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What is your favorite car? (Top 3)

  • Ame Sea

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  • Ferd

    Votes: 81 21.7%
  • Chevus

    Votes: 33 8.8%
  • Crintzler

    Votes: 5 1.3%
  • Doge

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Beem Dubya

    Votes: 32 8.6%
  • Mersaydis

    Votes: 32 8.6%
  • Volts-Wagon

    Votes: 34 9.1%
  • FIOT

    Votes: 8 2.1%
  • Joop

    Votes: 23 6.1%
  • Alphonse Romero

    Votes: 9 2.4%
  • Vulva

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • Teslur

    Votes: 10 2.7%
  • Mincooper

    Votes: 7 1.9%
  • Knee-Son

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Hun-die

    Votes: 13 3.5%
  • Toyoder

    Votes: 134 35.8%
  • Hondo

    Votes: 95 25.4%
  • Subrue

    Votes: 48 12.8%

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Hey! Is this a decent place to ask what would be the best car to look into buying with a budget of 10k?
I know very litle about cars, my first one was a hand me down and my second was a used prius that got hit by some idiot while i was coming home from work.
I didn't have collision coverage which was my error and there wasn't enough evidence to blame anyone so now i'm stuck trying to find new options.
My preferred brand is Toyota, and i'd like something fuel efficient.
09-12 Camry, can usually find them under 100k miles in that price range. No frills but reliable with minimal maintenance.
I mean it looks like all vehicles started using drive-by-wire with direct computer control over the vehicle starting in the early 2000s, and we know for a fact the CIA was exploring options to use this to assassinate people.

I'd buy a 2023 if it didn't have any drive-by-wire.
01-2003 GMC/Chevy with the Duramax probably the best compromise I can think of. Minimal computer hoodoo bullshit, outside of emissions range, reliable engine, not a death trap.
 
Anyone here like motorcycles ? It's 70* here and I went to pull my old pile of shit 98 GSXR out of that garage and it wouldn't start
I’d assume your bike either needs a new battery or you didn’t run a fuel stabilizer so now the carbs are gunked up. These are the two most common problems after winter storage.
 
drive-by-wire with direct computer control
You should look up how these systems work and look into the schematics of cars you might be interested in.
Afaik no production car* currently has full drive-by-wire, even the most modern self driving teslas still have a physical steering column connecting the wheels to the steering wheel. Their self driving feature uses the power steering system, if you can move the steering wheel you can just overpower it.
A lot of paranoia regarding these modern features are imo misguided by a lack of understanding of how these systems work in detail.
Buying a clapped out 80s/90s truck will be a massive headache if you actually plan on driving it daily. Shit breaks constantly and you will be completely fed up with the constant maintainance work/bills within 18 months.

That said, my recommendations for old cars:
Truck: old Toyota Hylux (4th, 5th, 6th gen)
Off-Road/SUV: Toyota Land Cruiser / Lexus LX (same car, the lexus is just nicer trim basically)
Wagon or Sedan: Lexus IS 300 sportcross (1st gen) The engine is basically indestructible and the trunk fits about as much shit as a small pickup, my personal daily driver btw

Recommendation for newer cars: any post-2010 Toyota hybrid, the way their hybrid drivetrain works is extremely robust and cuts down massively on maintainance

*Toyota/lexus have full drive-by-wire, with no physical backup, on some prototypes for the RX450e and BZ4X, im unsure if the 2023 models have them or its really just prototypes

t. massive Toyota fanboy
 
Ford Ranger/Courier 1998 - 2010
I think he wants a truck for when he comes back to the states and unfortunately they never sold the diesel Ranger there. However the 4 cylinder models are very efficient and quite reliable, provided they’ve been taken care of. You won’t be hauling or towing much with them but for household chores or light work they’re plenty.
 
I wonder if it's the bigger tire/lifted packages that are more prone to breaking tie rods. The base models appear stout as fuck and I've seen vids of them doing wild shit, but the 4 doors with the bigger packages look like aftermarket hell

I haven't offroaded in years but I'm definitely interested in a base model 2 door.
I know there's a lot of forum discussions on swapping out parts from the Sasquatch models to the other trims, but I don't think anyone's done it yet. I still don't think anyone has a definitive answer for why the broncos are problematic. They share a rack and pinion with the Raptor, which as far as I know hasn't had the same issue.
Interesting. Good to know if and when I get one when prices drop and I can get a 2 door on the used market, hopefully green, I'll look out for that
Based fellow Green enjoyer. The Bronco does have a good shade of green. I could see myself getting one in a few years since my Jeep shitbox is ready to die and people think they're worth upwards of $10k now. I bought mine for $1200 a few years ago to put that price into perspective.
 
@Null so here's a list of generally reliable, NON-driveby wire cars available all over in the states. I've tried to keep it 80s/90s so they aren't super old

- 8th and 9th Gen Ford F Series: super reliable and have a ton of options, including manual, dually, longbed/shortbed etc and the indestructible 7.3IDI, as well as super good gas engines. Fuel guzzlers tho. 1987-1997. Previous generations are also good, albeit now classics

- Chevrolet/GMC GMT400: basically the GM version of the above F series. Widely available and cheap. 1988-1998. There's also a family of SUVs related to these that are the same

- Jeep Cherokee XJ: perhaps the most indestructible offroader of all time, 4.0 equipped XJs will still be fucking around and finding out when the sun explodes. Manufactured from 1984 to 2001. The 4.0 engine models are known for not only being indestructible, but also being indestructible even when poorly maintained or abused, such as me driving mine 40 miles with no oil in it at highway speed. The issue with these is that they are either clapped or expensive because they are becoming collectors cars.

- Jeep Comanche (MJ): pickup truck version of the above XJ. 1985-1992.

- Ford Panther platform Cars: manufactured from 1979 to the mid 2000s, this Includes the crown vic, Lincoln Town Car and other large sedans known for being indestructible fleet machines. There's also a wealth of police related second hand items such as stab proof seats, shotgun racks etc available for these, even still installed on some ex-cop models. Really no downside with these besides being fuel guzzlers. Later models are drive by wire but the majority are not.

- late 80s - Mid 90s GM B Platform cars: GM's B platform was around since the 20s, but it's final cars rolled out in the mid 90s. The 90s offered a wealth of reliable, tanky V8 RWD Sedans on this platform from GM, like the Impala, Roadmaster, Caprice etc. These are basically GM's crown vic.

- toyota camry XV20 (US XV20): manufactured from 1996 to 2002, these were the interlude camrys between the shopping carts that were previous camrys, and the later, larger and unreliable camrys. They retain the reliability of some of the previous cars, but with much of the creature comforts that the later models had. The only real downside to these is that they are slow for a car of their size, and they are about as boring as boring comes. My grandma drives one of these. Beige on beige. FWD. If a bowl of plain oatmeal was a car, this is it.

- 1st thru 3rd gen Ford Rangers, 1983- 2011.
Basic small truck. Later 3rd gens have drive by wire. Generally reliable and cheap to maintain, not as capable as their larger F series big Brothers.

- 1st-2nd Gen Chevy S10/GMC Sonoma/S15 Jimmy/S10 Blazer. 1982-2004
GM's small truck of the time. Definitely sports a better lineup than the ranger with its SUV variants and an number of more aggressive offroad variants. Generally reliable and cheap to mmaintain. These were also sold as the Isuzu Hombre

- Final Gen Chevrolet Elcamino 1978 to 1987. This the last gen of chevrolet's coupe utility. Last gen elcaminos are generally super reliable and will do everything you ask of them. They are cheap to maintain, and the older ones don't even have electronics at all, besides HEI. While the diesel V8 was a turd, the majority of these came with gas engine options. The downside to these cars is that most are old enough to have grandkids, and they are pretty damned slow out of the box for such an aggressive looking car, which was a symptom of the crippling emissions regs of the 70s/80s.

- Mercedes W201: 1982 to 1993. While European cars are generally not reliable, the W201 line has a number of more reliable models that can be found for cheap, including diesels that can run off of vegetable oil. The downside to these is that they are excessively slow, unless you buy one of the higher end models....which are unreliable. The other downside is that German car parts are relatively expensive even for a car this age.

- 4th/5th/6th gen Honda Civic 1987 to 1999: these gens of civic are generally reliable and incredibly cheap and simple to work on. The downside is that like most Japanese cars of this era, civics are exceptionally prone to paint problems and rust. Honda CRVs from this era are basically this same concept but in a small, AWD SUV

- Manual Transmission Equipped Cummins 12 Valve vehicles (this also applies to the 7.3 IDI although somewhat less): basically anything with one of these and some know how, and a manual trans, can be run with EXCEPTIONALLY minimal wiring, let alone electronics. This is handy for surviving things like EMPs. These engines were available in a range of things, most notably dodge rams.

I'll update this if I think of anything more. This is largely based on personal experience in the car world.

It's worth noting that there's a large amount of pre 1980s cars that are cheap, have 0 electronics let alone DBW and are basically a blank canvas if you have an angle grinder and a welder. Any truck manufactured then will run until the heat death of the universe. They are incredibly simple and cheap to work on, and will continue running until something physically stops them. The issue is that when you get into this era, you start to dive into the classic car market, which is a maze to navigate that you don't want to deal with if you don't know cars

One thing I really wanna drive home here: Please, for the love of God, do not get into the toyota truck hype. Marketing has led to the internet loving these things, but everyone who I've known who's had one has had an absolute nightmare with theirs, ranging from snapped frames to cracked heads, stretched timing chains, corrosion ruining every line on the truck, constant overheating issues the list goes on. Don't buy the hype, you'll regret it.
 
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Tbh I’ve always wanted a challenger/charger hellcat ever since they came out. But ever since they became a very popular for car thieves. It kinda deterred me from buying a used one right before the pandemic prices went insane. I wonder what are some German alternatives to a hellcat
 
What Null really wants is an old '70s Datsun if he can find one. This dude dragged a Datsun out of a paddock where it had sat for years, and it started as soon as fuel was added. The whole video is pretty based, it's worth watching the whole thing.

 
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So someone of very fine character attempted and failed to steal my car overnight. I am now out a small corner rear window and an ignition.

Can someone point me in the right direction to fix this? Am pretty lost when it comes to ignition issues. Is this the "cylinder"? Am I going to need to replace the whole assembly? New keys?

Its a 2010 Mazda3.
 

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Based fellow Green enjoyer. The Bronco does have a good shade of green. I could see myself getting one in a few years since my Jeep shitbox is ready to die and people think they're worth upwards of $10k now. I bought mine for $1200 a few years ago to put that price into perspective.
Green is underloved in cars, especially dark green. It looks good on the Bronco, especially with the orange lights
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Looks like I could climb a mountain in this thing, probably could. I like how boxy and brick like it is, no curves or frills, it is a fucking wagon and proud of it
 
Can someone point me in the right direction to fix this? Am pretty lost when it comes to ignition issues. Is this the "cylinder"? Am I going to need to replace the whole assembly? New keys?

Its a 2010 Mazda3.
Looks like your ignition barrel is fucked, fren. Talk to an automotive locksmith. Whilst you could try replacing the barrel yourself with either a new one or one from a junked Mazda3, you'll most likely run into problems with the immobilizer if you don't have the right tools to recode it to work with the new barrel. Hopefully it won't be too expensive (though it'll be a lot cheaper than going to a dealer to fix).
 
Tbh I’ve always wanted a challenger/charger hellcat ever since they came out. But ever since they became a very popular for car thieves. It kinda deterred me from buying a used one right before the pandemic prices went insane. I wonder what are some German alternatives to a hellcat
Charger and Challengers are nigger cars. German alternatives would be stuff like the C215 CL55 AMG and W211 E55 AMG. They're reasonably cheap right now and can go 200k no problem.
 
German alternatives would be stuff like the C215 CL55 AMG and W211 E55 AMG. They're reasonably cheap right now and can go 200k no problem.
I'm pressing X to doubt. Modern day Benzes are absolute dogshit wrt reliability. You might squeeze 200k out of one, but you'll be constantly in and out of the shop (not to mention constantly broke). Though to be fair, modern Benzes are still less shit than modern BMWs. Just ask any poor schmuck that got sucked into buying an E60 M5.
 
I think he wants a truck for when he comes back to the states and unfortunately they never sold the diesel Ranger there. However the 4 cylinder models are very efficient and quite reliable, provided they’ve been taken care of. You won’t be hauling or towing much with them but for household chores or light work they’re plenty.
I dunno anything about the seppo Rangers. Rest of the world got rebadged Mazda trucks that go for decades
Can someone point me in the right direction to fix this?
I'm not writing an essay about this but watch this


This dude dragged a Datsun out of a paddock where it had sat for years, and it started as soon as fuel was added.
Story of my life
 
I'm pressing X to doubt. Modern day Benzes are absolute dogshit wrt reliability. You might squeeze 200k out of one, but you'll be constantly in and out of the shop (not to mention constantly broke). Though to be fair, modern Benzes are still less shit than modern BMWs. Just ask any poor schmuck that got sucked into buying an E60 M5.
Those two are mid 2000s peak Benz. The M113 V8 isn't really comparable to the S85 V10 in the E60 M5. There are many M113 equipped 55 AMG benz that have well over 150k miles and can no doubt last 200k+. I would take a gamble on a high mileage one over a Hellcat.
 
Picked up my Vantage today and drove it back carefully in the pissing down rain. Sadness now as I sit at home unable to play...

So there is no vehicle made without any drive-by-wire x-by-wire after the 2000s? If I want modern safety features without the built-in unsafety of a fucking computer controlling every facet of my vehicle I am just fucked?

Pretty much fucked. I hate DBW with a passion and it's one of the reasons I bought my model year S2000. For some reason people like lag in their inputs, and pressing the 'sport' button to remove that lag. I got shot of my Evora because the throttle response was shockingly bad thanks to 'safety' lag engineered into the DBW.
 
I can't fucking stand it, I got a car in Ireland last year after not driving since ~2016 and the roads there are super narrow so the fucking dashboard constantly, perpetually blinked warnings that I was near the paint and tried to jerk control of the steering wheel from me because it thought I was going off road because the roads are barely wider than the cars. There was no way to turn it off. I hated it so fucking goddamn much and it makes me angry just thinking about it.

I don't understand why modern crash safety + mechanical driving is not a thing that exists as an option. I'll fucking pay extra! I'll buy 50% over MSRP for some weird craft beer variety of car!

I can tolerate retard poz shit that's done in the name of progress for the sake of progress, but if you don't leave it as an option I will want to see your company destroyed and your head on a fucking stake.
 
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