Canada is a failed state

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Brutality said:
And he undermined the federal campaign at every turn he could. Who needs enemies with friends like that right?
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Because having a government full of yes men is such a great thing
Brutality said:
>Can't speak for hardcore liberals
>repeats verbatim what liberals unironically say they want from a conservative
lmao
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Cool im not a hardcore liberal, you got any actual rebuttals or you just gonna greentext a circlejerk,
 
Campbell_Trio said:
Because having a government full of yes men is such a great thing
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There's being a yes man and there's being an open irritant to your own (supposed) side, Some federal conservative MPs don't like Doug Ford but they kept their mouths shut during the Ontario election. The fact Ford couldn't do the same indicates that he is the issue.
Campbell_Trio said:
Cool im not a hardcore liberal, you got any actual rebuttals or you just gonna greentext a circlejerk,
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"nooooo you can't just reduce my argument to a greentext!!!"
 
Brutality said:
There's being a yes man and there's being an open irritant to your own (supposed) side, Some federal conservative MPs don't like Doug Ford but they kept their mouths shut during the Ontario election. The fact Ford couldn't do the same indicates that he is the issue.

"nooooo you can't just reduce my argument to a greentext!!!"
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Ford's just jealous everyone likes his deceased crack head brother more than him.
 
Smith's deadline for Carney to take a stance on his pipeline promise and her demand for more control over immigration into Alberta has now passed.

Not a peep out of the Premier's Office today about it...will she actually do something or was her talk all a bluff?
 
The Cum Beast said:
I mean, if an election happened this early, there would definitely be Cucknadians who vote FOR the liberals "cuz those mean opposition parties forced an election." I cannot emphasis this enough, most Canadians don't think rationally and only think based on emotions and what is popular at the moment.

I remember a liberal teacher in high school that was teaching us about WW2, he said that fascism is a emotions based ideology, which is true in many ways, but that also applies to Canadian liberalism pretty well. He also talked about how authoritarian countries have symbols EVERYWHERE, and what do you know, Canadian stores are full of "buy Canadian" and "made in Canada" signs and stickers, and during the election period, "elbows up" was everywhere.
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Fascism as discussed in the West is literally a mixing of various tyrannical, democratic, monarchist, and military governments. It has no real definition. Most definitions are so vague that any system can fit into it. It’s fucking useless. You know the root word of Fascism? Fasces. A symbol predating Rome. It’s a punch of sticks tied together with an axe head at the center. It’s quite literally a symbol of many coming together for something (together we make a mighty faggot!) and the authority of Kings and rulers. In the US and France the fasces are ubiquitous. They appear fucking everywhere.

I hate the commies and faggots who got the reins of education. Franco should of killed all of the Abraham Lincoln brigade.
 
HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
You know the root word of Fascism? Fasces. A symbol predating Rome. It’s a punch of sticks tied together with an axe head at the center. It’s quite literally a symbol of many coming together for something (together we make a mighty faggot!) and the authority of Kings and rulers. In the US and France the fasces are ubiquitous. They appear fucking everywhere.
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FUCKING THANK YOU. Fascism is one of if not the single the most raped word in history. It pisses me off to no end to not only witness it being used improperly with no push back, but being forced to use it improperly to explain completely different ideologies to brainwashed faggots because everything that isn't good is Fascist in this country. The worst is when someone says "Fascist government" considering it isn't even a structure of rule, it's an ideology that, as you said, any system can be defined as so long as their focus is uniting a people under a single cause. It would be like calling the USA a "Liberty government".
 
harbringer883 said:
You also forget that the Quebec Separatist movement is predominantly left wing, so really they only want to have Quebec leave so they can have their hekkin eco friendly, multicultural, antifascist commune.
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Quebec Separatists are very traditionally left-wing which is to say they want their booze and smokes paid by somebody else so they never have to work. I’ve never met a separatist who valued a hard day’s work and likely never will.

That said, I’d vote to separate in a heartbeat to crash this godforesaken province with no survivors.
 
Canadian politics are just pathetic I am checked out at the moment.

However something kind of funny happened today.
Dealing with some estate issues, it’s a bit out of the ordinary, I’ve spent months getting contradictory information on the phone from FOB jeets and surly frenchies, so made an in-person appointment at my local Big 6 bank branch to get some help.

The banker was early thirties, white guy. Very nice, couldn’t do much directly but found out we have big brokerage accounts so he found some secret numbers and helped us call them looking for the right info. We got bounced around like a pinball from jeet to jeet until we got a Brad, at which point my branch employee said out loud to us “Yes! A white guy!” And sure enough Brad came through with some usable info.

My local Ryan had a disgusted face phoning around in his own company and getting handled by useless jeets, it was kind of funny. That he felt safe to make that comment was extraordinary, the fatigue is everywhere.
 
Flan Handler said:
Canadian politics are just pathetic I am checked out at the moment.

However something kind of funny happened today.
Dealing with some estate issues, it’s a bit out of the ordinary, I’ve spent months getting contradictory information on the phone from FOB jeets and surly frenchies, so made an in-person appointment at my local Big 6 bank branch to get some help.

The banker was early thirties, white guy. Very nice, couldn’t do much directly but found out we have big brokerage accounts so he found some secret numbers and helped us call them looking for the right info. We got bounced around like a pinball from jeet to jeet until we got a Brad, at which point my branch employee said out loud to us “Yes! A white guy!” And sure enough Brad came through with some usable info.

My local Ryan had a disgusted face phoning around in his own company and getting handled by useless jeets, it was kind of funny. That he felt safe to make that comment was extraordinary, the fatigue is everywhere.
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Local best buy said they dont even have an actual phone line to call anymore, you just gotta get bounced around by jeets until one finally connects you to your store or they solve your problem.

it's insane
 
Campbell_Trio said:
Local best buy said they dont even have an actual phone line to call anymore, you just gotta get bounced around by jeets until one finally connects you to your store or they solve your problem.

it's insane
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Had to cancel Rogers service a while back as the area I moved to was the territory of another Telecom (Fuck them but that's another rant).

Besides the cancelling procedure being impossible to find, luckily I got through and thank god it was a competent White man who only briefly tried to get me stay on at Rogers. I can only imagine the horrors if it was a Jeet customer service rep.
 
HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
Fascism as discussed in the West
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The definition of Fascism in the current zeitgeist is "outside the Liberal project".

There are a very narrow set of acceptable ideas: universal human rights, universal morality, universal humanity, international co-operation, anti-hierarchy. Essentially, anything that is outside or against creating a global human order where all are equal and the same regardless of origin is anathema.

If you are a conservative who in believes in the precepts above but thinks importing millions of people who reject universal rights and universal morality is a bad idea if you want to keep your society, you are a fascist because you have rejected the idea of magic soil tabula rasa. This is why Trump is a fascist, despite being someone who has not seized dictatorial power, taken control of all cultural organs, and created a state/private fusion of literally everything like the Italians did.
 
Flan Handler said:
Canadian politics are just pathetic I am checked out at the moment.

However something kind of funny happened today.
Dealing with some estate issues, it’s a bit out of the ordinary, I’ve spent months getting contradictory information on the phone from FOB jeets and surly frenchies, so made an in-person appointment at my local Big 6 bank branch to get some help.

The banker was early thirties, white guy. Very nice, couldn’t do much directly but found out we have big brokerage accounts so he found some secret numbers and helped us call them looking for the right info. We got bounced around like a pinball from jeet to jeet until we got a Brad, at which point my branch employee said out loud to us “Yes! A white guy!” And sure enough Brad came through with some usable info.

My local Ryan had a disgusted face phoning around in his own company and getting handled by useless jeets, it was kind of funny. That he felt safe to make that comment was extraordinary, the fatigue is everywhere.
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My parents are the very liberal types and I've even heard them say their annoyed that it's so hard to find an employee who speaks English over the phone
 
thefreshmaker said:
The definition of Fascism in the current zeitgeist is "outside the Liberal project".

There are a very narrow set of acceptable ideas: universal human rights, universal morality, universal humanity, international co-operation, anti-hierarchy. Essentially, anything that is outside or against creating a global human order where all are equal and the same regardless of origin is anathema.

If you are a conservative who in believes in the precepts above but thinks importing millions of people who reject universal rights and universal morality is a bad idea if you want to keep your society, you are a fascist because you have rejected the idea of magic soil tabula rasa. This is why Trump is a fascist, despite being someone who has not seized dictatorial power, taken control of all cultural organs, and created a state/private fusion of literally everything like the Italians did.
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I forget whose rule set is used to define fascism, but neither of us are the first to point out it’s a literal meaningless list. Umberto Eco, I think, who wrote a shitty novel and was effectively a reddit athiest on top of being a wop.

Italian fascism is not German National Socialism is not Spanish Francoism is not Soviet International Communism is not Maoism. Basically all these countries had in common was either a Civil War or Civil War-like conditions paving a way for a new power that centralized power for itself. Basically every fucking new government to ever exist. I’d argue that the International Communist movements are more totalitarian and anti-human.
 
HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
I’d argue that the International Communist movements are more totalitarian and anti-human.
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I'd argue even the Liberal state is. Fascist Italy would not be entirely alien to people in the West today.

The drapes and lighting has changed, but you still lose your job writing a newspaper article that is critical of the dominant ideology. The media and public arts are filled with the edifices of the regime, just replace Mussolini's face on the Palazzo Braschi with fat black women on a Nike billboard. The state has made it's purview all cultural, political, economic, social and household activities, nothing escapes it's gaze.

The state is not concerned with, well, concerns. Instead it is concerned with the structures that power it, cultural control of media, of information, etc. It is not concerning to have crime. It is not concerning to have economic downturn. It is concerning to have people perceive and discuss, and thus discredit, the regime which theoretically could prevent it and so implicitly endorses it through inaction.

Additionally, the power of mass media and speed of communication has made penetrating the walls of your domicile not only easy, but readily done with your consent. Mussolini only really needed to care about shaping opinion of the elites in the big cities, because they controlled the papers and therefore the expression and thoughts of those in the centers of popular concentration. It did not matter if someone in a village away from Rome organized a local anti-Fascist group, because this would not be spreading where it was not allowed to talk.

Now that village can post and be heard globally, but likewise a Mussolini can both identify that rural villager and send the gendarmes after them with complete ease.
 
thefreshmaker said:
The definition of Fascism in the current zeitgeist is "outside the Liberal project".

There are a very narrow set of acceptable ideas: universal human rights, universal morality, universal humanity, international co-operation, anti-hierarchy. Essentially, anything that is outside or against creating a global human order where all are equal and the same regardless of origin is anathema.

If you are a conservative who in believes in the precepts above but thinks importing millions of people who reject universal rights and universal morality is a bad idea if you want to keep your society, you are a fascist because you have rejected the idea of magic soil tabula rasa. This is why Trump is a fascist, despite being someone who has not seized dictatorial power, taken control of all cultural organs, and created a state/private fusion of literally everything like the Italians did.
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thefreshmaker said:
I'd argue even the Liberal state is. Fascist Italy would not be entirely alien to people in the West today.

The drapes and lighting has changed, but you still lose your job writing a newspaper article that is critical of the dominant ideology. The media and public arts are filled with the edifices of the regime, just replace Mussolini's face on the Palazzo Braschi with fat black women on a Nike billboard. The state has made it's purview all cultural, political, economic, social and household activities, nothing escapes it's gaze.

The state is not concerned with, well, concerns. Instead it is concerned with the structures that power it, cultural control of media, of information, etc. It is not concerning to have crime. It is not concerning to have economic downturn. It is concerning to have people perceive and discuss, and thus discredit, the regime which theoretically could prevent it and so implicitly endorses it through inaction.

Additionally, the power of mass media and speed of communication has made penetrating the walls of your domicile not only easy, but readily done with your consent. Mussolini only really needed to care about shaping opinion of the elites in the big cities, because they controlled the papers and therefore the expression and thoughts of those in the centers of popular concentration. It did not matter if someone in a village away from Rome organized a local anti-Fascist group, because this would not be spreading where it was not allowed to talk.

Now that village can post and be heard globally, but likewise a Mussolini can both identify that rural villager and send the gendarmes after them with complete ease.
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Really just replace this with Carney's face.
 
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