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I am a little worried that there will be violent interference with Alberta's secession. We'll clearly have enough signatures to have a vote (which I guess will happen in September or so), but Alberta leaving would be a shock to the world. Now California could talk about leaving (constitutionally questionable) or countries could talk about leaving the EU, heck countries could talk about dividing. Those might not amount to anything, but it will likely scare the shit out of globohomo because their plans to rule over everything is threatened. Worst case scenario is we could see attacks against people in Alberta, possibly some sort of gay ops terrorist attack. Even if the vote would've normally been no, there will be attacks leading up to the day if the referendum.
 
Betonhaus said:
I am a little worried that there will be violent interference with Alberta's secession. We'll clearly have enough signatures to have a vote (which I guess will happen in September or so), but Alberta leaving would be a shock to the world. Now California could talk about leaving (constitutionally questionable) or countries could talk about leaving the EU, heck countries could talk about dividing. Those might not amount to anything, but it will likely scare the shit out of globohomo because their plans to rule over everything is threatened. Worst case scenario is we could see attacks against people in Alberta, possibly some sort of gay ops terrorist attack. Even if the vote would've normally been no, there will be attacks leading up to the day if the referendum.
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Even if the referendum votes to leave, ottowa would just cry "amerikkkan/ruzzian interference" and claim its illegitimate.
 
harbringer883 said:
Even if the referendum votes to leave, ottowa would just cry "amerikkkan/ruzzian interference" and claim its illegitimate.
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Which would mirror the Russia/Ukraine state of affairs (before the military operations happened) in a very uncomfortable way. If Alberta votes to leave and Ottowa says no, America would likely intervene to assist.
 
Betonhaus said:
Now California could talk about leaving
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It would never happen . We had a war about this already. Also, California, for all its talk about its economy, is unable to support itself. Lastly, California is so insanely gerrymandered, and has such a large land area, realistically it should be several states. There a lot of Republicans and conservatives in California. They just have no power because Democrats cheat and import a underclass at massive numbers. California is nothing like Alberta.
 
Point and Laugh said:
It would never happen . We had a war about this already. Also, California, for all its talk about its economy, is unable to support itself. Lastly, California is so insanely gerrymandered, and has such a large land area, realistically it should be several states. There a lot of Republicans and conservatives in California. They just have no power because Democrats cheat and import a underclass at massive numbers. California is nothing like Alberta.
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California will talk about leaving, but they won't do a lot aside from making a lot of noise. But yeah we could see parts of California talk about splitting off into their own states, I do believe there's a movement that's been slow burning for a long while that would kick into high gear if seperatism becomes all the rage.
 
Betonhaus said:
I am a little worried that there will be violent interference with Alberta's secession. We'll clearly have enough signatures to have a vote (which I guess will happen in September or so), but Alberta leaving would be a shock to the world. Now California could talk about leaving (constitutionally questionable) or countries could talk about leaving the EU, heck countries could talk about dividing. Those might not amount to anything, but it will likely scare the shit out of globohomo because their plans to rule over everything is threatened. Worst case scenario is we could see attacks against people in Alberta, possibly some sort of gay ops terrorist attack. Even if the vote would've normally been no, there will be attacks leading up to the day if the referendum.
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That's the kind of rhetoric that was bandied about after Kosovo, nothing came of it
 
Rapesputin said:
That's the kind of rhetoric that was bandied about after Kosovo, nothing came of it
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Most people can't even find Kosovo on a map, if they haven't heard of it at all. And it's only about 20-30 years old in its current iteration. Canada has been fully independent for 50 years, and has static borders for longer then anyone alive. We're currently in an era of peace where "the good guys" are not expected to break apart. I could be overstating out influence, but the prospect of the world's second largest country dropping to third largest country will be heavily discussed and might add fuel to the fire of any secession talks anywhere in the world.

Plus, you know, the us Democrats will be terrified of the prospect of America gaining more solidly red seats and might act out.
 
Point and Laugh said:
Also, California, for all its talk about its economy, is unable to support itself.
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Listen to this dude.

People are increasingly short-sighted in any event when they talk about secession from America, but California is especially precarious. Yes, at first glance it seems literally big enough (in area and population) and prosperous enough (in agriculture and tech alike) to secede and make a go of it on its own, but:

1) Much of its prosperity is tied to fellow Americans as customers of everything from farm produce to smartphones, and Americans would sanction and tariff its products post-independence, causing a TON of lost revenue,
2) Its water supply would suffer when the sources of said water, at least the Colorado, are cut off - needed diversions to keep people from dying of thirst would affect agriculture,
3) So many people would leave for America that'd disagree with independence in general much less the state's liberal policies and that includes much of the White population that is the tax base of the state,
4) That's outside the current demographic upheaval of spics versus Whites versus blacks versus Asians, all of whom barely tolerate one another and rely on the current prosperity to keep themselves from killing one another,
5) Even if granted independence, its leftist-leaning population would loathe military service and would not fund needed defense initiatives alongside America would absolutely not let foreign forces in to "protect" the state,
6) The standard of living would drop so fast for much of the lefties living off the agricultural slave labor and tech bros whining they don't have easy money or access to luxuries the revolts would be hard for the government to put down, what with no real military forces to do so,
7) Said tech bros would (some already are) moving their companies eastward to escape the tax policies and high COL of the state and would absolutely bolt for America once consequences started happening.

California would genuinely collapse in a year or two, tops, if it somehow got even a peaceful Calexit.
 
Mayor Cody Travers said:
California would genuinely collapse in a year or two, tops, if it somehow got even a peaceful Calexit
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I know that and you know that and I'm sure America knows that, but I'm not certain that the vocal crazy liberals and people in charge of California believe that enough to not make a bunch of noise and trigger a dispute between the fanatical leftist cities and the rest of the state.
 
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Brutality said:

What else from the Post National state, where every uprising in shitskin land results in the diasporas aping out to support old world loyalties
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If they care this much about Iran, maybe they should go back and fix their country. Same thing with the many citizens of Khalistan. Getting involved in these situations does not benefit Canadians in the slightest. Only browns go to "new homes" and bring their sectarian conflicts with them.
 
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