Canada is a failed state

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I hate to admit it, seeing the amount of people unite under Canada is a bit nice; But that doesn't make me forget the last 20 years of our government and Laurentian elite braying about we should feel ashamed of our "colonial" past. Top that off with Trudeau saying we have no identity. If anything, Trudeau should be thanking Trump for his Tariff threats. Many Canadians will suffer from amnesia and only remember him now for "standing up to Trump" on his way out.

Yes I felt the same way. The petty nationalism is nice but it's all for fake and gay reasons.

I already did try to buy local anyway. Support Ontario wines (Prince Edward County, or North Shore Lake Erie) over California, French, South American or Italian wines.

@AverageRussianSpy at least Trudeau gave a standing ovation to a SS WarHero (Pierre would never do it)

 

[Tetra]

But that doesn't make me forget the last 20 years of our government and Laurentian elite braying about we should feel ashamed of our "colonial" past.

Yes I felt the same way. The petty nationalism is nice but it's all for fake and gay reasons.

It is crazy how one week politicians can go on and on about how your country doesn't exist and people should feel bad about ever having had any pride in it
then the next week do a 180 saying we do have a country treating nationalism and patriotism like a switch, they can just turn on or off at will.

I think the real tragedy is that it's practically working on some of the dumber people. This will just encourage treating canadians like garbage knowing full well they will back you should it become necessary.

 

[Ser Prize]

There has to be some kind of a way to bypass Quebec and build the pipeline. Or just do away with equalization payment altogether and watch them crawl back and beg for one.

Why isn't there anyone willing to do the hard shit and make the necessary changes. Canada can't be babysitting Quebec forever. Same with New Brunswick.

The need to know french to have a govt position heavily slants the government towards Quebec, plus they have a ton of ridings.

They're a cancer, but they're a cancer on the brain stem. Very unfortunate situation.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Make no mistake, Quebec is about as much of a failed state as the rest of Canada. Even one of the old separatists Landry was against the idea of equalization payments. It encourages Quebec to sit on its ass, play subsidy nanny state while making private enterprise fail. Many of these nanny state projects like Northvolt are abject failures.

And to see how the nanny state goes, the period known as the "Grande Noirceur" under Premier Maurice Duplessis might be not so dark after all.

 

[BeetleBug242]

The one time Canada celebrated itself in 25 years was used to spite America… whom we folded to in days… everyone left in Canada is super slow and dumb, I bet they think a liberal votes gonna help!

 

[REMEMBER YOUR PASSWORD]

ignore this post lmao

 

[Troon Meet Noose]

I hate to admit it, seeing the amount of people unite under Canada is a bit nice; But that doesn't make me forget the last 20 years of our government and Laurentian elite braying about we should feel ashamed of our "colonial" past. Top that off with Trudeau saying we have no identity. If anything, Trudeau should be thanking Trump for his Tariff threats. Many Canadians will suffer from amnesia and only remember him now for "standing up to Trump" on his way out.

I'm never going to forget that Canada hates normal white anglo males like myself.

I wish Trump's demands in a month to prevent the tariffs would be for Canada to stop wasting money on DEI and to join the US in declaring only two genders - male and female.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

How true are the arguments that Canada allies itself with China and is a vector for Chinese Fentanyl smuggling into the USA?

 

[CowBoyCormack]

How true are the arguments that Canada allies itself with China and is a vector for Chinese Fentanyl smuggling into the USA?

I think its something like 1% of fent comes from Canada.

But on the Chinese alignment, that part is 100% true. Trudeau fetishized China and his way into liberal party leadership was that he was going to be 'our guy to tie us to China and the future'. China has legitimately bought out half the country, our natural resources, and even bribes our politicians.

We literally have Chinese triads here now, and even Chinese 'special police' who have picked up Chinese nationals, to bring them to embassies, and to face non-crimes in Canada, which are crimes in China.

We are largely on the road to becoming a Chinese client state.

Though the fent is fake I guess

 

[OutInTheRain]

How true are the arguments that Canada allies itself with China and is a vector for Chinese Fentanyl smuggling into the USA?

China does meddle in our politics, and especially with the Chinese diaspora, which they use to spy on Canada and steal tech. Usually through a mix of bribery and coercion. As for Canada we do have a massive organized crime problem, that we just ignore, and have ignored for ages. As well any res near the border has right of free movement, so the res members can cross without going to customs. So if you were wondering how the native smokes were getting in, that's it. As well as drugs and weapons.

I do suspect that part of the fent accusation is to prevent the fent smuggling from moving north and taking advantage of a porous northern border.

Anecdotally I know people used to take the logging roads in New Brunswick to sneak across the border, buy smokes, booze and ammo and then sneak back across.

 

[Deleterious Swine]

If there were a secret plan to separate for the past 100 years, why has the electorate voted for parties stating they are against separation repeatedly? If something makes Quebec separate at this point, it will be the unasked for pajeet invasions sponsored by the Liberal feds or Trudeau's wanton abandon on a bunch of problems.

Well for one, it's not a secret. For two, the Bloc Quebecois is going to win in PQ again, and it is indeed a separatist party (that is, all of the separatist referendums happened under Bloc influence). For three, the separatist provincial parties do not usually win because separatism is generally more of a rural conservative thing there - that is, QC and most of rural Quebec vote for it, but Montréal does not. The latest winners, the CAQ are not outwardly separatist but they are very happy to keep Quebec's administrative government system separate from the rest of Canada's. They refer to themselves as "Quebec Nationalists". I mean, how much more plain do they need to make it? If the opportunity for independence (annexation) arises, they can most certainly be expected to take it.

And four, Quebec was the first to raise the alarm about immigration and they experience immigration differently. Most immigrants (particularly from India) prefer English Canada because India has strong ties to the UK, and not so strong ties to the French. Weirdly, in QC you will see black immigrants from Barbados unlike anywhere else in English Canada.

Agree with all the stuff about failed state though. An independent Quebec would be supremely fucked. They are up to something like 18 Billion neetbux received from transfer payments. The only thing stopping them from fully divorcing would be their huge share of debt and reliance on the west as a leech-province.

 

[Konig]

I think its something like 1% of fent comes from Canada.

Isn't that 1% number just what is seized at the border? If we assume everything is proportional, then sure, but is that really a fair assumption? Just comparing the size of the border, shouldn't it be far more easy to sneak by unnoticed in the north than the south? How do we know the southern border isn't just better at its job? Then factor in the personnel and precursors. Chemicals don't come with tags telling you where they were manufactured.

1% is just the cope.

And it shouldn't matter when that 1% can kill millions of people.

 

[CowBoyCormack]

And it shouldn't matter when that 1% can kill millions of people.

Sure

1% is just the cope.

Okay

Isn't that 1% number just what is seized at the border?

idk but if you have a better way of measuring it go for it


Don't get mad at me, noone asked what I thought about how dangerous fentanyl is, just what percentage may come from Canada lol

 

[Lord Xenu]

idk but if you have a better way of measuring it go for it

I agree with what you're saying, but it's hard to find and measure something if nobody is looking. During the firearms & car theft scandal the cbsa said they were stopping like a single digit percentage of trucks and zero percent of freight cars due to funding. IDK about the ports specifically but I would imagine the same applies.

I would assume that pre-cursors are the big deal and they are flowing in freely. The US market is very lucrative. Smuggler's expect to lose 9 out of 10 shipments, and that rate improves significantly across the US/Canada border. On darknet markets, items within North America were sold at a higher price because they were much more likely to arrive without any hassle. Sellers would advertise in the title "Shipping From Canada".

If pre-cursors are freely available in Canada, it makes it much more profitable than shipping a finished product from a lawless country. Packages under 30 grams receive less scrutiny, and 30 grams of pure fentanyl is a hell of a lot of fentanyl. IDK the exact numbers, but fentanyl on the street is probably like 1 part pure, to 500 buffer. Often, pure fentanyl seized at the border, is conflated with adulterated fentanyl, seized at street level.

I'm just trying to point out that the situation is more complex than what is being portrayed in the media.

 

[Konig]

Sure

Okay

idk but if you have a better way of measuring it go for it

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Don't get mad at me, noone asked what I thought about how dangerous fentanyl is, just what percentage may come from Canada lol

I'm not mad at you, I'm pointing out the 1% line is a case of lies, damned lies, and statistics.

I'm just trying to point out that the situation is more complex than what is being portrayed in the media.

What he said.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Literally every Facebook Costco groups are like this.

Embarrassing as fuck.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

You are close to a Nation that is ascending again (White Americans) that you are almost identical genetically and culturally to.

Yes, but immigration laws and travel laws were tightened for Canadians after 9/11. It used to be you could enter the U.S with only a driver's licence. And it was apparently easier for Canadians to work in the U.S.

9/11 fucked things so hard. Canadians have always loved shopping, vacationing, living and working in the U.S.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Yes, but immigration laws and travel laws were tightened for Canadians after 9/11. It used to be you could enter the U.S with only a driver's licence. And it was apparently easier for Canadians to work in the U.S.

9/11 fucked things so hard. Canadians have always loved shopping, vacationing, living and working in the U.S.

Border towns got totally wrecked after 9/11. Free money was gone and only one who suffered was CANADA.

Trump doesn't even need to implement 25% tariff to crush Canada. He just needs to close the border and we are finished.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Border towns got totally wrecked after 9/11. Free money was gone and only one who suffered was CANADA.

Trump doesn't even need to implement 25% tariff to crush Canada. He just needs to close the border and we are finished.

As a child I remember us flocking to the Buffalo outlet malls pre-9/11. It was always swelling with people from Ontario. 9/11 passport requirements slowed the amount of shoppers considerably. Security crossing he border became insane as well. But no one got fucked harder than Canadian outlets Americans sometimes visited. They were left to rot.

Clifton Hill was like a little Vegas in the year 2000 and a lot cleaner and family oriented to attract U.S tourists. Now it's a dump. The last time I went to Niagara falls on our side of the border in Ontario was in 2019 it it was filled with homeless people, Muslims that weren't spending anything and had large families and pajeets. What a dump. Total 180 since my childhood. The buffets are absolutely horrible now too.

 

[MS-09 DOM]

Thread tangent;

Recently had some more snowfall in my area, and one thing I noticed is only white people outdoors, clearing sidewalks, and enjoying the "great white north".

Haven't seen any pajeets outside since, now my question is how far north do I need to go?