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New Delhi: India has "admitted" that its soldiers crossed into Chinese territory, claimed China's Foreign Minister today, demanding that Delhi must "conscientiously withdraw" its troops that moved across the border in Sikkim early in June.

India and Bhutan have repeatedly said that the area China is claiming as its own belongs to Bhutan, a stand refuted by Beijing in the midst of a lengthy and tense border dispute.



"Even senior Indian officials have openly stated that Chinese troops did not enter into the Indian territory. "In other words, the Indian side admitted to entering the Chinese territory," said Foreign Minister Wang Yi commenting for the first time over the standoff between the troops from the two countries.


China claims that last month, Indian troops illegally transgressed the borderat the mountainous state of Sikkim to stop Chinese soldiers from building a road on a plateau it refers to as Donglang. The same region is called Doklam by Bhutan and India. Delhi has said it had warned China that the road it was undertaking would be treated as a serious security concern. Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj explained to parliament last week that the road seeks to change the balance of power at the crucial tri-junction which hosts the borders of India, Tibet and Bhutan. Describing this as unacceptable, she said that both countries should pull back their troops to allow talks on a solution.

Since the border dispute began, China has held that it will not allow any dialoguetill India moves back its soldiers, but it has, in recent days, ceded that diplomatic contacts remain open and in use, a fact that India has emphasized.

National Security Adviser Ajit Doval travels later this week to Beijing for a meeting of top officials from BRICS, which brings together Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. Neither China nor India have ruled out a one-on-one meeting between Mr Doval and his counterpart, which could yield a breakthrough.

The road China wants to build gives it access to the "Chicken's Neck" - a thin stretch of land that links mainland India to northeastern states including Sikkim.

Chinese officials and its state-run media have been issuing aggressive warnings to India with talk of increased deployment of troops to Doklam and the possibility of a war if India does not back down. Delhi has refused to be baited by the rhetoric.
 
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Apparently last month China destroyed a Indian base killing 158 in a artillery barrage but I couldn't find any sources other than some shady Indian sites.

They also routinely lob shells against Pakistan (a Chinese Ally and India's most hated enemy.)

I wonder which side will Putin and trump support
 
Good. Let China and India destroy each other. Bonus points for Pakistan.

Make Mumbai Bombay again! Make Manchuria Manchukuo again!
 
Looks like the PC game Civilization wasn't too wrong about India after all!
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-warns-indian-troops-contested-region-030009853.html

With live-fire drill, China warns India not to test Beijing

BEIJING (AP) — Beijing is intensifying its warnings to Indian troops to get out of a contested region high in the Himalayas where China, India and Bhutan meet, saying China's "restraint has its limits" and publicizing live-fire drills in Tibet.

Indian troops entered the area in the Doklam Plateau in June after New Delhi's ally, Bhutan, complained a Chinese military construction party was building a road inside Bhutan's territory.


Beijing says Doklam is located in Tibet and that the border dispute between China and Bhutan has nothing to do with India. It has demanded that Indian troops withdraw before any talks.

On Friday, China Central Television broadcast video it said showed an army unit in an unidentified part of Tibet carrying out live-fire firing exercises in the past few days.

A commander sitting in a vehicle shouted "3, 2, 1, fire!" into two telephones and a missile was launched into the sky. Troops were shown loading and firing other missiles, some of which landed in fiery explosions.

The report, which was also carried in other state media, didn't mention the dispute with India, and said the unit has been training for three months.

It appeared to be an attempt to increase pressure on India, however, along with strongly worded statements this week from China's foreign and defense ministries, as well as in state media.

"China has made it clear that there is no room for negotiation and the only solution is the unconditional and immediate withdrawal of Indian troops from the region," said a commentary Friday by the official Xinhua News Agency.

"If China backs down now, India may be emboldened to make more trouble in the future," it added.

Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Ren Guoqiang said Thursday that while Chinese armed forces had shown "utmost goodwill" and a "high level of restraint" in the face of the Indian troops, "restraint has its limits."

"No country should underestimate the Chinese forces' confidence and capability to safeguard peace and their resolve and willpower to defend national sovereignty, security and development interests," Ren said in a statement.

China and Bhutan have been holding talks over their border dispute since the 1980s and Bhutan feared the road construction would affect the process of drawing their boundary. India said its troops were attempting to urge the Chinese forces not to change the status quo and that any construction would have "serious security implications for India."

In New Delhi, External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj told Parliament on Thursday that India was concerned about China's actions affecting the tri-junction boundary point between Bhutan, China and India as well as the India-China border.

She said India would "keep engaging with China to resolve the dispute."

"War is not a solution to anything," Swaraj said. "Patience, control on comments and diplomacy can resolve problems."

Experts in India say that by building the road, China may be able to gain access to a narrow strip of Indian land known as the Siliguri Corridor or Chicken's Neck. If China was able to block the corridor, it would isolate India's northeast from the rest of the country.

China's Foreign Ministry issued a document Wednesday setting out what it called "the facts" about Indian troops "trespassing" in Chinese territory, calling on India to immediately and unconditionally withdraw and saying Beijing would work with Bhutan to resolve the boundary issue.

The document says that as of the end of July, more than 40 Indian border troops remained, down from more than 270 with weapons and two bulldozers who advanced more than 100 meters (yards) into Chinese territory on June 16.

In editorials this week, the ruling Communist Party's People's Daily said Indian officials and media had "concocted all kinds of groundless excuses" for the incursion.

If the dispute drags on into September, it would hang awkwardly over a meeting of the BRICS major emerging economies, including China and India, to be held in the southeastern Chinese city of Xiamen.

"India thought wrongly that China would tolerate its actions because the meeting is going to be held soon," said Chu Yin, a researcher at the Center for China and Globalization, a Beijing think tank.

"If India retreats now, China will save it from further embarrassment."
 
Update: https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-considering-military-action-against-091453286.html

China Considering Military Action Against India: Report

Newsweek • Josh Lowe • 13 hours ago

Two combative articles published in China’s state-run Global Times newspaper have raised fears of military clashes in the disputed Doklam region that lies at the junction between China, Bhutan and India.

Since June 16, when Indian forces sought to prevent China from building a road in a part of the plateau claimed by Bhutan, the two powers have been locked in a standoff in the region. Now, the Times of Indiareports, a top Chinese academic has written in the state organ that China is planning a "small-scale military operation to expel Indian troops within two weeks.”

Hu Zhiyong, a research fellow at the Institute of International Relations at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, wrote in the Global Times : “China will not allow the military standoff between China and India in Doklam to last for too long, and there may be a small-scale military operation to expel Indian troops within two weeks."

Hu added that the "Chinese side will inform the Indian foreign ministry before its operation," but gave no source for his claims.

A Global Times editorial on Saturday, meanwhile, accused India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi of “gambling” his country’s destiny.

"It is a war with an obvious result," the editorial said. "PM Narendra Modi should be aware of the [Chinese army]'s overwhelming firepower and logistics. Indian border troops are no rival to [Chinese] field forces. If a war spreads, the [army] is perfectly capable of annihilating all Indian troops in the border region," the daily said.


The editorial further said, "Modi government's hard line stance is sustained by neither laws nor strength. This administration is recklessly breaking international norms and jeopardising India's national pride and peaceful development."

“Restraint has a bottom line,” the editorial warned.

The road China is trying to build leads towards the Indian border and could prove strategically useful to the east Asian superpower.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/says-china-countdown-war-india-113220364.html

China Says Countdown For War With India Has Begun
International Business Times • Shubham Kishore • 12 hours ago
The relationship between India and China seemed to worsen Wednesday when the Chinese Foreign Ministry said that 53 people and an Indian bulldozer was in China's territory and advised India to pull them back. This followed a warning Tuesday when an editorial in the state-run China Daily said that the "countdown to a clash between the two forces has begun."

"India should withdraw its troops and equipment. Regardless of how many Indian troops have trespassed into and stayed in Chinese territory, they have gravely infringed on China's sovereignty," the ministry said, the Global Times reported.


The China Daily editorial said the clock was ticking and that it seemed like a clash would be “an inevitable conclusion” between the two prominent Asian countries if India did pull back its troops from the disputed Doklam region.

The article referred to a border standoff between the two countries that has continued for over two months. The controversy began when India opposed China’s plan to extend a border road through a disputed plateau which Bhutan says is its Doklam region and China claims as part of its Donglang region.

India and Bhutan have historically maintained strong relations. The Indian Army is involved in training the Royal Bhutan Army, while Bhutan cooperates closely with India in determining its foreign policy. India has expressed concern that the road, if completed, would make it easier for China to access India's northeastern states. In the event of a conflict, India fears this would help China cut off its northeast from the rest of the country, the BBC reported.

The editorial on Tuesday said that while Beijing had tried time and again to avoid conflict and warned India on several occasions, India has refrained from pulling back its troops. "Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear will have got the message. Yet New Delhi refuses to come to its senses and pull its troops back to its own side of the border," it stated.

According to the newspaper, a spokesman for China's Ministry of Defense warned India not to underestimate the Chinese army and that there was a “bottom line” to the restraint that China had shown. It added that “India’s audacity” to challenge China might have come from the fact that India was suffering from a sense of insecurity and inferiority faced with China’s increasing prominence in the region.

While China has warned India about consequences of not pulling back its army, India does not look like it is backing down. Speaking in India’s parliament on Wednesday, Defense Minister Arun Jaitley said the country was ready to meet any challenge. Referring to the war that took place in 1962 between the two countries, which India lost, Jaitley said the country had learned many lessons from it.

"Some people are targeting our country's sovereignty and integrity. But I am fully confident that our brave soldiers have capability to keep our country secure, may it be challenges on the eastern border or the western border," he said, according toreports.

China and India share a border that extends 2,174 miles. Following the war in 1962, disputes in areas like Aksai Chin, Depsang Plains and some areas in the northeast Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, have remained unresolved.

Tibet’s spiritual leader the Dalai Lama, who resides in India, has also been a sticking point between the two countries. Speaking on the issue the Dalai Lama on Wednesday emphasized that talks are the only solution. "I do not think it is very serious. India and China have to live side by side." He said, according to reports.
 
First the US vs the Norks and now India.

China's really got their hands full, don't they?
 
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