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Cats With Bird Flu? The Threat Grows.
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Zeynep Tufekci
2023-08-31 17:33:52GMT

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The global H5N1 avian flu outbreak, already devastating wild birds and poultry, keeps spreading to mammals, bringing it one step closer to a potential human outbreak.

Of course, since the coronavirus pandemic taught us the importance of responding early and aggressively to outbreaks …

Sorry, I’m joking. We don’t seem to have learned much from the Covid outbreak, and it’s not funny.

Not enough has been done about an out-of-control H5N1 outbreak at fur farms in Finland or a mystery outbreak among domestic cats in Poland.

Finland, one of Europe’s biggest fur producers, is battling outbreaks among its captive minks, foxes and raccoon dogs — species that scientists warn have been identified as more likely to evolve a variant that can infect people, leading to a human outbreak.

Even the Finnish Food Authority, in its announcement of animals being culled, noted that minks are susceptible to both human and avian influenza. If one animal is infected by both, the viruses can mix genes and give rise to an avian flu that can infect humans. Fur farms in Finland, however, aren’t being closed. Instead the Finnish Wildlife Agency allowed fur breeders to kill wild birds near their farms in large numbers. The Agency told me the killings were authorized “to prevent contacts between infected birds and animals at fur farms,” but scientists point out this is the wrong approach and likely futile — and more fur farms in Finland have since announced further outbreaks.

Meanwhile, officials said a sizable outbreak of H5N1 among pet cats in Poland this summer killed at least 29 animals, though cat owners have compiled lists with as many as 89 sick animals. The outbreak has many unusual features that make it especially concerning, and yet there still hasn’t been an explanation of how exactly it happened or a vigorous investigation.

The affected cats lived in different areas of Poland, yet their viruses had almost identical genetic sequences. They obviously couldn’t have infected one another. Wild birds are unlikely to be the source, especially since some of the cats never went outside and the outbreak was not detected in Poland’s neighbors. It seems clear that the outbreak originated from a source in Poland.

Scientists and cat owners suspect cat food.

In a further twist, the virus from all the sick cats in Poland had two specific genetic mutations found almost exclusively among mammals, so either all the cats were infected and then their viruses independently developed these mutations or the two mutations were already in whatever infected them.

Tom Peacock, who studies influenza at Britain’s Imperial College, told me the most likely scenarios were that either the cats were eating mammal meat from sick animals or meat from birds where the virus had somehow developed these mutations that are normally associated with mammalian adaptation.

Either of these options is alarming, and we still lack answers about how all these geographically separated cats got infected with H5N1.

Scientists in Poland were able to test only five samples of food, and a single sample — chicken meat meant for human consumption that was also being fed to the cat — turned out to be positive for H5N1. However, as the scientific report notes, it’s only one sample, which could have been contaminated after the animal got sick in the household.

H5N1 was also detected recently in two cat shelters in Seoul, South Korea. The authorities suspected cat food as the source and recalled two varieties from one brand. While the investigation there may yield some answers, the situation differs from Poland’s since the Korean cats lived in the same place.

There needs to be extensive testing up and down the food chain, to identify the actual source.
If any such investigation is happening in Poland, however, authorities haven’t provided information about it to the public.

Poland is the European Union’s biggest exporter of poultry, so anything implicating the poultry food chain would be economically concerning.

Poland is also the E.U.’s biggest operator of mink farms. One obvious worry is whether the minks are getting sick with H5N1 and mink meat is somehow contaminating the food chain and eventually reaching the cats.

Unfortunately, though, mink farms in Poland have become wrapped up in the country’s culture wars. A previous attempt to ban mink farms in 2020 almost brought down the government, despite widespread support for the ban. The far right especially mobilized against it. One member of the family that controls the vast majority of the mink farms in Poland said the proposed ban was supported by the same people “who promote L.G.B.T., same-sex marriage, abortion, euthanasia and so on.” The conservative government backed off.

Such shortsightedness isn’t the monopoly of the far right. In the United States, a provision banning mink farming made it out of the House last year, only to be killed in the Senate in a bipartisan effort — with many Democratic senators joining Republican Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, where many mink farms still operate, to strip the ban from the legislation.

What’s going on in Poland’s mink farms? Maybe Poland is doing an exceptional job and avoiding mink outbreaks. But maybe it’s not even noticing them, which is possible even simply by not looking hard enough. A mink outbreak in Spain last year showed that H5N1 isn’t as deadly to minks as it is to poultry — where it can kill 80 to 90 percent of the infected animals — so an outbreak could go under the radar unless there was a proper effort at surveillance. There’s a danger such milder outbreaks could spark a pandemic, since the early stages may be harder to detect.

Fur animals like minks and foxes are carnivorous mammals that ordinarily hunt in solitude. Caging them together in cramped quarters not only facilitates epidemics, it’s especially cruel.

Such fur species are highly susceptible to many human respiratory illnesses, not just H5N1. In late 2020, Denmark — then the world’s largest mink farmer — was unable to contain Covid outbreaks in its farms despite much effort and discovered the minks were generating variants that were infecting humans. Alarmed, Denmark suspended its mink farms, but it’s now allowing them to start operating again.

We should ban fur farms, which are cruel, dangerous and unnecessary, and increase the surveillance and reporting requirements for H5N1 mammal outbreaks.

Paying off fur farmers in Europe and the United States could be cheaper than dealing with a human outbreak, especially since the industry is already naturally shrinking. Challis Hobbs, the executive director of Fur Commission USA, an association representing mink farmers, told Roll Call that about 100 farms are in operation, down from 257, as consumers move away from fur. China also operates fur farms, but an international deal could be pursued for increased surveillance and, hopefully, even a global ban.

In addition, a situation like that of the mystery cat outbreak in Poland shouldn’t be allowed to pass without a thorough and transparent investigation.

As we’ve sadly found out, borders and jurisdictions are niceties that viruses don’t care about, but the lessons remain unheeded globally.

Zeynep Tufekci (@zeynep) is a professor of sociology and public affairs at Princeton University, the author of “Twitter and Tear Gas: The Power and Fragility of Networked Protest” and a New York Times Opinion columnist. @zeynepFacebook
 
China also operates fur farms, but an international deal could be pursued for increased surveillance and, hopefully, even a global ban.
Whenever China is involved, it always involves handling them with kid-gloves. Can't go upsetting the slave labor provider, y'know.
 
A cat hater's fingers typed this article. Lies and anti-feline propaganda.

When we do a human holocaust you will be the first to know, NYT.
 
This article is implicitly disturbing on so many levels. Not because of muh deadly bird flu, but because you know these people LOVE the idea of being able to destroy your livelihood over the supposed threat of a virus, and we all know that once they ban something vaguely controversial and arguably unnecessary like factory-farmed fur, they'll use that as an excuse to move onto banning other sorts of farms and thus raising the price of meat high enough that people will actually eat their nasty-ass soy and bugs.

And then the cats. They really want to kill your cats, just like some faggy health bureaucrat in the UK wanted back in 2020. They will use "muh public health" as an excuse for it, since they hate people owning cats since it's "bad for the environment.

Fuck these people.
Unfortunately, though, mink farms in Poland have become wrapped up in the country’s culture wars. A previous attempt to ban mink farms in 2020 almost brought down the government, despite widespread support for the ban. The far right especially mobilized against it. One member of the family that controls the vast majority of the mink farms in Poland said the proposed ban was supported by the same people “who promote L.G.B.T., same-sex marriage, abortion, euthanasia and so on.” The conservative government backed off.
The New York Times loves LGBT, same-sex marriage, abortion, and euthanasia. The New York Times advocates people owning mink farms should lose their livelihood because farming fur is bad because muh virus or whatever. So that individual was 100% correct.
 
We should ban fur farms, which are cruel, dangerous and unnecessary,
Paying off fur farmers in Europe and the United States could be cheaper than dealing with a human outbreak, especially since the industry is already naturally shrinking. Challis Hobbs, the executive director of Fur Commission USA, an association representing mink farmers, told Roll Call that about 100 farms are in operation, down from 257, as consumers move away from fur. China also operates fur farms, but an international deal could be pursued for increased surveillance and, hopefully, even a global ban.
I thought it was supposed to be an article about cats with bird flu, not PETA moralising? Especially this bit makes the author look like a retard:
China also operates fur farms, but an international deal could be pursued for increased surveillance and, hopefully, even a global ban.
 
I mean, where was the outrage and calls to ban shit for Monkeypox? An actual human virus, that was spread by the gays, including to children and dogs?
Hypocrisy in action.
Kill all the minks and cull the cats, but stop buttfucking for 2 weeks to a month, well, that's outrageous bigotry to even consider.
 
Wait, wait, WHAT??
Scientists and cat owners suspect cat food.
Then that is deliberate contamination sabotage. Cat food is treated with heat, and should not contain active viral material. It’s cooked meat, not raw. If it’s contaminated with infective viral material that is a huge thing, and it can only be deliberate contamination
There needs to be extensive testing up and down the food chain, to identify the actual source.
And there won’t be, because that is a deliberate contamination to spread the disease.
They seem to desperately want an H5N1 outbreak. With a bit of luck it’ll spread to humans and if it doesn’t then it can and is being used to decimate animal products. Remember the egg shortages earlier this year?
Remember foot and mouth? That was prof Neil ‘shagger’ Ferguson who’s dodgy computer model locked down the uk and destroyed millions of farm livestock.
This is a biological attack.
 
I remember when swine flu was supposed to be the next big thing in 2009, and of course the total crock of shit that was COVID. Fool me once, shame on you....
 
I remember when swine flu was supposed to be the next big thing in 2009, and of course the total crock of shit that was COVID. Fool me once, shame on you....
Hey, I survived the swine flu epidemic of 2009 and it was horrendous! I couldn't smoke a cigarette for three days without coughing for several minutes!

Seriously though, if you aren't old or a baby you have nothing to fear from any flu. Unless you've been getting your vaccinations, then you're fucked.
 
hey really want to kill your cats, just like some faggy health bureaucrat in the UK wanted back in 2020.
Or like a place in New South Wales did to dogs that were going to be rescued in 2021: https://archive.ph/KlXga

Bourke Shire Council, in the state’s north-west, killed the dogs to prevent volunteers at a Cobar-based animal shelter from travelling to pick up the animals last week, according to council’s watchdog, the Office of Local Government.

“OLG has been informed that the council decided to take this course of action to protect its employees and community, including vulnerable Aboriginal populations, from the risk of COVID-19 transmission,” a spokesman from the government agency said.
 
They want to kill your pets, especially the long-lived ones. And they have a reason.

Ideally, in a welfare state, you live only as long as you are productive. Perhaps as a treat for many years of loyal service you get to enjoy a couple years of vocational afterlife with retirement, but then you die so you don't suck benefits up. That's why assisted suicide is being expanded and why within a few years you'll start to see guilt-tripping about how if you don't kill yourself upon receiving your terminal diagnosis you're costing taxpayers including your own kids, and don't kids have enough to worry about from global warming without having to pay for and witness your slow decline? Future's fucked anyway, olds, get out before you're expensive!

Pets make people say things like "oh I'm just sticking around since my cats would get put down if I died. I know my kids wouldn't take them." I would wager money that old widow(er)s with pets delay assisted suicide longer than those who are petless. End of life care is the most expensive part of healthcare over the lifespan for most people, so pets could cost serious money to any welfare state.
 
Hey, I survived the swine flu epidemic of 2009 and it was horrendous! I couldn't smoke a cigarette for three days without coughing for several minutes!

Seriously though, if you aren't old or a baby you have nothing to fear from any flu. Unless you've been getting your vaccinations, then you're fucked.
Plus I noticed it's already significantly dropping in lethality as it evolves into mammals. Huge amounts of dead birds, a lot of dead minks, now some dead cats. Even the Spanish Flu wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad if it weren't for WWI.

People also forget H5N1 has been around since at least the 1950s.
 
And then the cats. They really want to kill your cats, just like some faggy health bureaucrat in the UK wanted back in 2020. They will use "muh public health" as an excuse for it, since they hate people owning cats since it's "bad for the environment.
Judging by the overall goal of this scam, they hate people owning anything.
 
Judging by the overall goal of this scam, they hate people owning anything.
Yeah but in Klaus's ideal world, you won't even get to use your monthly UBI points to rent a cat, although maybe if you have high enough social credit score you can see one at zoo (while wearing two masks, rubber gloves, and having presented your vaxx passport showing you took the most recent biweekly mRNA dose).
 
Ideally, in a welfare state, you live only as long as you are productive. Perhaps as a treat for many years of loyal service you get to enjoy a couple years of vocational afterlife with retirement, but then you die so you don't suck benefits up. That's why assisted suicide is being expanded and why within a few years you'll start to see guilt-tripping about how if you don't kill yourself upon receiving your terminal diagnosis you're costing taxpayers including your own kids, and don't kids have enough to worry about from global warming without having to pay for and witness your slow decline? Future's fucked anyway, olds, get out before you're expensive!
But don't ask why your "betters" (aka the ruling elites) get to live to 100+ years old.
 
Of course, since the coronavirus pandemic taught us the importance of responding early and aggressively to outbreaks …

Sorry, I’m joking. We don’t seem to have learned much from the Covid outbreak, and it’s not funny.
You are right we have not learned much. People are still wearing masks that are ineffective. People are still getting shots that are doing nothing good for them. People are still begging daddy government to save them from the boogeyman.
Meanwhile, officials said a sizable outbreak of H5N1 among pet cats in Poland this summer killed at least 29 animals, though cat owners have compiled lists with as many as 89 sick animals. The outbreak has many unusual features that make it especially concerning, and yet there still hasn’t been an explanation of how exactly it happened or a vigorous investigation.
Wow twenty-nine!

This is straight up fear mongering.

It is everywhere all the time now if you pay attention. Lies and fear mongering.

I was at a convenience store paying for gas when I noticed a sign claiming that smoking is the #1 cause of death.

You know how they get that stat? They count all heart disease, lung disease, and general cardiovascular deaths as being caused by smoking...even if the person never smoked.

That means if someone dies due to obesity induced heart disease and never puffed: Smoking killed them.

Warning Tangent Alert:

They do it with everything all the time.

Now I am not saying go light up because inhaling smoke is a bad idea(even pot regardless of the claims that it is totally harmless bruh) but it is everywhere.

If the CDC/FDA were concerned about people's health they would be slapping a skull and crossbones on every single Big Mac box, every soda bottle, and under "billions and billions served" McDonald's would have to hang a sign that said, "And billions killed".

Ah but big tobacco engineered their tobacco to have more nicotine!

And the food industry engineers their products to taste better and be craving inducing.

Smoking is bad, no question, but the way it has been let us say pleasantly demonized has less to do with health and more to do with getting people thinking, "Well fuck those people more taxes on those products are great!" Not too mention the huge amounts of money shifted from tobacco companies to causes.

I swear the only thing that stops a nationwide tax on sugar is pharma pumping out Type II treatments.

Again smoking bad. Do not smoke. Also do not eat a McDonald's meal it has more sodium and sugar than you should eat in a day.

Okay rant over.
 
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