Canada is a failed state

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A lot of doomposting so let me add to the doom. Are there any solutions, other then leave the country or endure whatever uncertainty happens next?
My goal for as long as I can remember has been to just own some property and have a normal family. Seemed perfectly achievable even ten years ago.

I'm at a point in my life where I feel this is the last opportunity I have to make a major pivot, and I'm torn. All my friends since childhood are here, established, own property, they tell me it's foolish to go anywhere, just nose to the grinder and hope for the best. Unlike them though, I had some severe issues for the first ten years of my adult life that made me start the rat race late, I didn't manage to grab property before the average price of a home became over a million dollars, and working a residential construction job, I likely will never afford one at this rate. Same thing with my goals, the vast majority of women I've known or talk to aren't marriage material if I'm being honest, to the point where none of the decent women any of my close friends managed to find have any female friends of their own they could recommend.

Every year there's less work, if houses aren't being sold, then no new ones are being built despite there being a housing crisis. One of our three brigades just got fired because there's simply nothing to do, we've spent most of spring without any work whatsoever.
My neighbourhood is getting browner, I forgot when was the last time I've seen a single white person in any pizza, fast food place or anywhere you'd usually find highschool/college students try to earn an income. Since I've had nothing to do for months on end I've applied for other jobs including warehouse, security and forklift work but haven't received any responses at all besides one that offered me a severely gimped wage at another location the next town over. Last I heard from one of my family friends, their son works as delivery driver out of desperation and noticed absolutely every single security guard in every condo is an Indian. An entire line of work outsourced to an imported race. Then I had a younger friend tell me how happy he was that he gets to grandfather an old rent lease since the rent prices would be 40% lower than what they currently are. Not a house, not property, a rent agreement. His situation is much bleaker than mine, I do not understand how people younger than me get by.

In many ways the writing is on the wall, I'm of the opinion that it won't get any better anytime soon, it's only going to get much worse. I don't see a future or any way of achieving what I want out of life here. Yet I also cannot imagine uprooting myself and leaving all I know, and everyone I know to leave for an more uncertain future. I don't even know if moving is a viable option for an unskilled labourer. Where would you even go?
My gut is telling me there's no hope and the future is bleak and it's time to pack up and leave, yet everyone I know personally tells me my gut is wrong and just endure, everything will magically sort itself out, I'll be a family man with a cozy house in no time just give it another indeterminate amount of years. I'm completely lost as to what to do and frankly demoralized to hell and back.
 
KingElizabeth said:
Are there any solutions, other then leave the country or endure whatever uncertainty happens next?
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In all seriousness canada is in a terminal death spiral and is not going to recover, if your post isn't made up I would suggest moving you are in a prime position to do so compared to someone who is already settled
 
Turkey Beef said:
Carney will go around telling the unenlightened masses that a male arm being rammed up to the elbow into another man’s anus is “love," and also the upmost important example of Canadian values.
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Carney is nothing if not prophetic in his retardation: https://xcancel.com/WSOnlineNews/status/1931052605050085558
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Also in Canadian news is the bill C-2:
• The bill allows police to open your mail — without a search warrant.
• It lets police contact any Internet-based company, to get all of your account details including your name, address, online nicknames and other invasive details — without a search warrant.
• And it even makes it a crime to do transactions above $10,000 using cash.
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geckogoy said:
In all seriousness canada is in a terminal death spiral and is not going to recover, if your post isn't made up I would suggest moving you are in a prime position to do so compared to someone who is already settled
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what would be the best countries or states to do so? this retardation is almost global in scope
 
geckogoy said:
In all seriousness canada is in a terminal death spiral and is not going to recover, if your post isn't made up I would suggest moving you are in a prime position to do so compared to someone who is already settled
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Where does one go, though? Especially a Worker ($) and not an Owner ($$$)

Western Europe is out; expensive and the browns flooding Germany, France, the UK, etc. are worse than ours. Maybe you can get a forklifting job in Eastern Europe, but lots of people there are leaving for the West which doesn't bode well. America has several advantages but also some major disadvantages (we have Jane-Finch, they have several entire nogtropolis cities). Russia/Ukraine are a no-go right now. Anyone that says 'I'm gonna go live like a king in Thailand/Colombia/Bali/Kenya' never comes across as serious to me. You're gonna flee a fading first-world country for an outright third-world one?
 
KingElizabeth said:
I'm at a point in my life where I feel this is the last opportunity I have to make a major pivot, and I'm torn. All my friends since childhood are here, established, own property, they tell me it's foolish to go anywhere, just nose to the grinder and hope for the best. Unlike them though, I had some severe issues for the first ten years of my adult life that made me start the rat race late, I didn't manage to grab property before the average price of a home became over a million dollars, and working a residential construction job, I likely will never afford one at this rate. Same thing with my goals, the vast majority of women I've known or talk to aren't marriage material if I'm being honest, to the point where none of the decent women any of my close friends managed to find have any female friends of their own they could recommend.
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If you want my honest advice, you already said it. If you feel youre at the last point in life to make a major pivot (myself included, and ditto with a tough 10 years), now is the time.

With your skills, I won't say go abroad necessarily, as its something tough psychologically to pick up and start in a new country entirely.

My advice for you however would be, if you have something of a career, if you have some money saved, etc- go for one big concept right now. Future stability and money. Now is the time to forge forward towards that.

Where can you get that? In my opinion, look domestically within Canada, but at other provinces.

If I were in construction in Onterrible, for instance, I'd either be looking out west to the plains, north, or to the Maritimes. Find a small town, find a job you can do, start a proper life there, and get away from all the hustle and bustle.

If you want something, try the east coast. Move out to Nova Scotia. Nothing there? Go to the north, head to the Yukon, go somewhere out of urban Canada, basically. Now is the time. If you don't like it, come back. If you do like it, if the pace of life is easier, stay.

The biggest challenge now is financial, so that should be your top goal. To find a stable career related to what youre already doing. You're already halfway there, so good job. Next, find a place where that money can be stretched, and actually gets you a decent life for what it is that you're doing.

You won't get this opportunity in 5 years, let alone 10, so nows the time to figure it out if youre able.

Will Canada get its shit together? Honestly, I don't know or care to find out myself. Treat it like it won't. If its not going to figure its shit out, the best place to be is one away from the big cities, and where, as a result of that, your rent actually goes father and people are more self-reliant, imo.
BulkForceFive said:
Anyone that says 'I'm gonna go live like a king in Thailand/Colombia/Bali/Kenya' never comes across as serious to me. You're gonna flee a fading first-world country for an outright third-world one?
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I did that, though not going to say where.

If you want the pros and cons, I can tell you them in more detail. I will say that its worked out better than if I stayed in Canada, even with limited skills on my part. Sucks that I still have to pay taxes and do though.

Where Im at now though, is Id like to earn some cash- so its the gulf states next. I just get the feeling that over the next several years, I don't want to just be making it, I want to be thriving.

Things are honestly better in the 2nd world in a lot of ways. The big problem is not living in it in your 20s and 30s, which is very viable, fun, cool, based, sigma, or whatever you want 1749934328475.webp
There is legitimately a wide world out there, embrace it.

The problem however is what do you do after your 30s? What do you do after your body starts to slow down, when you start having major health problems, how do you settle down and start a family, etc.

2nd world rocks, till you hit these hard notes. So there, the question is more do you want to settle down in the developing world? Not really, unless its somewhere like the first world, or you have a lot of money.

In a way, it all comes back to maybe you should stay in Canada, return there eventually, etc- but just make sure that for whatever you plan, you plan long term basically.
 
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I know people in Kimberley B.C. (slightly isolated town near the AB/BC border) and alot of the residents just straight up trade services now.

They used too be a bustling ski town, but fell due too pricing etc. the local skate manufacturer now helps owners with signage, CNC work etc... and in return gets free meals for x amount of time, a good word, and some semblance of community.

It's still my belief that anything with 75km of a "major" city is cancer, or will fall too it. The Greater Vancouver area used too be for growing families, now you need a Vancouver paycheck for sub-par services.

It's out there, it's just a matter of finding your fill.
 
KingElizabeth said:
I had some severe issues for the first ten years of my adult life that made me start the rat race late,
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KingElizabeth said:
My gut is telling me there's no hope and the future is bleak and it's time to pack up and leave, yet everyone I know personally tells me my gut is wrong and just endure, everything will magically sort itself out, I'll be a family man with a cozy house in no time just give it another indeterminate amount of years. I'm completely lost as to what to do and frankly demoralized to hell and back.
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Sounds like we have a lot in common. Though I stalled out for a shorter period of time, have some credentials, and have generally geared my direction in life to achieve escape velocity from Canada.

My number one ichi-ban advice to you, is to 'run towards something, not away from something'. If you see somewhere abroad that would honestly make you happier and give you a shot at doing whatever you are talented at, then you should go. But if you're just trying to avoid the apocalypse, you should probably stay. Being an unskilled labourer in a foreign land with no assets is a recipe for abuse, better off where you have a social network; competent labour is going to increase in desirability, even if they tax you 100% for it. Now you know why Jews become doctors and keep piles of money.

I often hear people speculate about Eastern Europe or Japan or buying a boat or whatever. I always tell them the same. Whatever you choose is going to be hard, so you may as well choose what you actually want.

Lots of people try to live on sail boats, do you know which ones stick with it? People who like sailing. The ones who do it to 'live free' or 'live cheap' can't handle the drawbacks and give up after a year.
 
Turkey Beef said:
Also in Canadian news is the bill C-2:
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Wait, fuck, isn't bill C-2 the 'Strong borders Bill? The one all the immigrant activist groups are losing their minds over because it limits citizenship?
God damnit! Carney you fucking nog! Is you he incapable of not immediately contradicting everything he does/says?

Jesus, genuinely starting to feel like the dude's trying to be the living embodiment of the Canadian governmental institution with how duplicitous his behaviour's been.
Literally praises Hamas Islamic virtues in one conference and then turns around to go praise Zion Israel's right to defense the next and people will still blindly ignore the blatant two facedness solely by virtue of him being Liberal
 
WanderingWalker said:
Jesus, genuinely starting to feel like the dude's trying to be the living embodiment of the Canadian governmental institution with how duplicitous his behaviour's been.
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I mean, at least he’s upfront about it?

Look the bar is comically low after the last decade. I’m stuck here, I might as well try and be entertained by the shitshow.
 
KingElizabeth said:
In many ways the writing is on the wall, I'm of the opinion that it won't get any better anytime soon, it's only going to get much worse. I don't see a future or any way of achieving what I want out of life here. Yet I also cannot imagine uprooting myself and leaving all I know, and everyone I know to leave for an more uncertain future. I don't even know if moving is a viable option for an unskilled labourer. Where would you even go?
My gut is telling me there's no hope and the future is bleak and it's time to pack up and leave, yet everyone I know personally tells me my gut is wrong and just endure, everything will magically sort itself out, I'll be a family man with a cozy house in no time just give it another indeterminate amount of years. I'm completely lost as to what to do and frankly demoralized to hell and back.
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It probably won't get better but you also really shouldn't leave for a smaller city because everything you dislike will just be magnified. If you can move to America, great.
 
BulkForceFive said:
Western Europe is out; expensive and the browns flooding Germany, France, the UK, etc. are worse than ours. Maybe you can get a forklifting job in Eastern Europe, but lots of people there are leaving for the West which doesn't bode well. America has several advantages but also some major disadvantages (we have Jane-Finch, they have several entire nogtropolis cities). Russia/Ukraine are a no-go right now. Anyone that says 'I'm gonna go live like a king in Thailand/Colombia/Bali/Kenya' never comes across as serious to me. You're gonna flee a fading first-world country for an outright third-world one?
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Young LBH type passport bros say 2nd world countries on an upswing are the place now but seems like a horny obsession with SE asia and euro nations like Romania where they can boss women around. In my shitty age group I know a number of professional anglo Canadians saying fuck it and moving to Mexico. All that is required is no criminal record and proof you have $250k in the bank. Steep and that's to get into a place like fucking Mexico because even though its Mexico they actually still care and have standards about who they allow in unlike Canada.

Anywhere in West Europe could become the next migrant crisis, next cost of living crisis and is either way fucked by demographics, taxation, EU leadership and WEF along with medieval era attitudes twords business. In the case of Eastern Europe anywhere can turn into the next theatre of war.

Unnogged America always seems ideal but read the news. You get charged or convicted of a crime even parking tickets or insulting Israel you can be deported. a MAGA deputy doesn't like you all they have to do is loose your paperwork and say you're in a gang to put you on a plane to El Salvador. Spend the rest of your life in a concentration camp that pretends to be a prison. Maybe after a few years you can call the consulate and your situation will be explained to a babblnig phone pajeet in Ottawa who thinks that if you get to come back to Canada that's one less of their family that can come to Canada so they'll loose your paperwork too.
 
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