Canada is a failed state

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AngryAboutInternets said:
This shit has been a looooooong time coming, and there's far too much inertia to change anything now. The only way would be a civil war, and if there was a civil war the USA would just step in right away to annex us anyway because they can't risk us becoming a Russian/Chinese puppet state (more than we already are).
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It's pretty clear they took the US relationship for granted. Friendly relationships require work and reciprocity too maintain. And the moment a breakdown starts happening the solution is to not say how evil the other side is and threaten to go hang out with their enemies
 
mindlessobserver said:
And the moment a breakdown starts happening the solution is to not say how evil the other side is and threaten to go hang out with their enemies
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Especially not when the other side is the most powerful country on Earth and you have a military that would get rolled by a mid-sized African nation in a land war. It's suicidally insane.
 
ForTheHoard said:
I like Canada, and I want Canada to succeed, but wouldn't all this shit with tariffs would go away if you guys would stop letting people use your country as a relay for fentanyl mules and Chinese spies? It wouldn't even require a huge political or cultural shift, and the infrastructure to deal with it already exists.
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I think a primary issue with this is that most people in Canada are so Laissez-faire about everything political. For instance a majority of people don't watch the news anymore, or let alone read into current events. Trying too talk too other Canadians around my age is painful since the only "news aggregators" they use are Facebook and Reddit.

And on the topic of Facebook, alot of Americans/internationals have forgotten that all news sources are banned on the platform. So on top of people not caring too pay attention, they let idle memes or left swinging news sources too tell them about what's going on.

It's kind of a relief finding a forum structure online too actually have discourse about current events in this country. Unfortunately I find a majority of the population are comfortable with their heads in the sand.
 
Even if you think Trump is evil, in that interpretation of events it's the equivalent of a robber going to kill your dog if you refuse to give up your wallet (which the contents of is insured and your cards have fraud protection). Trudeau is absolutely refusing to give up the wallet.
 
AngryAboutInternets said:
The bottom level, the baseline rule of politics is military power. If you have no military power, you do not have a seat at the table of politics when the real business gets done. Any politician should know that, but apparently ours are even dumber than the ones they elect over in the third world.
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To be fair most Canadian politicians are those from the Third World (just the ones who couldn't hack it over there)
 
AngryAboutInternets said:
The bottom level, the baseline rule of politics is military power. If you have no military power, you do not have a seat at the table of politics when the real business gets done. Any politician should know that, but apparently ours are even dumber than the ones they elect over in the third world.
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There are three ways.
One is millitary might, where you can defeat your enemies in battle
One is economic might, where you can buy your enemies or outproduce them
One is information might, where you control what your enemies believe is real

Canada has none of them.
 
While I am very sad for you canucks, hopefully this will be a lesson to other nations, akin to a kid burning his hand on a stove. I really hope this can serve as a deterrent. I also hope every Canadian who is not a mongoloid gets out of this situation without horrible consequences,
 
Betonhaus said:
financial might
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Irrelevant if you can't defend it, requiring military strength.
Betonhaus said:
information might
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Barring some kind of absolutely insane religion scenario where you're the holy land and a gigantic country worships you (*cough cough*), wildly impractical unless you're imposing cultural hegemony using power projection, which can only be achieved by militarily powerful nations or those nations defended and endorsed by them. See: all of history.

But yes, we have none of those.

It all boils down to military in the end. You're not a real country if you can't defend your borders, you're not worthy of respect if you're not a threat. Obviously the level of power required to engage differs depending on who you're talking to and how far you are from them, but in both of those respects we have the worst possible matchup with the USA. If we even had enough power to bloody the nose of the states there would at least be a debate, but we do not. They could literally trade lives and equipment 2:1 for our equivalents and barely feel the loss it would take to devastate us.
 
karaokeman said:
give citizenship preferences to native English and native French speakers.
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Saar all Indians who finish school are native English speakers.

And as for native French speakers 140 million Africans speak French.
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Kakkerum420 said:
I also hope every Canadian who is not a mongoloid gets out of this situation without horrible consequences,
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unlikely not when the liberal majority of the country plans to use whatever damage they can cause Trump to do for polticial gain rather than fix an already broken country about to get a whole lot more broken. could go on for the next 4 years.
 
Just did some research this afternoon and if I moved to America my salary would literally double when converted from the USD salary back to CDN.
 
I really hope they
YautjaWeeb said:
unlikely not when the liberal majority of the country plans to use whatever damage they can cause Trump to do for polticial gain rather than fix an already broken country about to get a whole lot more broken. could go on for the next 4 years.
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I really hope they can get their shit together, even Canada shouldn't suffer this much.
 
Maker's Mark said:
Just did some research this afternoon and if I moved to America my salary would literally double when converted from the USD salary back to CDN.
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Relocation is the Canadian norm but remember America isn't problem free either and you are not a citizen just a house guest with an expiry date than can also be kicked out at any time unless married.
 
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