Canada is a failed state

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Rainbow Child said:
In that case, he would be dictator, without parliamentary accountability, until either the King fires him or the emergency is over. That would be hilarious if Sparkle Socks played Cheetoh Blumpf into handing him dictatorial powers in Canada. A "tariff war" with the USA would be grounds for War Measures indefinitely.
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Kind of hard to be a dictator when everyone wants you gone and the only country you share a land border with also wants you gone. You are getting it from all sides in that situation.
 
My conspiracy brain says that stupid "rumor" was a last minute psyop to purposefully confuse Canadians. Perhaps it was considered and backed down once leaked but I kind of doubt it. All of the articles did not repeat the headline itself and used the same confusing phrasing saying "tariffs on Saturday" - without mention of the actual date of Saturday itself. That's not even proper news article structure and I personally saw three different news media groups with the exact same wording. I realize they copy and paste but not one of them decided to edit the copy to clearly state dates when the headline directly opposes past known dates, which should be written in full for archival purposes. Why was this garbage copy repeated so many times with next to no fact checking or editing? I realize the media is shit, I realize it's Canadian news but fuck that's honestly more embarrassing for us than anything else.

Now I keep reading comments like "but they just said March two hours ago, guess they still don't really know, call me when it happens"

Sounds like a great time to for a grand reveal of something even more fucked up since they easily proved how stupid Canadians can be by feeding them bullshit. I am MATI for this one, conspiracy or not.
 
mindlessobserver said:
Kind of hard to be a dictator when everyone wants you gone and the only country you share a land border with also wants you gone. You are getting it from all sides in that situation.
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If were lucky, it brings the number of people in the prairie provinces who are willing to join America if it means less madness to at least 51%
 
mindlessobserver said:
Kind of hard to be a dictator when everyone wants you gone and the only country you share a land border with also wants you gone. You are getting it from all sides in that situation.
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I'm just laying out the facts as recorded in the documents and interpolating thence the only realistic way that his intentions could change, not speculating. But for the sake of fun, let's imagine that's what happens: kind of easy to put the screws to anyone who wants you gone when your first order of business is to enact CERB-UBI and the guy across the border has your people dependent on it. As for that guy, who also wants you gone, "thanks, bro, that's exactly what I need to legally perpetuate this."

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Hot Potato said:
Its horrifying how many people want to start a trade war with the US.
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Totallyunknown said:
My conspiracy brain says that stupid "rumor" was a last minute psyop to purposefully confuse Canadians. Perhaps it was considered and backed down once leaked but I kind of doubt it. All of the articles did not repeat the headline itself and used the same confusing phrasing saying "tariffs on Saturday" - without mention of the actual date of Saturday itself. That's not even proper news article structure and I personally saw three different news media groups with the exact same wording. I realize they copy and paste but not one of them decided to edit the copy to clearly state dates when the headline directly opposes past known dates, which should be written in full for archival purposes. Why was this garbage copy repeated so many times with next to no fact checking or editing? I realize the media is shit, I realize it's Canadian news but fuck that's honestly more embarrassing for us than anything else.

Now I keep reading comments like "but they just said March two hours ago, guess they still don't really know, call me when it happens"

Sounds like a great time to for a grand reveal of something even more fucked up since they easily proved how stupid Canadians can be by feeding them bullshit. I am MATI for this one, conspiracy or not.
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The 2nd Trump administration has been shockingly good at preventing leaks, and it's only getting tighter with him purging career bureaucrats. I suspect the March story was someone coping.
 
SandM_ said:
Is Canada actually gonna suffer its own great depression or is everyone here just doomposting since the country is already shit?
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Depends. Do you think Canada can win a trade war with the US?
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SandM_ said:
Is Canada actually gonna suffer its own great depression or is everyone here just doomposting since the country is already shit?
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The US is our largest trade partner by far, but a lot of what we sell to the US isn't exactly luxury goods (potash, energy, and oil) . There are obviously some industries that the U.S. would prefer to have in-country (like car manufacturing). We will likely see a downturn in the automotive industry, and if these tariffs apply to energy/oil, both the U.S. and Canada will be in for bit of a rough time. We don't really have the infrastructure to sell our energy/oil elsewhere. Similarly, it's not so easy to spin up a brand new power plant.

Just a guess, but I would suspect it would hurt both countries, but Canada more so. No one really knows for sure what the long term effects will be, and anyone who does is lying, either to themselves or to you.
 
Tonchinkan Feast said:
Just a guess, but I would suspect it would hurt both countries, but Canada more so. No one really knows for sure what the long term effects will be, and anyone who does is lying, either to themselves or to you.
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Its going to do nasty things to the CAD which has already been suffering for years now. Trade exports in raw materials the USA is largely what keeps the CAD afloat.
 
mindlessobserver said:
Its going to do nasty things to the CAD which has already been suffering for years now. Trade exports in raw materials the USA is largely what keeps the CAD afloat.
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This is going to kill a handful of small towns I know of that rely on gas, water and wood for exports, prince george where I used to live had two pulp mills shut down out of 4 iirc so they are just cooked and they will most likely never recover leaving a ghost town. Just speculating through.
 
Its really crazy. Trudeau could go down to DC right now and talk to Trump. The man is so easy to please. I'm not really sure what Ottawa's end game is in trying to take the Bull by the horns.
 
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