Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead

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Really appreciate this thread for helping me get up to speed on the different game versions, as I was getting the itch to play Cataclysm again after 5 years after watching a recent stream of someone trying Last Generation. I didn't even know there were forks other than DDA until recently.

Anyways, thanks for exposing the faggotry in DDA and recommending Bright Nights. I'm having an absolute blast after burning through a couple of characters trying out stupid things and practicing the starting steps of prepping tools and skills.

My last character died when I ran into an unlocked functional APC to hide from a hoard of zombies. They saw me and surrounded the vehicle, but I thought it would be tough enough to keep me safe until I could hotwire it, but then I found out that reinforced windshields are not actually that strong apparently lol. Either way I was surprised that I was able to take out 8 or so of before being stabbed and bleeding to death from a nurse zombie. The cudgel is pretty strong!
 
Humble Crab said:
but then I found out that reinforced windshields are not actually that strong apparently lol.
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And that's why I never use anything but a carrier or whichever was the one with one or no windows and and cameras surrounding the vehicle. Can't see me but I can see you.
Humble Crab said:
The cudgel is pretty strong!
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Blunt is great against most enemies I believe, especially if you spec into Strength at character creation. Most enemies use sharp too I believe so you can easily invest in sharp resistant armor and be fine. Would also recommend investing in a combat style too or find a fighting style book as soon as possible, pick your fights and you'll always come out on top.
 
Looking into The Last Generation, apparently it became an echo chamber day immediately not only on their dicksword (I've seen people banned for disagreeing or even agreeing but not in the way the jannies wanted) but also the steam discussions (lol Worm"girl" is charging for the steam release despite the game still being free on Github and still updated too). Someone got banned for simply asking why they removed two fox variants (grey and red iirc) and told to shut up. Pretty sure some reviews were removed as well as I remembered one short review but I now I can't find it. You can't criticize the game without getting banned because Worm only wants their vision and anyone who doesn't accept everything 1:1, well it's not the game for them at all and it never will so you need to "just shut up" or leave. Definitely loony troon behavior.
Wormcreature is still incredibly anti-anything-not-under-their-control and refuses to allow anyone to make anything that isn't directly made by them. I mean, that itself wouldn't be too bad as I've seen a lot of "fans" poison the well but Worm is too lazy (apparently the code is barely different from DDA and new code is subpar at best, grain of salt people) to do anything but minorly tweak the code of their fork, so combine that with not wanting anyone else making anything related to their work and nothing really gets made. I believe Worm said they'd find a way to brick it anyway but grain of salt.
Supposedly a lot of people are also turned off since they were expecting another fork that breaks away from DDA's anti-fun "muh realism" stance but were surprised when all they found was just DDA's mentality with a different coat of paint. If anyone can help verify this, please do. Regardless, I'm starting to think that TLG only has fans because "a hecking "girl"arindo made it."
Honestly I just rehashing some of what I already stated in the last post about Worm, the meme Ham Sandwich post is still accurate lol.
 
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Trying out TLG it seems like more what I wanted from CDDA
I found bright nights very... Wishywashy. I never quite felt like anything I did really made the tension of survival matter. There was always a threshold I could reach where nothing could reasonably hurt me, so I'd go off to some lategame area to buildtest.

LTG sorta solves the problem by lowering the enemy count but making changes to the melee code that are fun. (Grabs and tosses are back, for one. Pain matters more) Plus it seems like Worm's lessened their stance a bit on mods. As I was able to install mythical martial arts and mind over matter.

Overall, so long as nothing retarded happens (unlikely, given the state of the community) Worm's got a solid base to work from.
Tri-Tachyon'sClown said:
when all they found was just DDA's mentality with a different coat of paint. If anyone can help verify this, please do. Regardless, I'm starting to think that TLG only has fans because "a hecking "girl"arindo made it."
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From what I've played it's a lot better than base CDDA. But it only exists because WG is a terminal (assumedly female) autist. Not seen a single trans flag on any profile they maintain, and they actually removed a ton of the pride shit (condensed it into a single 'Pride Flag' item)
So you're still getting autism, just instead of retarded manchild autism it's very female autism. Where they're possessive over the code and detail oriented. Time will tell if this actually amounts to something better.
(They did, however, remove the Exodii. Which gets a nice gold star in my book for how fucking annoying they are)
This changelog post alone pretty much confirms like, some sort of neurosis.
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A photo of me and my new horse buddy Steve.
- Shared from my nuclear iPhone
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It's been a while since I've last played Cataclysm:BN (2 entire stable patches have come out already) and I gotta say I'm enjoying all the recent changes so far (more cool mods, characters, scenarios, items, etc). I've managed to survive almost until the beginning of Summer as a failed cyborg (High Tech, Low Life scenario) and struggled to find a single working car so far, so Steve there should be of great help to me.
 
Tri-Tachyon'sClown said:
Worm"girl"
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Starefag said:
Worm's got a solid lean on being a bio woman. Neurotic, autistic bio woman.
But hey. That's coders for you.
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By the way I know I'm quite late to this discussion but I'll just link this video and let you guys be the judge.
>razor-sharp machete
>rick and morty plate
>knowledge of military memes
>breaking bad-themed mug
>figurine of an anime catgirl from memes
Also
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For those not in the know...
 
MAAAD said:
By the way I know I'm quite late to this discussion but I'll just link this video and let you guys be the judge.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BuK7y8SG6eY>razor-sharp machete
>rick and morty plate
>knowledge of military memes
>breaking bad-themed mug
>figurine of an anime catgirl from memes
Also
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For those not in the know...
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I'm still leaning towards them being an autistic woman as I've met 2 t&h women very similar to that, but it would not even phase me to learn they're a tranny. If they had a sledgehammer rather than a machete then I'd be certain they're a mystery meatling. They have shown their face before in their communities posts if that helps.
The voice though...fuck it, 300 Creds on them being a loony troon.
 
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Is there a fork of CDDA that feels more arcadey like the late version C?

I got so burned out with D and its dragging drift to more simulation than arcadey gameplay.
I miss the days of salvaging a truck alternator and slapping it onto a bike frame to have a super peddle generator
 
One_True_Yuri said:
Is there a fork of CDDA that feels more arcadey like the late version C?

I got so burned out with D and its dragging drift to more simulation than arcadey gameplay.
I miss the days of salvaging a truck alternator and slapping it onto a bike frame to have a super peddle generator
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Quite literally Bright Nights.
 
I've died in my longest run so far as a cyborg patient stuffed with advanced CBMs and electronics gear (lasted 32 days, until mid Summer basically). I didn't take any screenshots but I do have a couple of questions now:
  1. Are all of the labs in Bright Nights cold as a tundra now and get colder the lower you go? I get it that caves and other underground areas are supposed to be cold IRL but this is taking it too far IMHO - the labs have electricity and light ffs, you'd think they'd have plenty of heaters installed everywhere. Hell, are all of the underground areas in the game cold now? I love me a good challenge, but man it's gonna be a problem if everywhere underground is like that.
    The very first (and only) lab I got to raid was a truly enormous facility with AT LEAST 8 floors - I never got to the final room partly due to 2 skeleton hulks but mostly because a) past the first floor I had to wear a working electric thermal suit, have an inner climate control CMB on at all times AND wear whatever warm rags I could loot from slain zombies just to avoid frostbite past the -1st floor and b) it still didn't help past the -6th floor due to completely insane ambient temperatures.
    I also tried a lab start challenge a few times and almost every single time (except when I spawned at the -1st floor) I was freezing to death already within the first few minutes of the run. Insane.
  2. I guess I forgot how to disconnect installed plutonium generators, lol. I found like 3 C.R.I.T. vaults in the lab and they all had those as well as advanced 3D-printers, electric forges, etc. I wanted to take a few generators back to my base but couldn't figure out how to disconnect them - last time I played, I looted one from a military checkpoint using a military ID but I couldn't interact with the generators in the labs using one and neither could I disconnect them using a building menu (but there was an option to install one, interestingly enough). Do I need to bring a voltmeter next time or something? How the hell do I do it?
edit: It just occured to me that I also had a question about how mutagenic serums and purifiers work exactly but tbh I'd rather not spoiler it to myself and have fun learning it in one of my future runs, maybe when I get bored from CBMs (not happening btw).
 
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MAAAD said:
Are all of the labs in Bright Nights cold as a tundra now and get colder the lower you go?
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Not all of them iirc, some are normal temperature while others are absolute zero. The freezing ones are retarded since they tend to be nearly impossible to survive more than a quick trip for regular lab loot.
It's supposed to be this supernatural cold that deters players from lingering but it's just a bad design since there are labs that probably have better loot with normal temperatures. If it was a cryothermal lab like from that one mod I understand but even that wasn't a cold lab lol. Best get thermal electric shit.
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I was freezing to death already within the first few minutes of the run. Insane.
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Yeah it goes all the way to absolute zero and it's barely "warmer" on the upper levels. When starting a run, choose a specific starting location, why cold labs are even a starting location is beyond me, challenge run I guess.
MAAAD said:
I guess I forgot how to disconnect installed plutonium generators, lol.
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BN handles energy differently since they don't have DDA's enerfy grid system, but iirc you just "disassemble" is like you would normal furnature, it just drops the generator. You can also just yoink a battery, place it down using the contruction menu, place a solar panel on the roof the same way, done.

MAAAD said:
mutagenic serums and purifiers
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LET'S GO GAMBLING! No seriously, it's a gamble. You get mutagen points in the background that are spent when you accidentally mutate (radiation, genetic trait, untargeted mutagen) while targeted mutagen picks a random (usually good, usually lower rank if you're just starting) mutation from a targeted threshold.
Purifying is also random, though I believe it's a higher chance to remove good or bad mutagens depending on how many of said good or bad mutations you have, don't recall as I prefer the strength and certainty of steel. I think there's also targeted purifying for removing specific traits. It's much easier than DDA's autisic primers that's for sure.
 
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Also recently found out one of the devs in DDA wanted to (and may have already done so) remove Killer Drive and nerf cannibalism to spite "edgelords."
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Scream Aim Fire said:
Remember; everything must be a "safe space" for trannies and their ilk. They don't want anyone that isn't a member of their cult to have literally anything, while they get to horde everything.
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Which is even funnier when you consider trannies usually gravitate towards that shit. I forgot which thread I said it in but trannies are paradoxically attracted to both cute shit and endless human suffering (because they cause endless suffering). It's either Hello Kitty or whatever game they can brutalize people the hardest.
 
Tri-Tachyon'sClown said:
Which is even funnier when you consider trannies usually gravitate towards that shit. I forgot which thread I said it in but trannies are paradoxically attracted to both cute shit and endless human suffering (because they cause endless suffering). It's either Hello Kitty or whatever game they can brutalize people the hardest.
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Like MLP; for whatever reason, trannies and fags have to take cute shit and make it horrifying. Remember The Conversion Bureau, and how it got picked up by Chatoyance?
 
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