Disaster California Issues "Fire Tornado" Warning - Fire Tornados generally viewed as an improvement to California

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The Reno office of the National Weather Service warned Northern California of a fiery tornado Saturday afternoon that had sprung up near a large, fast-moving wildfire in the Sierra.

That’s right: A firenado.

It is the first known issuance of a tornado warning for the climate phenomenon since it burst into California’s consciousness during the deadly Carr Fire in 2018.



Wendell Hohmann, the NWS forecaster who penned the tornado warning said that it was the first time to his knowledge of a tornado warning of this nature.

“It’s probably the first time it’s been issued outside of a thunderstorm environment,” Hohmann said.

Just before 3 p.m., Hohmann, working from the Reno forecast office, observed a cloud forming in Lassen County by the 2,300-acre wildfire which started in Sierra County in the Tahoe National Forest. He and his colleagues knew it was capable of forming into a tornado and spreading fire around the area.


Winds hit 60 mph in the area, whipping up the cloud, posing “an extremely dangerous situation for firefighters,” according to the warning.

“The Loyalton Fire to the east of the Sierra Valley exploded most impressively this afternoon, with a very large pyrocumulus and reports of fire tornadoes,” the warning said. “Due to the possibility of very strong fire-generated winds and extreme fire behavior with danger to fire personnel, a tornado warning was issued to heighten awareness in the area of the fire”

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Dan Satterfield, a meteorologist who blogs about wild weather for the American Geophysical Union, wrote on Saturday: “Fire tornadoes happen, but the issuance of a tornado warning on one is a first.”

Hohmann and other forecasters decided that, though unconventional, the tornado warning was the most effective form of messaging to warn people in the vicinity of the bizarre phenomenon.

Forecasters warned area residents to stay out of the fire zone. By 3:30 p.m., the Reno NWS office said on social media that the fire cloud had weakened and the threat of a tornado forming was diminished. The tornado warning was allowed to expire, though forecasters warned that “extreme fire behavior will continue into this evening.”

Later on Saturday, social media began to light up with video of a tornado near Halleujah Junction, several miles east. One observer, Barry Winston, posted video of the tornado in a time-lapse, showing it “exploding in size.”

The Loyalton Fire, which is mainly burning in Sierra County, has charred more than 20,000 acres since sparking on Friday near Mount Ina Coolbrith, which is east of Loyalton. Officials in the Tahoe National Forest, where the fire is burning, said the blaze is mainly consuming grass, sage and juniper and was 5% contained Saturday afternoon.

“Fire behavior is extreme, and a smoke column will be visible throughout the Sierra Valley and North Reno,” fire officials wrote around 4 p.m.

Mandatory evacuations are in place for several residents living near Highway 70, which is closed from Highway 49 to Highway 395. Highway 395 is closed from Hallelujah Junction to Border Town, federal officials said.

Loyalton Fire in Sierra County
Source: National Interagency Fire CenterWhat’s a fire tornado?
Before the Carr Fire, there had been only one documented case of a so-called “firenado” in the Canberra Firestorm of 2003 in Australia making this an extremely rare event, according to Neil Lareau, a scientist and professor at University of Nevada, Reno.

The event in 2018 in Shasta County was the second such event, scientists said at the time.

Lareau, who spoke to The Sacramento Bee in 2018, and two co-authors released a study documenting the fire tornado and the factors which contributed to its formation.

The tornado formed its spin because of a pre-existing wind condition called a shear, and because of clouds formed on top of the fire plume, Lareau said.

A fire-fueled thunderstorm cloud can form on top of the fire’s smoke plume, allowing the plume to grow vertically very quickly, he said.

When the plumes grow, a wind condition called shear happens near the ground. Shear is a wind pattern in which wind is blowing in two opposite directions very close to each other – Lareau compared it to a busy freeway with a center divider.

The wind blowing in opposite directions is what formed the tornado’s spin, Lareau said. He said it’s similar to how a paddle wheel, placed in the center divider of the busy freeway, would begin to spin rapidly.

Lareau said that much of the radar and satellite technology used in monitoring the event could have potential applications in a warning system.

“It’s not a panacea,” Lareau said in 2018. “There are a number of things to be done to mitigate fire damage in California. But minutes matter.”
 
Fire whirls are really cool, but they're not true tornadoes. They're formed by heat rising and surface drafts rather than mesocyclones.

Here's a couple very small ones at Burning Man. They're pretty well documented, I'm not sure why the articles says it was first documented in 2003.

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EDIT: Oh shit, the whirl connected with a pyrocumulus cloud. That does make it a pseudo-tornado.
Fire tornado's are actually a separate thing from fire whirls, you've never heard of them probably because they're extremely rare. Specifically I think it's been recorded three times, in California there's this new one obviously, but there was also one a year or two back, I think during the Carr fire. The very first one ever recorded was in Australia back in 2003 during major bushfires in Canberra.
 
Fire tornado's are actually a separate thing from fire whirls, you've never heard of them probably because they're extremely rare. Specifically I think it's been recorded three times, in California there's this new one obviously, but there was also one a year or two back, I think during the Carr fire. The very first one ever recorded was in Australia back in 2003 during major bushfires in Canberra.
As far as I'm aware fire whirls and fire tornadoes are the exact same thing. They're caused by wind shears and heat rising. A "fire tornado" is when a fire whirl connects with a pyrocumulus cloud, which apparently is pretty rare.
 
As far as I'm aware fire whirls and fire tornadoes are the exact same thing. They're caused by wind shears and heat rising. A "fire tornado" is when a fire whirl connects with a pyrocumulus cloud, which apparently is pretty rare.
This is like a landspout or waterspout but is caused by winds associated with a pyrocumulonimbus cloud and severe examples of those are usually classified as tornadoes.
 
God hates Australia California, land of the sodomite damned. The fag infested land of California is burning, the fire of God's wrath is sending hundreds of those filthy commiefornian beasts straight to hell.

We at the Kiwi Farms are rejoicing and we are praying for the dear lord to burn many more commiefornians alive.
 
God is just warning California this time. Next time it's right over Downtown San Francisco and not in a place where no one lives.
It also helps that the majority of California's trees literally secrete lantern oil.
Which ones? The native ones or the imported Australian eucalyptus trees people thought were pretty that are invasive and literally explode and people plant next to their houses?
 
They brought it on themselves. Oops, I mean (((themselves.))) Get back to me when the curse in the Bible shows up where people's bodies fall apart so quickly their tongues rot or decompose in their mouths before their bodies hit the floor. Initially this was thought the only way for this scripture to occur is through a nuke, but ya never know.
 















Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

That said, have they tried throwing Democratic Senator Wiener into the firenado yet? It might appease a wrateful God.

And if it doesn't - we can always fire bomb Hollywood.
 
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