By Any Means Necessary (BAMN) - ANTIFA Cult Leaders, NAMBLA supporters; Shanta Driver, Leland Sanderson, and Yvette Felarca

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And the odd thing is that as much as both the SJW Left and the Alt-Right like to raise a fuss about illegal immigration, illegal immigration to the United States (and immigration in general) has been on the decline since the 2008 recession. Hell, for a while in the late 2000's and early 2010's, you heard stories of illegal immigrants returning to Mexico and Central America because of how bad the American economy was doing at the time.

So, I don't see why either side is making such a big deal out of an issue that is declining in its severity.

But to stay on topic, BAMN is scary even by Antifa standards.
 
Lorento said:
I'd just like to add that Obama deported loads of Latinos. There is no new 'Purge' of minorities in America.

Edit: From the BBC website.

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Immigration is just a reverse potemkin village for "I'm uber left and hate rights" is all. You didnt see radical hipsters working on campaigns or movements against rape/misogyny when Clinton was in office or immigration when Obama was blasting Latino niggas into the desert.
 
CharlesBarkley said:
Immigration is just a reverse potemkin village for "I'm uber left and hate rights" is all. You didnt see radical hipsters working on campaigns or movements against rape/misogyny when Clinton was in office or immigration when Obama was blasting Latino niggas into the desert.
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This guy gets it
 
Lorento said:
I'd just like to add that Obama deported loads of Latinos. There is no new 'Purge' of minorities in America.

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I'd mostly put that down to strong rhetoric putting people off making the crossing. It's a government's duty to secure its borders, so I don't know why this would be a surprise if you aren't one of these people.
 
Lorento said:
I'd just like to add that Obama deported loads of Latinos. There is no new 'Purge' of minorities in America.
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I just wanted to point out that when people bring up deportation statistics from years past (no matter if its somebody defending Obama or somebody making fun of people who are freaking out over the arrests going on right now), they are failing to realize that the vast majority of those run of the mill deportations are people that were captured by the border patrol just after they crossed and before they could get to where they were going and establish themselves.

When South Americans are captured they are detained until they can be sent back to their home country. When Mexicans are captured on the border they are typically sent back to Mexico in just a few days and most who try it once will try it over and over again until they make it. Its not uncommon for a single person to be deported several times in as little as a year, so those pre-Trump deportation numbers are a little deceptive.

Considering the fact that border crossings have plummeted since Trumps been in office, if that infographic is accurate it implies that the border patrol has had more success under Trump if you take into account the lower number.

And since he's empowered ICE to conduct raids well within the countries interior, its likely the status of people being deported has changed significantly. Ironically, the total number of deportations will probably go down under Trump.
 
Absolutego said:
Some of them maybe, but most are literally unable to process politics on anything but a surface level and the entirety of their love for immigrants is due to said immigrant group's melanin levels and because conservatives were the ones who made a stink about it first.

I bet if we had an immigrant crisis consisting of Albertans fleeing the oppressive Canadian government the position of 95% of these people would completely flip.
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Alternatively, they support it and pretend they're deformed genderqueer "brown" people
 
Sargon of Akkad did a great video showing why these people need to be thrown from a helicopter

I highly recommend at least watching the part at 42:40 as its a testimony from an ex member who described why these people are like a cult and tried to hold him against his will when he tried to leave
 
That graph is extra good because it's slightly inaccurate, attributing January's deportations to Trump even though those would (mostly) be under Obama
 
Pointless Pedant said:
Genuine question: do these people want to abolish the concepts of borders and nationalities completely? They seem to be implying that illegal immigrants should have the same legal rights as US citizens.
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Yes, leftists and crazier liberals want open borders for America and Europe but not other countries. They think it's our responsibility to take care of poor brown folk and that we should let anyone and everyone in.

They don't understand the concept of limited resources when they don't pay a dime in taxes or have to deal with the reprecussions of importing immigrants that don't integrate.
 
Sissy Galvez said:
Yes, leftists and crazier liberals want open borders for America and Europe but not other countries. They think it's our responsibility to take care of poor brown folk and that we should let anyone and everyone in.

They don't understand the concept of limited resources when they don't pay a dime in taxes or have to deal with the reprecussions of importing immigrants that don't integrate.
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Because if the other countries open their borders they'll have to let the icky white people in.
 

There have been a shitton of livestreams for today's protests and counterprotests about Ann Coulter's talk getting shut down because of "Security concerns" from ANTIFA/BAMN.
 
Syaoran Li said:
And the odd thing is that as much as both the SJW Left and the Alt-Right like to raise a fuss about illegal immigration, illegal immigration to the United States (and immigration in general) has been on the decline since the 2008 recession. Hell, for a while in the late 2000's and early 2010's, you heard stories of illegal immigrants returning to Mexico and Central America because of how bad the American economy was doing at the time.

So, I don't see why either side is making such a big deal out of an issue that is declining in its severity.
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For most people on the right, it's about principles and the rule of law. The federal government has been intentionally lax in enforcing immigration laws for a long time. The Democrats call everyone in favor of border control (in a country with an easily exploitable welfare system... that's what the term "anchor baby" really refers to) a "racist." The Republicans have refused to do anything out of fear they will seem to confirm the Democrat narrative, regardless of what their constituents say they want and regardless of the fact most minorities would never vote for them. People are just frustrated to see illegal immigrants benefiting from systems they're paying less into because they're here illegally. (And I'm sure there are a small number of actual, hardcore racists on the right, too.)

For people on the left, I honestly think it's mostly emoting, white guilt, and virtue signaling. A lot of them are serious in their humanitarian concerns, but in my opinion they're myopic and misguided.

I'm mostly a small-"l" libertarian, so both sides can call me :autism:.
 
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Uncanny Valley said:
Because if the other countries open their borders they'll have to let the icky white people in.
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Yes that's part of it, they want forced integration so white people arent a majority.

They're totally ok with brown people in countries that stone women for evading forced marriages at 12 or throw gays off buildings.
 
Pointless Pedant said:
I'd mostly put that down to strong rhetoric putting people off making the crossing. It's a government's duty to secure its borders, so I don't know why this would be a surprise if you aren't one of these people.
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I think it also has something to do with Trump's ham-handed failure to do anything according to established procedures, resulting in extreme inefficiency in accomplishing any of his stated goals. Even without being overtly anti-immigration, Obama was successful at prioritizing and removing undesirables from the country, something he didn't get any credit for.

Now, not only has Trump's deprioritization of high risk immigrants (like actual criminals) resulted in a backup on immigration dockets, but has actually caused a flood of adverse court rulings that make it even more difficult for immigration authorities to turn busts into actual deportations. I bet that Nina bitch at TLL gets to stay for years.

frozenrunner said:
For most people on the right, it's about principles and the rule of law. The federal government has been intentionally lax in enforcing immigration laws for a long time.
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Not true. In fact, Obama deported more illegals than Bush did before him.
 
AnOminous said:
Not true. In fact, Obama deported more illegals than Bush did before him.
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I actually wonder how intense the BAMN protests back then were though, if they were as bloodthirsty and terroristic as ever or if this has just been increasing.
 
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