CN China has another solution to its shrinking population: robots - China’s birth rate has hit a historic low – deepening fears of a major economic shock in the decades to come as the country’s massive labor force dwindles and its population of pension-drawing retirees swells.

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A girl views products at robot-maker Unitree's physical experience store in Beijing in December.

Beijing — China’s birth rate has hit a historic low – deepening fears of a major economic shock in the decades to come as the country’s massive labor force dwindles and its population of pension-drawing retirees swells.

A flurry of policies from Chinese authorities to spur procreation – from cash handouts and tax breaks to new rules making marriage easier – has so far failed to stop the downward slide, data released last month shows.

But the country is also eyeing another potential fix: robots and automation.

Chinese leader Xi Jinping has for years overseen a push to upgrade and automate the country’s manufacturing sector, part of Beijing’s goal to transform China into a self-sufficient high-tech powerhouse.

That push is now converging with Beijing’s rush to address the rebalancing of its population, which, if unaddressed, threatens to break the pension system, drive up families’ health care costs and crush productivity – dragging down faith in public institutions and economic output in one swoop.

“If (China) just carries on exactly the same as it has been in the last 20 or 30 years, then it’s going to be a massive crisis, because of the mismatch between their population system and their economic system – but why would they do that?” said Stuart Gietel-Basten, a demography expert at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology.

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A toddler hangs out on a swing at a park in China's Fuyang city in January.

If handled well, experts say, China’s push into automation and AI – alongside other adaptations – could go a long way to help stop economic growth from falling off a demographic cliff – at least for decades to come.

But managing a high-tech transition – one that would cost people jobs in the short term and change the nature of work in the long term – is a steep challenge for governments around the world. Let alone in a country of 1.4 billion people that built decades of growth on the back of its expansive workforce.

And the stakes are particularly high for a ruling Communist Party that has pegged its legitimacy to economic stability and aims to make China a “mid-level developed country” within the next decade.

How Beijing prepares now will have long-term implications for the global economy and on generations to come, experts say, and that’s not just about trying to arrest falling birth rates.

“If China can achieve sustained gains in labor productivity through robots, digitalization and AI, then it can maintain – or increase – industrial output with fewer workers on the factory floor,” said Guojun He, an economics professor at the University of Hong Kong.

That means “automation can significantly mitigate, but not completely neutralize, the economic impact of a shrinking workforce, especially in industrial production.” But those impacts will be different across industries – and require a “combination of policies” from education to social security to land well, he added.


Robot revolution

China is already by far the world’s largest industrial robot market and home to more than half of all robots installed worldwide in 2024, according to the International Federation of Robotics.

Across the country, robotic arms work in concert to weld, paint and assemble goods in highly automated lines, or even in “dark” factories, where there’s no need to waste electricity keeping on the lights for human eyes.

High levels of automation are what’s enabling Chinese factories to pump out cutting-edge electric vehicles and solar panels at large scale and low prices – driving their soaring trade surplus with the rest of the world.

Beijing is also betting heavily on humanoid robots, with more than 140 companies in China now developing them in a field flush with government subsidies.

So far, these humanoids are most visible as showpieces of China’s tech ambitions, dancing in formation on televised specials and duking it out at promotional boxing matches.

But some have already been piloted on assembly lines, in logistics hubs and in science labs. Their developers say they are still a ways off, but getting closer to matching human productivity in tasks like handling, sorting, and quality inspection.

All this is part of a top-down push to ensure China keeps its competitive advantage in a new era of high tech and rising labor costs, outlined in the government’s “Made in China 2025” plan released in 2015 – the same year Beijing decided to scrap its controversial, decades-long “one-child” population control regime.

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While the looming population crunch may not have been the driving force behind the industrial policy, voices within China have framed automation, robotics and AI as tools to mitigate its harms.

“Since the population numbers are starting to turn against China, this idea of automation, and now AI … has become part of the script of … ‘We’re going to have all this productivity increase and therefore (population decline) won’t matter,’” said Bert Hofman, a professor at the East Asian Institute at the National University Singapore and former World Bank country director for China.


Aging population

That official vision includes robots not just as factory workers, but as caregivers to the burgeoning population of adults over 60, who now make up 23% of the population but could account for more than half by 2100, per United Nations projections.

The urgent need to expand systems to care for those aging adults is compounded by the legacy of the “one-child” policy, which created a generation of only children who will care for parents without siblings to share the burden.

Recent government guidelines have called for advancing humanoid robots and AI technologies to enhance elder care, as well as developing brain-computer interfaces, exoskeleton robots and muscle suits to assist elderly citizens with declining physical functions.

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Two elderly women meet in a square in Chongqing in January.

State media regularly highlights ambitions of rolling out humanoid robots to help older adults with around-the-clock caregiving – perhaps a bid to make more people open to the idea.

Another concern is the state-backed pension system, which many elderly Chinese rely on and predictions suggest could move into deficit as the population ages without more reform.

Here too, the “race between technology advancement and population aging,” could have a bearing, according to Tianzeng Xu, a China analyst with the Economist Intelligence Unit.

If tech progress can significantly boost labor productivity then, in theory, each worker would be able to contribute more to the system even when there are more retirees to support, Xu said.

“Provided the former outpaces the latter by certain margins, the improvement of labor productivity is still possible to keep our pension system afloat.”


Pitfalls in the productivity race

But it’s uncertain how exactly all that will play out, not just for a strained pension system, but the economy at large – especially in the latter half of the century when the demographic decline deepens considerably.

“In this race between population decline and productivity increase, China (stays) well ahead until the 2070s when labor force decline is going to be more rapid than productivity increase,” said Hofman, citing projections based on OECD long-term scenarios.

Even still, he added, it’s hard to say how fundamentally new technologies will change work – and “productivity may very well surprise us.”

The other side of that coin is how the high-tech transition will affect the workforce, as making a country more productive doesn’t mean that more people have jobs; it could just mean fewer people do more.

China is already facing a double bind of labor shortages in some sectors and unemployment in others. Even if tech-boosted productivity can stabilize the economy over time, it could first deepen that economic pain.

Estimates for how many workers could be displaced by AI and robots in China vary, but domestic experts have estimated that this tech could affect around 70% of China’s manufacturing sector. Last month, officials said they would roll out a set of policy measures to address the impact of its rapid adoption on jobs.

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Job seekers visit a job fair held by the Hong Kong Labour Department last year.

“The timing issue is very important – in the long term, automation is part of the solution to a smaller workforce. In the short-to-medium term, if not managed well, it risks displacing workers who do not yet have clear alternative opportunities, adding to social and political pressures,” said He in Hong Kong.

Managing this requires a “serious investment in reskilling and upskilling,” so that ordinary workers and technicians can move from repetitive manual work to working with automated systems or moving into higher-value services, he said.

It will also require stronger social security policies to support workers as they change jobs, locations or sectors or face unemployment, He added.

And overall, experts stress automation is just one part of a range of measures besides pro-birth policies that Beijing can take to mitigate the economic and social impact of the deepening demographic shift.

Along with investing in education to give workers better skills, those also include continuing to reform the pension system (which saw the retirement age raised for the first time in 2024) and efforts to keep people in formal work longer, according Philip O’Keefe, a professor at the Centre for Population Ageing Research at Australia’s University of New South Wales.

“While no doubt the very low birth rate will have big implications for society, the decline in total and working age population will happen over time, with time to adjust,” he said.




Hoisted by their own petard.

Why can't they import a billion immigrants like the rest of the world does?

:thinking:
 
The worst outcome possible still beats importing shitskins into your country.
China has too large of a population for this to work anyway. If every immigrant in the US moved to China, they would make up about 3% of the population. I do believe China will begin to take in higher African immigration in the future, but even this will be a drop in the bucket.
 
If the Japs couldn't make robot waifu utopia work, the chinks have no sense with their temu version. Robotics turned out to be a massive bottleneck in making it have the same range of abilities as a normal person.
 
What shrinking population? The world already has too many fucking chinks.
Europe is also overpopulated.

Shrinkage for a few generations would have been no big problem, but number must go up, and boomers need pensions and asswiping.

So instead they burn this whole shit down, potentially ending the different cultures and ethnicities in just a few decades.

The fucking chinese communists care more for their own people than european elites do.
 
The Chinese already have problems with escalators. Can't wait for the new line of snuff films created by robots malfunctioning and killing Chinks.

That video where a Chink gets trapped under a malfunctioning robot arm and the subsequent Chinks that get rekt by other factory machines (with one getting four rods shoved into him) is but a taste of what is to come.
 
The Chinese already have problems with escalators. Can't wait for the new line of snuff films created by robots malfunctioning and killing Chinks.

That video where a Chink gets trapped under a malfunctioning robot arm and the subsequent Chinks that get rekt by other factory machines (with one getting four rods shoved into him) is but a taste of what is to come.

Considering the millennia old Chinese tradition of murdering innumerable masses of their own population I kind of assume this is part of the plan to be honest. One of the first and primary fields they want to deploy robots in to replace human workers is elder care after that whole one-child policy thing backfired just a teensy tiny bit and a huge part of the population was promised the state would take care of them now that old age is around the corner.

Then of course, when the elderly keep dying, either from the robots just being shit caretakers in general or the bots violently malfunctioning and outright killing people, they will simply be ridding the CCP of worthless mouths to feed, no longer capable of supplying the Glorious Leader his rightfully owed labor and thus save a ton of money while also allowing their R&D to work out a bunch of programming kinks and issues before they start marketing the now ''safe'' bots to the rest world.

A communist win-win, one might say.
 
The Chinese already have problems with escalators. Can't wait for the new line of snuff films created by robots malfunctioning and killing Chinks.

That video where a Chink gets trapped under a malfunctioning robot arm and the subsequent Chinks that get rekt by other factory machines (with one getting four rods shoved into him) is but a taste of what is to come.

I want to see how huge the infernos from a Chink robot would get, with how their smartphones, smartwatches, power banks, EVs, and even toilets catch fire.
 
China has too large of a population for this to work anyway. If every immigrant in the US moved to China, they would make up about 3% of the population. I do believe China will begin to take in higher African immigration in the future, but even this will be a drop in the bucket.
They could probably take in the fuckload of halfbreeds they left from their... expedition into Africa :smug:
 
Europe is also overpopulated.

Shrinkage for a few generations would have been no big problem, but number must go up, and boomers need pensions and asswiping.

So instead they burn this whole shit down, potentially ending the different cultures and ethnicities in just a few decades.

The fucking chinese communists care more for their own people than european elites do.
The reason the CCP will never allow mass importation is they somehow, despite everything else they do wrong? Know that you can't grow a country by tossing anyone you find into it's borders and declaring them all one nation...

Even the commies know multiculturalism doesn't work.
 
Imagine a world in which America invested the trillions of dollars we have wasted propping up and importing browns, and instead used that on making AI robots to do everything. By now, every house would have a Mr. Handy that cooked, cleaned, walked the dog, and cut any home invading niggers in half with a buzzsaw. Instead we have spyware in our fridges. At some point, reality careened down the "bad end" path, and I am not exactly sure when that happened.

I doubt China will succeed here. Japan has tried for years, and the unfortunate fact is that making robots that do specific tasks are quite doable, but making a Rosey the Robot out of the Jetsons is a fuckload harder. Even if you bypass the mobility and battery problems, the simple fact is that computers interface with the complex real world extremely poorly, and are not smart enough to do it reliably.
 
Doesn't china already have several "Dark Factories" that basically completely automated humanless production lines, quite literally factorio style?

 
The problem with full automation is that robots can't buy things. Chinese can't buy things either, so it's less of a problem there.
 
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