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I hope people recognize Chris as that MAN who raped his mother and complain about his presence in public places.
Chris - The Legal Issues - A Prosecutor's Perspective
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Smleman303
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I have question for @Alexander Hamilton So today I've seen people who believe the Bella info makes it look like Chris didn't rape his mother. My counter was Chris would not have been held this long if so. What did they likely find to get this far to make that unlikely?
Alexander Hamilton
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Well, for one, they found Barb. While the DNA doesn't come back anywhere near this fast, people better informed than I on medical matters have said that because of her advanced age there would be observable physical trauma to the vaginal walls and so on. Perhaps more evidence also, if Chris bathes her as infrequently as he bathes himself and assuming the every three day schedule for sexual activities. She may also have told them some things.
And for another, they found Chris. And Chris definitely told them some things because it's Chris.
I can't say what they have. But I can say given that Chris has a very good court appointed attorney and the Judge held him without bond - they have something.
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If we believe what Chris wrote in the logs to be a factual account, during the act he used condoms, which could make finding DNA evidence a bit tricky in the rape kit.
However, given the typically unkept state of 17BC, there could be possibility of finding the used condoms in their garbage, which they could likely test the interior for CWC and the exterior for Barb, which I would think could be some strong evidence, if they can obtain a search warrant.
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@Alexander Hamilton question for you: what's the likelihood of Chris ending up in civil commitment after he serves his prison term? Are you aware of any statutes in Virginia that mandate it, or is it one of those states that abolished it altogether?
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How often have you ever seen anyone get actual max? I always have to tell my clients considering pleas that yes, the max sentence on this misdo, which the judge could theoretically give you if they were to reject the plea agreement, is 1 year, but I've never seen anyone get anywhere close to the max. But you guys run through way more cases than we do, at least by proximity and covering appearances for others in the office, unless we're the most overworked PD of all time, so I figured you might have a bit more insight.
Alexander Hamilton
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Unlikely. Virginia has civil commitment but they must be convinced you're a serious danger moving forward. They tried to get rid of it at the beginning of this year but it went nowhere.
Here's an overview of how it works:
https://www.oag.state.va.us/divisio...y/sexually-violent-predators-civil-commitment
And here's an article from Texas that actually takes you through a sample case using their procedure
Coming to a courtroom near you: sexually violent predators | Texas District & County Attorneys Association
Imagine that it’s 8 o’clock Monday morning. Sitting on your desk is a stack of about a hundred documents with a cover letter that reads, “Pursuant to Texas Health & Safety Code §841.023(b)…
www.tdcaa.com
It's rare. It's even more rare when you're talking about a Judge doing the sentencing. The primary place I see it is from juries on murder cases.
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Apropos of nothing, here's an example of how dumb and fucked Virginia's probation and post release system is, and with some examples of how little time you may actually serve in VA.
Parole board supervisor unilaterally ends the parole of many highly violent criminals including multiple time murderers after serving as little as a year on parole
Notice that when Alexander Hamilton says someone may get 5 of the 10, in VA they may get 5 years- but their judgment will read as "Five years, suspend all but one year, and to be released to supervision for three years under the following conditions". They will serve one year, receiving pretrial credit in the process, and if they remain on good behavior after their release the remainder of the suspended sentence is terminated at the end of supervision.
(Note these numbers are just examples, not meant to predict any sentencing)
Additionally, this past year Virginia rolled out a law allowing inmates to parole out at around 65% of their time served instead of 85% (going from memory but I think that used to be their cutoff). That doesnt take effect until 2022, but it is retroactive. Once in effect, the calculations will compute so that up to 14000 inmates will be eligible for immediate release.
Chris may not be allowed to work a "job" to gain additional time (provided that is a thing for his conviction under VA law) due to his idiocy, but nobody ever gets the max- and in reality, even the max is never the max.
And that's assuming he doesn't get straight probation- but as this drags on I continue to double back to the idea that the prosecution has more than is public knowledge, which was always the wild card here. This doesn't "smell" like a weak case.
Parole board supervisor unilaterally ends the parole of many highly violent criminals including multiple time murderers after serving as little as a year on parole
Notice that when Alexander Hamilton says someone may get 5 of the 10, in VA they may get 5 years- but their judgment will read as "Five years, suspend all but one year, and to be released to supervision for three years under the following conditions". They will serve one year, receiving pretrial credit in the process, and if they remain on good behavior after their release the remainder of the suspended sentence is terminated at the end of supervision.
(Note these numbers are just examples, not meant to predict any sentencing)
Additionally, this past year Virginia rolled out a law allowing inmates to parole out at around 65% of their time served instead of 85% (going from memory but I think that used to be their cutoff). That doesnt take effect until 2022, but it is retroactive. Once in effect, the calculations will compute so that up to 14000 inmates will be eligible for immediate release.
Chris may not be allowed to work a "job" to gain additional time (provided that is a thing for his conviction under VA law) due to his idiocy, but nobody ever gets the max- and in reality, even the max is never the max.
And that's assuming he doesn't get straight probation- but as this drags on I continue to double back to the idea that the prosecution has more than is public knowledge, which was always the wild card here. This doesn't "smell" like a weak case.
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Cops don't just arrest you based on "hey I saw this thing on the Internet." They went to the house and whatever they saw convinced them they needed to get Chris the fuck out of it immediately, and then whatever they found by talking to Barb, and whatever the results of the medical examination, they decided he needed to be arrested immediately and held without bond.
Chris described his mom crying when he was raping her as "tears of joy" to Bella, after already admitting she told him to stop. That really shows him to be a danger to anyone vulnerable around him. It's a rather chilling admission.
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From what I understand, being held without bond in the US is a very serious issue. It's not like in UK or France where they can arrest you for calling someone a man on Twitter. Especially in the South where they love to complain about rights being taken away.
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Another half-conspiracy theory I had in one of the original threads was, besides retail therapy, he wanted to see Godbear again, as the Regency Square Mall is where “Christian” came to be. Hell, others even were concerned CWC might an-hero there (ending the story of CWC in the shadow of Godbear and where “Christian’s” story began).
I don't think he just raped Barb, I think he likely destroyed what remained of her gunt sized vag in the process. Know Chris, he likely falcon punched that cootch.
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I think his case is pretty exceptional because he's not allowed to be at the house where he was staying, he's financially broke, and even his extended family wont let him stay with them, so if anything, they're doing him a favor by holding him without bond (which he wouldn't be able to pay anyways). If they didn't do that, the law would have a hell of a time trying to track him down at the homeless shelter whenever he's not able to make it (or decides he doesn't want to go) to court.
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That's simply not true. That would probably be a form of discrimination. They can't just refuse you bail because you're a vagrant. Please, stop trying to minimize the nature of having bail revoked.
wildgoose
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I'm not sure that they've actually revoked his bail. From what I understand, I think it's postponed and they're going to do a review hearing of some kind to figure out how it's going to work. I think it probably didn't help that Chris chose not to answer when asked about his plans for bail.
I just think the fact that he was ripped from his home and forbidden from being there really complicates things.
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Hmm, until a preliminary court hearing. I thought it was revoked.
wildgoose
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Okay so, here's what we know.
Apparently, that *was* the actual bond hearing
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I know this isn't A&H but this just reads like bog standard pilpul kike word magic. If you use wordplay to obscure the truth you can justify anything.
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FTFY
And , i agree.