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I find it hard to put into words just how much I hate this video.
There's no jokes. It's just weird weepy misery porn ...for a fucking preschool show.
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There's no jokes. It's just weird weepy misery porn ...for a fucking preschool show.
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We're at the point in preschool cartoons where you get stupid shit either like the above, or this:
(I hope the cameraman is a father and noticed that watching with his kid.)
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I'm noticing the Wii plugged in underneath the TV, and I'm just convinced this guy is still stuck in 2010.
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It took a summer in Japan as a young person to realize that what I thought was wacky, nonsensical, and charming storytelling was actually quite normal and ubiquitous when you're a Japanese person. Certainly Sailor Moon, Pokemon etc. were standouts, and that's the reason they had international appeal, but there are metric tons of similar stories and art styles all available at the local shop, meant to be consumed and discarded. For some gaijin, even when living in Japan, I think they still get off on the exoticism, but for me, the exoticness of Japanese media wore off.
Relevant to the thread, I see that the live journal and Tumblr girls grew up and some of them ended up living their dream making cartoons. Their work heavily appropriates from Japanese influence. Unfortunately the outcome is jarring and nonsensical especially when mixed up with current western political and social sensibilities. It's really too bad. I'm not against appropriation in the slightest. For example I'm delighted that early Japanese game developers were inspired by progressive rock when making their sound tracks. But there's a fuzzy difference between being inspired and cargo culting.
A standout example for me recently was watching the kids watch the Disney channel at a relatives house and this bean-mouth looking cartoon had a little toooooo much of the characters ruminating on each other's feelings and then a deep reflection of their own. I never ever saw this kind of shit in American television when I was a kid. I have seen it in Japanese media across all time periods. But if you spent any time with Japanese people you'd get why. Thinking, and at times overthinking about others and your impact on them is part of the culture, at least in my estimation. The Western version comes off as neurotic and since it's not an organic part of our culture it gloms on to every pet minority problem just to make it make sense. That's my take anyway.
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Thanks, but it's not right without a crying manchild.
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Admitting it’s women fault why Pixar flopping is not a win as you think. P.S John Lasetter is responsible for Coco. The only Pixar movie that appeals to the minority group. Black people hate Soul. Asians really hate Turning Red.
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Speaking of John Lasetter, he moved over to Skydance Animation and made that Luck movie. Has anyone seen it?
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He's working on multiple movies over there at the moment, but I have no idea when any of them are set to come out. Brad Bird's also over there working on his next movie, Ray Gunn.
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He didn't make it, he just helped it along when he arrived. It's pretty meh, needed more time in the oven, but it was probably already set on a schedule and Lasseter knows how to work with crunch time. You can easily tell when it was he arrived on the scene because the animation started looking less stilted and a weird radish-like character was brought in in the third act that John Ratzenberger plays.
It's just one of Pixar's many problems, though. Brave turned out the way it did because, back when it was still The Bear and the Bow, Brenda Chapman left over "creative differences", whatever that means, and whoever stepped in did some stuff to it that didn't mesh well with whatever she was going with. I'm not saying that was entirely her fault the movie didn't reach its full potential, but men and women approach story-telling differently from each other, and you could probably pin-point the moment(s) where her influence was out of the picture. It's been years since I last saw it, I just remember feeling disappointed at how janky it got after the mother turned into a bear. And since it was a mother-daughter movie, it was obviously made for a female audience in mind, but there needed to be stuff in it to keep the boys' attention as well, which was why the script clashed as hard as it did.
Now Turning Red was 100% a "woman" movie because it was obviously a self-insert therapy session because the director clearly has some tiger mom issues she never got over.
There's a reason women writers need to get tard-wrangled by other men when they're trying for a mixed demographic.
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I saw it and it sucked. I don't even remember the plot of the movie, talking cat something something Ireland is magical.
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Considering he hits his head or phone at the end like an autistic manchild and feels the need to raise his voice over a toddler show, I assume he watches it on his own.
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I think the problem is that somehow, when a notorious sexual predator was in the company, the quality of the animated features made was much better. Either we're not being told something, or women and people of colour cannot do their job properly.
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Shut up you dumbass! If they learn how, they'll think they can make anime and ruin that too.Hey calarts morons! HERE's how you fucking do beanface:
... Have there been any of those, I haven't watched TV in a couple years. Calarts anime? lol
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What if you have rapist people of color as part of the team, then? *thonk*
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Come to think of it, was there any animation R. Kelly was a voice actor for? Or P-Diddy?
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There's a bit in, I think Understanding Comics (but I can't find it), where the difference between western and eastern storytelling is illustrated with two short comics.
In the western example it shows the standard conflict-resolution structure, but in the example for eastern storytelling you see a woman walk to a vending machine, buy a drink, and then walk away, then the "reveal" at the end is that she was bringing the drink to another person.
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A movie so iconic that I got confused and amalgamated it with the Disney one with the long that everyone gooned to.
Speaking of, I think that goonbait is literally the only thing that Disney has left. Everything else disappears when the shills pack up.
That's BAKATSURA to you, pal.
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As a quick reminder, the forming "quirky teen girl" zeitgeist on Tumblr helped prop up films like Tangled and Frozen during their respective releases, so it kinda makes sense that that generation would be the one Disney would pick up to make their future films, or at the very least go out of their way to cater to them more. That, and I've heard on and off that some companies are trying to make their songs "TikTok-able."
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The also ironic part is that Tangled and Frozen were the two movies where the princesses in the 2010’s were allowed to act like real princesses that played the role well, until they both were targeted by the new age Western Animation™ crowd to invert the #girlboss stereotype that completely manipulated into destroying the stereotype of what a Disney-based princess is supposed to be about.