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Nothing like waiting until you're two destinations removed from the original meeting place to deliver the answer to a crummy pickup line that your date didn't even say. Oh, Chris.
 
Alec Benson Leary said:
He needs education on a lot of things, but what does it matter when he won't listen?
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That's it. He is just so far off of what anybody would deem socially acceptable behaviour. Willingness to learn aside, what do you say to a guy who seems to be a never ending stream of faux-pas? If he said or did the occassional inappropriate thing, you could cut him some slack because of autism and isolation and try your best to steer him in the right direction. But he seemed to do everything wrong. If he came to you and said "I am willing to listen, just tell me what to do differently.", what would you say?

The obvious answer is "everything". But because he did everything wrong he clearly has the wrong instincts about everything. That means if he were to change everything he would probably just replace it with something equally inappropriate. And that any appropriate things he did would be a compete accident or just blindly denying his instincts, not being himself, and following what someone else tells him to do. That is clearly not sustainable.

It seems like he is incurably an antisocial asshole. Part of me agrees with the general sentiment that that is proof his loneliness is what he deserves. But a lot of me just feels really bad for someone who is so clearly broken as a person.
 
timtommy said:
It seems like he is incurably an antisocial asshole. Part of me agrees with the general sentiment that that is proof his loneliness is what he deserves. But a lot of me just feels really bad for someone who is so clearly broken as a person.
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Don't let your pity and sense of compassion excuse Fatty's actions. That's what people have been doing for far too long and look where he's ended up. Sooner or later you have to draw the line between the condition and someone whose just a terrible person.

In the end Chris will have to live with the choices he made just like everyone else.
 
Sweet and Savoury said:
Don't let your pity and sense of compassion excuse Fatty's actions. That's what people have been doing for far too long and look where he's ended up. Sooner or later you have to draw the line between the condition and someone whose just a terrible person.

In the end Chris will have to live with the choices he made just like everyone else.
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Maybe you are right. But what gets me is that he was trying his best not to seem terrible. I suppose that could be taken as proof that he is incurably terrible. But to me it is a sign he is incurably stupid.

I have to admit that I feel bad that someone, when they are trying to be nice and charming, can think that that is the best way of going about it. I guess I look at Chris as part asshole part idiot, and I feel bad for the the idiot part.

He has no idea how to not be an asshole. That is pathetic, in every sense of the word.
 
I skip a week of the forums and I miss all this?! I had absolutely no idea Catie actually met Chris herself IRL.

I'd rate the first post "Horrifying" if I could.
 
TheJukku said:
The gift basket for the hooker was someone else's idea. Give a hooker a gift basket and maybe she's just a "friend" that you're "giving gifts" to. It works surprisingly often at getting people off the hook if the cops are feeling lazy.
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This. I mentioned it in an old thread somewhere. This is the standard way you pay for a hooker without looking like she's a hooker. "Why, no, friendly policeman. Mia and I are simply good friends with benefits, as seen in this example of my bringing her this lovely gift basket with soaps, lotions, some candy and oh yes, that $150 she was gracioius enough to loan me until my paycheck arrived and I could repay her. I would never be so crass as to actually HAND her money, also she is visiting from out of town and so is staying in this Best Western. Heh, heh, friendly policeman, IMAGINE how it would look if I came to visit my old friend Mia at her room to reminisce and enjoy some benefits and HANDED her $150! Why one might imagine that I was socliting sex!"

Hence the invention of the "gift basket", as in "and perhaps you will bring me a small gift, with a monetary donation of, oh, say (going rate)", it's a thin dodge, but it often works.
 
Haesindang Park said:
He probably forgot about them and he doesn't seem to be into cats. Not to mention, he doesn't know if they've escaped the house or died with the fire.
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Of all the horrible things Chris has done, this utter lack of caring about his pet cats really bugs me. A lot.
 
I Want Cake said:
Of all the horrible things Chris has done, this utter lack of caring about his pet cats really bugs me. A lot.
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It;s better this way I like to imagine they escaped the fire were picked up by animal control, and adopted by a nice family with kids that will love them for the rest of their lives instead of rotting in the hoard.
 
Chandler Cats said:
This. I mentioned it in an old thread somewhere. This is the standard way you pay for a hooker without looking like she's a hooker. "Why, no, friendly policeman. Mia and I are simply good friends with benefits, as seen in this example of my bringing her this lovely gift basket with soaps, lotions, some candy and oh yes, that $150 she was gracioius enough to loan me until my paycheck arrived and I could repay her. I would never be so crass as to actually HAND her money, also she is visiting from out of town and so is staying in this Best Western. Heh, heh, friendly policeman, IMAGINE how it would look if I came to visit my old friend Mia at her room to reminisce and enjoy some benefits and HANDED her $150! Why one might imagine that I was socliting sex!"

Hence the invention of the "gift basket", as in "and perhaps you will bring me a small gift, with a monetary donation of, oh, say (going rate)", it's a thin dodge, but it often works.
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It is incredibly difficult to nail someone for selling or paying for sex unless one of the parties is an undercover officer (or it is street-walking). How do you prove the sex was in exchange for money? What if it is just an exchange of gifts? What if the girl sold a condom to a guy for a massive mark-up and then independently decided to have sex with the the free-spending gentleman?

One of the most common ones is the escort. You pay for the company of a woman for an evening out doing non-sexual things. If you "tip" her a lot, she sleeps with you. How is that any different than a bartender who decides to go home with a guy who tipped her big?

That's why if you open craigslist or any classified list you will see escorts listed fairly openly, but you won't see other illegal products or services listed nearly as openly.
 
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"Chris was wearing a red T-shirt and grey undershirt, his "kilt" (really some old lady style plaid skirt to the calf) with turquoise tights, and grotty sneakers."
This line alone provides a pretty shocking mental image, his fat, grotesque body in tights and a skirt out in public, going nuts over a girl. :cryblood:

"Chris occupies both upstairs rooms, one is full of Lego (including melted, warped fire damaged Lego, a lot of it), and the other has his same grotty bedding from the old house."
You figure they could just use one of the rooms upstairs to store their piles of useless shit instead of his Legos, but I guess not.

"The dogs are untrained, hate strangers, and are at least twenty pounds overweight."
I really get the feeling that the Chris should never be allowed to take care of pets ever. :c

" There was an MLP iPhone case because he also wanted to take me shopping for an iPhone to put on his plan so he could call me as much as he wanted."
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Imagining Chris getting an iPhone for a gal-pal just so he could constantly berate them with phone calls seems just a bit too creepy, but it seems like something Chris would do. Plus I don't think he understands how big that phone bill could get, just adding on a random line for Catie.
 
Egomatic said:
"Chris was wearing a red T-shirt and grey undershirt, his "kilt" (really some old lady style plaid skirt to the calf) with turquoise tights, and grotty sneakers."
This line alone provides a pretty shocking mental image, his fat, grotesque body in tights and a skirt out in public, going nuts over a girl. :cryblood:
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Look on the bright side, at least Chris didn't eschew the tights and skirt in favour of leggings. That would be the fashion equivalent of Shub-Niggurath!
 
Wow... this is both informative, exciting, but at the same time, incredibly horrifying to read too. Christine's somewhat dubious bragging that she learned from the Megan incident, that excessive touching isn't okay seems to have zero actual weight to her based on these interactions. I know I usually say "Never change Christine" but at stuff like this she really should try to improve a bit. For her own sake.
 
Stud2Stud said:
Well, to be fair, "Catie" might have had an interest in MLP. They did have a 95% matchup in OKC, but I don't know if that page has custom questions that would also deal with Sonic and MLP. Assuming it does, I wouldn't be surprised if at least 20% of the 1000+ questions Chris answered would have been centred around Sonic and MLP.
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And don't forget that Chris and Catherine had been corresponding for nearly a month when this date occurred. He already believed that they were in love.
 
timtommy said:
That's it. He is just so far off of what anybody would deem socially acceptable behaviour. Willingness to learn aside, what do you say to a guy who seems to be a never ending stream of faux-pas? If he said or did the occassional inappropriate thing, you could cut him some slack because of autism and isolation and try your best to steer him in the right direction. But he seemed to do everything wrong. If he came to you and said "I am willing to listen, just tell me what to do differently.", what would you say?
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This is what happened with Vivian Gee. Chris literally asked her to tell him what he should be doing, she told him, he just whined and made excuses. The "advice" he wants is, "You're doing everything right, it's the world that's wrong, let me fix that for you."
 
Egomatic said:
"Chris occupies both upstairs rooms, one is full of Lego (including melted, warped fire damaged Lego, a lot of it), and the other has his same grotty bedding from the old house."
You figure they could just use one of the rooms upstairs to store their piles of useless shit instead of his Legos, but I guess not.
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Barb probably can't get up the stairs, which is why Chris has both those rooms to himself. Hoarders need access to their stuff as much as possible.
 
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