Canada is a failed state

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Ser Prize said:
All these fuckers always caterwauling about not ceding land to USA, as if they didn't vote to cede this land to third world pajeets. Fuck 'em.
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This assumes a level of awareness they never processed. The television tells him what's true.
 
Flan Handler said:
These efforts will be mostly paperwork, fines, nagging emails- Canadian government has limited ability to project itself in the physical realm.
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One thing I could see that might happen is it could come down to them issuing arrest warrants for people with registered firearms that are now prohibited and who haven't turned them in, pretty slim chance that they'll be kicking down doors to go after those warrants and firearms (although who knows, the RCMP is full of insane people) but maybe one day they'll happen to pull someone over who has such a warrant and will arrest them at that point and bit by bit they'll do what they can to enforce this faggotry. I have to think though that as they go about doing that, they will eventually come under fire, literally, from some people and after a cop or two is killed I think a lot of people are gonna be reconsidering their role in enforcing any amount of these bans and confiscations.
Audit said:
there is no actual way for the RCMP to have the slightest idea who has a gun, how many guns, and who lied on paperwork.
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Kinda true, but there are restricted rifles that are registered and those are traceable to an owner, just like handguns. Those are problematic for you right now if you own them. Also they passed some shit a couple years ago I think where all newly sold rifles had to have almost every single detail you could think of put into a record system by whatever gun store you bought the rifle off of, so it's kind of a long gun registry, but hypothetically, it's my understanding that you can sell that rifle privately to someone immediately after you bought it from said gun store and the only record of that with the Canadian Firearms Program is that a transaction was made to another a gun owner, so they'll have a record of your license number and someone else's license number making a transaction, but that could be for any type of firearm and it could even be for ammo, so if you make enough of these transactions, there's really no way for them to know what you're moving and what you're receiving. And as far as buying a new rifle from a store, them keeping these very specific details of rifle model, serial number, and all of your personal info with the transaction, for the RCMP to get that info, that's going to require them to get gun store owners to give up that information, some store owners are queers, some will tell them to go to hell.
 
Audit said:
But, I would get a laugh if the whole Canadian military were tasked at combing every inch of Canada to find hidden weapons
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Operation magnet fishing
R9K Insurgent said:
One thing I could see that might happen is it could come down to them issuing arrest warrants for people with registered firearms that are now prohibited and who haven't turned them in,
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Wouldn't it make sense to allow those to keep them if they are already registered?
 
Just got my email from the feds:


NOTICE TO INDIVIDUAL FIREARMS OWNERS
ASSAULT-STYLE FIREARMS COMPENSATION PROGRAM (ASFCP)
The Canadian Firearms Program facilitated the delivery of this notification on behalf of Public Safety Canada and has not shared or disclosed any licence holder names, addresses or personal information with Public Safety Canada. Please ensure that your email is up-to-date with the Canadian Firearms Program to receive direct program updates. Alternatively, updates will be available at: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/campaigns/firearms-buyback.html
This notice is being sent to all holders of a valid Possession and Acquisition License (PAL).
As part of various actions and programs to tackle gun violence in Canadian communities, beginning in May 2020 the Government of Canada deemed prohibited more than 2,500 makes and models of firearms. Should you own one of these prohibited firearms, thank you for safely storing and not using that prohibited firearm.
In prohibiting these particular firearms, such as the AR-15, the Government of Canada also committed to compensate eligible businesses and PAL holders who are impacted.
The purpose of this notice is to provide you with the opportunity to be compensated should you own one or more of these prohibited firearms.
Over 12,000 of these prohibited firearms were successfully collected from businesses from across Canada. More than $22 million in compensation has been provided to these businesses.
To determine if you own a prohibited firearm, please search the list of 2,500 makes and models. The list is available at: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/campaigns/firearms-buyback.html
If you do not own one of these prohibited firearms, you do not need to do anything more.
If you do own one of these prohibited firearms, and you wish to participate in the ASFCP and apply for compensation, you must first declare the prohibited firearm(s) in your possession.
You may do so during the nation-wide declaration period, which begins on January 19th, 2026, and ends on March 31st, 2026. After March 31st, 2026, declaration requests will no longer be processed.
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This amnesty is scheduled to end on October 30th, 2026.
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Campbell_Trio said:
Wouldn't it make sense to allow those to keep them if they are already registered?
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Might as well ask me why do the Liberals continue to be stupid faggots. No it doesn't make sense because everything involving the banning and confiscation of legally owned firearms in this country is purely political and is fueled by the mental illness of people like Nathalie Provost who are still screeching about the Polytechnique shooting of 1989, and they don't want you to own things that they don't like. I hate to use the word because it's corny and overused, but the banning of virtually all semi automatic firearms in Canada over the last 6 years is tyrannical. I hope to God that Canadian gun owners can fight this to the bitter end if need be and not be compliant idiots like the Australians were.
 
R9K Insurgent said:
Also they passed some shit a couple years ago I think where all newly sold rifles had to have almost every single detail you could think of put into a record system by whatever gun store you bought the rifle off of, so it's kind of a long gun registry, but hypothetically, it's my understanding that you can sell that rifle privately to someone immediately after you bought it from said gun store and the only record of that with the Canadian Firearms Program is that a transaction was made to another a gun owner, so they'll have a record of your license number and someone else's license number making a transaction, but that could be for any type of firearm and it could even be for ammo, so if you make enough of these transactions, there's really no way for them to know what you're moving and what you're receiving. And as far as buying a new rifle from a store, them keeping these very specific details of rifle model, serial number, and all of your personal info with the transaction, for the RCMP to get that info, that's going to require them to get gun store owners to give up that information, some store owners are queers, some will tell them to go to hell.
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Ironically this one is actually isn't as insidious as made out. For starters it's part of the 2020 OICs which means it's overturned with the swipe of a pen. Second is twofold in that IIRC those gun store records of sale don't even mandate tracking the specific gun being sold for NR purchases (they record who bought a firearm on a given date with a given PAL/RPAL, but little beyond that) and the records are not centralized in the slightest as there's no federal database. Every store is only expected to maintain a record of sale for 20 years, which considering the number of guns being sold makes for one hell of a multi-decade clusterfuck for the RCMP to work through. And all that before considering if you've bought in a non-complying province those stores won't be handing over records anyway.

It's only Quebec where this really holds true since they do track NR sales in a provincial database (because of course the French do).

R9K Insurgent said:
but maybe one day they'll happen to pull someone over who has such a warrant and will arrest them at that point and bit by bit they'll do what they can to enforce this faggotry.
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This is the only thing I could see the Libs attempting in the later future to keep the issue simmering and Provost placated. Even then seriously doubt it will go too far since a few pro-firearms groups are waiting on that to kick off the next round of multi-year lawfare on the issue.

Flan Handler said:
Just got my email from the feds
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Still waiting on mine :story:
 
R9K Insurgent said:
Might as well ask me why do the Liber
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I think that was the original thread title
R9K Insurgent said:
people like Nathalie Provost who are still screeching about the Polytechnique shooting of 1989
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Feels a bit disgusting to only bring up that shooting when it comes time to farm support for gun bans. Honestly not mentioning polytech ever would be less insulting
 
R9K Insurgent said:
I hope to God that Canadian gun owners can fight this to the bitter end if need be and not be compliant idiots like the Australians were.
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Worst case scenario, it'll take 48 hours tops for the black market to smuggle guns back into Canada from the US. What will the feds do, secure the border? They picked tariffs over stopping jeets from crossing it a year back. I doubt they can even secure the section along the well-populated border with Vermont.
 
Audit said:
This doesn't even include guns that get illegally brought in from the US. Given the length of the US-Canadian border and the number of jeets crossing it every year, there is no actual way for the RCMP to have the slightest idea who has a gun, how many guns, and who lied on paperwork. Say I claim I own a "rifle" but it's actually 20 handguns smuggled across the border, now any attempts to fuck with me for firing off a few shots in the backwoods can keep getting pinned back on a rife that was legally obtained in Canada even if the RCMP come knocking. By all means, let them scour half the backwoods of Canada for any suspicious sheds, locked trunks, and disrupted earth. These gun compliance laws aren't enforceable outside of Toronto or another major metro area already filled with jeets.

But, I would get a laugh if the whole Canadian military were tasked at combing every inch of Canada to find hidden weapons. It's about all they're good for these days anyhow. What would they do if America invaded, write sternly worded letters about non-compliance with international law and threats of serious legal action should hostile acts of non-compliance continue?
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Don’t forget how many Indian reservations straddle the border.

There’s a healthy trade in firearms on the Rez, and they’ll sell to anyone with the cash.

As for anyone who doesn’t think the RCMP will kick in doors, look into the High River Gun Grab in 2013. Horrifying police-state shit, and they imported Mounties from Ontario and Quebec to Alberta to do it.
 

A Kamloops landowner has learned an expensive lesson that most British Columbians don’t even know exists: if you dig on your own property and uncover Indigenous remains, you could be on the hook for six-figure costs, with no help from the government and no clear way out.
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In the Kamloops case, in just seven months, the discovery has triggered more than $100,000 in legal and archeological costs on an empty parcel of land assessed at $440,000. The Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc have demanded more than $80,000 in additional fees, including 24-hour security provided by them at roughly double the normal rate.
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At the same time, the property has been declared an untouchable “sacred site” locked behind layers of provincial red tape and bureaucratic delay—all while duelling archeological reports suggest the two skulls in question may not have originated on the property at all, but were dumped there many years ago as imported fill under a previous owner.
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R9K Insurgent said:
Nathalie Provost who are still screeching about the Polytechnique shooting of 1989
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>Be Nathalie
>Your college gets shot up by a BROWN MUSLIM
>Learn nothing
>Use the tragedy to astroturf your political career
>Can't go 5 seconds without mentioning said tragedy
>Spend the rest of your miserable life alone and dedicated to making sure canadians will be easier to oppress.

I shit you not, I went to a engineering conference where she was a guest speaker, and someone, she made her speech about the shooting and how there's not enough wamen in engineering.
 
Betonhaus said:
Could China take BC just by signing treaties with the natives with land claims? By BC's own course rulings they are an illegitimate government so if China comes in having bought the rights they could kick the Canadian government off the land.
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You can't take something that you already have.
 
OutInTheRain said:
I was browsing Reddit, mostly to make myself angry when I came across this unhinged boomer rant in one of the Canadian subs

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This whole "be grateful to Canada and the jeets" reminds me of this scene from the hunger games
"Thirteen districts rebelled against the country that fed them, loved them, protected them." The scene is honestly kinda creep and very cult like, but big daddy government are the good guys right?
Audit said:
secure the border
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HEY THAT'S HATE SPEECH RIGHT THERE, PLEASE SELF-REPORT TO BIG DADDY XERSELF!!!
 
Betonhaus said:
Could China take BC just by signing treaties with the natives with land claims? By BC's own course rulings they are an illegitimate government so if China comes in having bought the rights they could kick the Canadian government off the land.
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I prefer CCP government over Canada. Yes. I mean it. CHINK SUPREMACY.
 
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