, and by the fact that she’s a chubby, boring, mediocre nobody who’s too stupid to work a real job. Well, at least we all learned some interesting victorian facts, and that the average kiwi is a lot more educated than people realize. The average thread-seeking munchie, on the other hand, is just as dim as we all thought.

 

[A_right_horrorshow]

"Munchies? What a bunch of useless layabout cunts!"
Jane Austin

 

[Munchie_Minder]

So Carolina’s not been to the site since the 10th. I suppose the self-styled prima donna has flounced off to try her hand in some facebook munchie group, or slunk back to her Sims games after realizing she’s not nearly as clever as she thinks. Oh well, I suppose she’ll never have the glittering, dizzying paparazzi influencer life of posting videos of her bedroom on youtube and telling people how sick she is while they post “awww hun” and “you got this!”

Such tragedy, to reach so high for such lofty goals, only to fall short by the folly of fickle fortune, and by the fact that she’s a chubby, boring, mediocre nobody who’s too stupid to work a real job. Well, at least we all learned some interesting victorian facts, and that the average kiwi is a lot more educated than people realize. The average thread-seeking munchie, on the other hand, is just as dim as we all thought.

I predict she shall return. She thinks the storm has blown over, yet her IG posts have gotten increasingly back to her old munchie level. I posted an update on the munchie cow thread. I refuse to post it here because nobody has written her a bio and I don’t think this blase bish deserves her own thread. If Morgan “brain on Fire”/ fuck you kiwis Mccastor doesn’t get her own thread, then Carrie Quite Unliterary Kill Me In Solitary barely deserves a mention here.

 

[AbraCadaver]

I predict she shall return. She thinks the storm has blown over, yet her IG posts have gotten increasingly back to her old munchie level. I posted an update on the munchie cow thread. I refuse to post it here because nobody has written her a bio and I don’t think this blase bish deserves her own thread. If Morgan “brain on Fire”/ fuck you kiwis Mccastor doesn’t get her own thread, then Carrie Quite Unliterary Kill Me In Solitary barely deserves a mention here.

You looked at her IG? I thought she said she deleted it. I never bothered to check it out. I doubt she’ll come back, she’s realized instagram is her speed...she can delete comments and doxes there and keep up appearances and collect her paltry few arsepats to keep her ego alive. I think she’s decided that going somewhere where comments can’t be deleted is too much for her. If she ever does make the leap to youtube, she’ll have a comments battle everyday a la Chantal...if she gets any comments.

But as you said, she’s just too boring to stand out. I agree with merging her in the main munchie thread if she comes back, she doesn’t deserve her own thread.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Since we're Carrie posting on the main munchie thread I'm assuming that we can still Victorian sperg on this one.

there were machines before but the first mass produced domestic singer machines were 1850 ish. They still work if you can find one that’s been looked after.

I absolutely love Singer machines! I have one from 1960's and it still does the job today.

Also here's my favorite badass (late) Victorian lady https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_Markievicz
(The Victorian era wasn't a great time for Ireland)

 

[Munchie_Minder]

You looked at her IG? I thought she said she deleted it. I never bothered to check it out. I doubt she’ll come back, she’s realized instagram is her speed...she can delete comments and doxes there and keep up appearances and collect her paltry few arsepats to keep her ego alive. I think she’s decided that going somewhere where comments can’t be deleted is too much for her. If she ever does make the leap to youtube, she’ll have a comments battle everyday a la Chantal...if she gets any comments.

But as you said, she’s just too boring to stand out. I agree with merging her in the main munchie thread if she comes back, she doesn’t deserve her own thread.

I’m way too unexcited by her to go back and check what she said, but IIRC it was, “don’t share my info and I will stop posting fake stuff”. I guess because we doxxed her, she felt no need to stop. The actual cancer patients wanting to beat her ass apparently had very little bearing on her.

Since we're Carrie posting on the main munchie thread I'm assuming that we can still Victorian sperg on this one.

I absolutely love Singer machines! I have one from 1960's and it still does the job today.

Also here's my favorite badass (late) Victorian lady https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_Markievicz
(The Victorian era wasn't a great time for Ireland)

Yes, please continue the spergs on costuming. My late aunt was an amazing costume designer and did the sort of custom work that high end cosplayers and set designers would hire her for. She wasn’t famous, but I wish she had lived longer and gone to work the job offered to her for a major motion picture costume designer. All I know about these sorts of things are from her, and it isn’t much, so please continue!

 

[Otterly]

I absolutely love Singer machines! I have one from 1960's and it still does the job today.

Hang onto it! Build quality across almost all the brands has dropped significantly so that to get a metal bodied machine now you have to drop a couple of k. There was some sort of weird buy out of singer pfaff and Viking /husky a while back. I can’t remember the details but it was some sort of financial dodgy deal where they were bought as a tax dodge and production shifted to China. The vintage machines are well worth holding onto and keeping going.

Happy to hear any costume sperging.

 

[AbraCadaver]

Hang onto it! Build quality across almost all the brands has dropped significantly so that to get a metal bodied machine now you have to drop a couple of k. There was some sort of weird buy out of singer pfaff and Viking /husky a while back. I can’t remember the details but it was some sort of financial dodgy deal where they were bought as a tax dodge and production shifted to China. The vintage machines are well worth holding onto and keeping going.

Happy to hear any costume sperging.

I have an old Singer from the fifties, heavy as hell but works a treat. Far fewer problems than the new Husqvarna I have as well. Quality has gone to shite in machines lately.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

I have an old Singer from the fifties, heavy as hell but works a treat. Far fewer problems than the new Husqvarna I have as well. Quality has gone to shite in machines lately.

I inherited a husqvarna serger from my aunt and I can’t get the tension right and after about 50 hours of trying I’ve given up and it lives in my attic and has become a favorite place for stink bugs to nest. If any of you know kiwis know anything about entomology and deterring stink bugs OR setting tension on sergers, please feel free to elaborate!

 

[WarpedTourWasFun]

I have an old Singer from the fifties, heavy as hell but works a treat. Far fewer problems than the new Husqvarna I have as well. Quality has gone to shite in machines lately.

We have a really old one that belonged to my great-grandmother. It's not electric, it's opperated by manually pumping a lever with your foot in order to turn a crank/wheel on the side. It folds down into a table when not in use. It's pretty neat.
Unfortunately, being as old as it is, we can't just pop into JoAnns and pick up replacement parts, so it's not really functional for an actual sewing project.

 

[Angry New Ager]

I have an old Singer from the fifties, heavy as hell but works a treat. Far fewer problems than the new Husqvarna I have as well. Quality has gone to shite in machines lately.

Vintage (pre-1970s) sewing machines with all-metal parts turn up in thrift stores all the time, usually in decent working condition and for very little money. Singer (sometimes badged as New Home or Dressmaker), Kenmore, White, Pfaff, Necci, and Husqvarna machines are all worth picking up and learning how to do proper maintenance and minor repairs (which is not difficult). Owner's manuals can be found online, and missing parts frequently turn up on Ebay or dedicated vintage sewing machine groups.

My newest machine was originally my mom's, bought in 1973; it's a Singer of the first generation to have plastic cams instead of metal--thus, I won't replace it when it dies, but it's still doing light-duty work just fine, which is something no Singer produced today will be doing 46 years hence.

Since old machines follow me home like stray cats, I currently have about a dozen of them (down from ~20), mostly Singers and Kenmores from the late 1940s to the early '60s. I've started to sell off the ones I either don't use often enough to justify keeping around, or that are brands other than Singer or Kenmore (too many brands is just too many parts to keep track of).

My workhorse machine is a Singer from 1915, but last month I bought a treadle Singer from 1886 in its original table. It's in shitty condition, but this coming winter I'll restore it and get it running once more. Then I can keep on sewing even after the power grid crashes during the Apocalypse.

The great thing about old cast-metal machines is that they're mechanically so simple you can easily learn to fix and maintain them yourself, even if you've always sworn you weren't the mechanical type. And, well cared-for, they will just keep going on forever.

 

[AbraCadaver]

I inherited a husqvarna serger from my aunt and I can’t get the tension right and after about 50 hours of trying I’ve given up and it lives in my attic and has become a favorite place for stink bugs to nest. If any of you know kiwis know anything about entomology and deterring stink bugs OR setting tension on sergers, please feel free to elaborate!

Don’t know much about stink bugs but i had the same problem with my newer serger...turns out i was using regular cotton thread that snapped often. Have you tried Sulky cones for serger machines?