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CMCW said:
Me, No. I'm not that involved in making the docu except i'm friends with Joseph and tried to contact people to see if they wanted to talk on Chris in the Documentry. Everyone we talked to thus far has expressed interest in being included to talk Chris and the Sagas, they never asked to be paid but if the kickstarter gets funded we would try to interview them in person and make sure they are compensated.

Joseph is just a regular guy who went to film school years ago and never got to make anything and he wanted to make his first film. We got lucky approaching Chris and got more access than we really anticipated, and because of that we thought we'd try a kickstarter.

We paid everyone for their time and they would get a cut of proceeds if the film makes any money.
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Out of curiosity, did Joseph look at some of the other successful film/video Kickstarter campaigns? I know I'm probably granting this project more benefit of the doubt than others here (the filmmakers have secured interviews with Chris, Barb, and Megan, after all), but there is an alarming lack of information in the campaign details that should have been filled out before it was launched, especially if the film deals with one of the most notoriously manipulated figures in Internet history. The fact that no attempts are made to dispel the notion that this project is a scam is stunningly naive. The FAQ section should be full of information, and a pie chart detailing where the money is going. And if most of the footage is already shot, you should probably show off a couple of edited sequences (a couple of minutes each) to demonstrate the tone this movie is to take. As others have said, there needs to be far more transparency going on here.
 
Shabobus said:
When was that bit with Megan filmed? Chris recently said he was going to visit her, and she told him to back off. Was it before or after that? I'm honestly surprised she agreed to participate.
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Everything was filmed just last week with a couple months of planning before hand. Joseph was there for Chris's last court appearance and watched the release of the Ghost video with him.
 
CMCW said:
It's obviously Megan.


Because the project is catered to people who probably already know Chris and know what a documentary entails, can see the trailer and put two and two together. If you were scammed, we wouldn't be sitting on all this footage lol. If anything we scammed ourselves if the kickstarter doesn't make any money, and we still finish a docu with what we got. That's understood in doing this but we figured we'd try it.
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Bruh, listen for a second, I'm trying to help you here.
Instead of half-assing the info on the Kickstarter why don't you actually put some effort. because it doesn't matter how much people know Chris, they see this incomplete Kickstarter page and it looks unprofessional and like a bad investment. Even if you're not a scammer, you look like one with a page like this.
First, rewrite that description; explain what people are getting (what is going to be discussed in this documentary? who is involved/stars in it? is this digital release only?)
go into detail on who you guys are as filmmakers (what projects you've done before, what equipment you used to make this)
explain what you will spend the money on (show a budget, how much is going to travel, crew costs, chandler's cut)
All this stuff you are coming here and saying, should have already been on the Kickstarter!

Second, fix those risks and challenges; what's going to happen if you don't get your funding? what could go wrong in the filming? what is going to prevent you from finishing the project?

Third, write your own reward tiers: do you truly believe a digital copy of this is worth $20? $250 for "access to new clips of Chris" are you fucking kidding me? No-one is crazy enough to pay for the high-tier rewards, and there aren't reasonable low tier rewards to entice people. That's why nobody has donated anything more than a $1 yet. Do something for $5, $10 and $50. Those should be the name on credits, the extra clips, maybe a physical copy of the film, behind the scenes, poster, anything!

Last, redo that video; add more to it, have your director show up on camera and explain the project, who they are, explain who Chris Chan is anyways, talk about who you have planned to interview, how much you've already spend on this film. Don't rely on the audience to assume everything for you.

fuck guys, this is amateur.
 
CMCW said:
We got to film in his house, get a new house tour, met Barb, got a interview with her. A lot of the film will be from their perspective, while we anticipated people who have already talked and described the sagas, can talk about those because they really understand them better than Chris. And obviously we got a interview with Megan.
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And it can be all ours for 20 grand? Amazing.
 
CMCW said:
Access meaning, Chris was really interested in helping out once we got filming and he gave us things like the fabled "Master Copy" of I'm On TV! and the director's cut, without us asking. We got to film in his house, get a new house tour, met Barb, got a interview with her. A lot of the film will be from their perspective, while we anticipated people who have already talked and described the sagas, can talk about those because they really understand them better than Chris. And obviously we got a interview with Megan.

If you guys like the idea of the docu or not, we still made sure to consider some of your questions and what not in the process. So i mean we are working with a lot of stuff and there is new stuff in there we know you guys will like. Not saying buy it or donate, but i think some of you would find it an interesting watch.
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A lot of the Trolls from the formative era of Chris-chan trolling post here. So ask people like @Marvin if they'd like to contribute. That way you get both sides of the story.
 
CMCW said:
Everything was filmed just last week with a couple months of planning before hand. Joseph was there for Chris's last court appearance and watched the release of the Ghost video with him.
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Okay, but are you able to show us the budget information? The film seems interesting, but why the fuck do you need 20k dollars for it, and have the audacity to not show us the budget, when like everyone has said earlier, there are tons of free documentaries on YouTube. More people would be willing to pay if you at least give the budget as an explainer as to why this shit costs 20k fucking dollars.
 
Colmerry said:
People are slowly funding this. Six whole backers so far. Scary.
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It looks "amazing" and "high quality" only in that this dude has a good camera and knows basic rules of cinematography. Anyone can make a trailer look good, there are entire companies dedicated to doing just that. It doesn't tell us shit about what the final product might be like.

God, these retards deserve to lose their fucking money.
 
I don't know why you fags are jumping down this guys throat when we're getting brand new Chris content. Actual content straight from the horses mouth and not we3n influenced garbage like you all complain about. If the doc sucks then it sucks but we still get to see Chris do shit. You dont have to donate
 
zap2theextreme said:
I don't know why you fags are jumping down this guys throat when we're getting brand new Chris content. Actual content straight from the horses mouth and not we3n influenced garbage like you all complain about. If the doc sucks then it sucks but we still get to see Chris do shit. You dont have to donate
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Because this no-talent film school drop out faggot is trying to take people's money when this is already a poorly thought out mess? Sure, new Chris content. Great. Whatever, the problem is that he's trying to raise twenty thousand dollars for something like this.

Nothing says "I did nothing after film school" like using that fucking song in your crowdfunded documentary.
 
Someone in a Tree said:
Out of curiosity, did Joseph look at some of the other successful film/video Kickstarter campaigns? I know I'm probably granting this project more benefit of the doubt than others here (the filmmakers have secured interviews with Chris, Barb, and Megan, after all), but there is an alarming lack of information in the campaign details that should have been filled out before it was launched, especially if the film deals with one of the most notoriously manipulated figures in Internet history. The fact that no attempts are made to dispel the notion that this project is a scam is stunningly naive. The FAQ section should be full of information, and a pie chart detailing where the money is going. And if most of the footage is already shot, you should probably show off a couple of edited sequences (a couple of minutes each) to demonstrate the tone this movie is to take. As others have said, there needs to be far more transparency going on here.
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We can still edit the campaign and elaborate more. I asked Joseph about the FAQ. He said why would i write that nobodies asked us any questions yet lol. I get there's a lot of room to elaborate and we can work on that tonight with some of the stuff i seen here. But i AM okay with answering questions here and if they're that important i'll try to reflect that in the kickstarter.

We didn't manipulate Chris or Barb in anyway, or Megan. We approached them with a Shoe-string budget out of pocket and said if it makes anything back we can give them more. Someone said Daddy's credit card, eh more like Tax Return budget lol and it has already taken some lodging/travel expenses and some ADR equipment.

We are not in a editing phase really, Our proof on concept is basically the trailer right now. We still want to collect interviews at this point, and we could do that with or without a budget but were trying with a budget. I don't anticipate it taking long to make this film once we get all our interviews. If kickstarter fails, i think it will still come out good.
 
Inpetus said:
Because this no-talent film school drop out faggot is trying to take people's money when this is already a poorly thought out mess? Sure, new Chris content. Great. Whatever, the problem is that he's trying to raise twenty thousand dollars for something like this.
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It looks like they've already recorded quite a bit of footage and got actual people like Megan from Chris' past to interview, which is more thought out than any of the dozen other CWC docs that just retread the same CWCki articles over and over again.
 
Inpetus said:
So why the fuck, rather than trying to crowdfund a documentary from some film school drop out that nobody has ever heard of, wouldn't you try and contact someone like Geno and maybe try to collab with him? At least people KNOW Geno's work and know it's high quality, and he does that on a budget of nothing. I still fail to see why this is worth twenty thousand fucking dollars more than Geno's work.

Twenty thousand dollars for the first piece of work from a filmmaker that has never made anything in his life. There are people who have actually MADE THINGS that ask for less money than that.

Seriously, explain it to me. Why is this worth twenty thousand dollars? Where is the cost break down? Where is the budget? If it exists, why is it not on the Kickstarter? You lot haven't planned shit, have you?
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You talk like a poor person. The product is worth what people are willing to pay for it.
 
CMCW said:
I don't anticipate it taking long to make this film once we get all our interviews.
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Nigga if anything proves that you people have no experience in the film industry, it's this sentence. But whatever, let Chris' autistic orbiters fund this shit show.
 
CMCW said:
We can still edit the campaign and elaborate more. I asked Joseph about the FAQ. He said why would i write that nobodies asked us any questions yet lol. I get there's a lot of room to elaborate and we can work on that tonight with some of the stuff i seen here. But i AM okay with answering questions here and if they're that important i'll try to reflect that in the kickstarter.
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It's not just about the FAQ, it's about all the information on the Kickstarter page. Add all the information. It looks unprofessional.
 
zap2theextreme said:
I don't know why you fags are jumping down this guys throat when we're getting brand new Chris content.
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There's a difference between Chris sperging by its own and these vveens wannabe scam artists. These dudes could have chosen ANY subject, ANY contemporary figure to make their project but decided to make a dossier on the most toxic autist in the planet. There's a reason for the "Do not pozload my neghole" rule, you know?

They're not only touching it, they're trying to profit out of it. Chris needs to be left alone because every time he tries to succeed at anything, he inevitably sinkes deeper and deeper into depression, debt, madness or falls for the most obvious scammers out there.
 
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