UN Brussels Faces Biggest Challenge Since Brexit - Poland gives no fucks

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...u-favor-but-damage-already-done-idUSKCN1G310X

BIALOWIEZA, Poland (Reuters) - When Poland sought to ease tensions with the European Union by declaring a halt to logging in the ancient Bialowieza forest, it did not announce how many trees it had already cut down.

In fact, logging quotas to 2021 had already been reached and in one part of the forest an expanded quota, declared illegal by the European Commission, had been more than half fulfilled despite an injunction, official forestry data shows.

State Forests, the state-run body in charge of harvesting timber and protecting woodland, also confirmed that the forest’s two remaining administrative units were aiming to increase the quota of wood that they can harvest by 2021.

The woodland, a UNESCO World Heritage site that is home to the largest roaming population of European bison and some of the continent’s oldest trees, is emblematic of the rift between the EU executive and the nationalist party ruling Poland since 2015.

At the beginning of this year, a reshuffled Law and Justice government in Warsaw said it had complied with an order from the European Court of Justice, first issued in July, to stop logging in Bialowieza, setting a new tone it wants Brussels to match.

Environmentalists said the announcement came too late to prevent irreparable damage, albeit to a limited area.

The standoff over the forest is one of several flashpoints between Warsaw and Brussels that include pan-European migration quotas and judicial reform plans.

At stake is not only the unique biodiversity of the woodland but also, some lawyers and environmentalists say, the future of European institutions and the rule of law.

The European Court of Justice ordered a halt to logging in July last year while it looked into the Commission’s case that the sharp increase in the logging target for the southeastern Bialowieza Forest section broke European environment law.

Warsaw refused to comply and four months later, the court threatened to fine Poland $100,000 for each day it felled trees for sale.

It was the first time an EU state had publicly said it would ignore an order of the court, said Laurent Pech, professor of European Law at Middlesex University London, calling it “a direct threat to the very functioning of the EU legal order”.

The cessation of logging was ”a cosmetic concession, Pech said. “The EU... cannot simply let the Polish government get away with this, as this behavior if unsanctioned would render the EU legal system totally ineffective.”

So, is Poland well within its rights as a nation to log its own forests?

Or is the forest a world heritage site that should remain untouched for future generations of the world?

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Poland should tell these miserable fat Belgian bastards to stay in their own lane.
 
It's a pretty pathetic system if all it takes for it to fall apart is for one member-state to just ignore it.
 
Maybe the EU will take notes from the UN and write Poland a scathing letter. That will show them!
 
Maybe the EU will take notes from the UN and write Poland a scathing letter. That will show them!

That's been an incredibly effective tactic against Israel. I mean other than when it hasn't been. Which is every time.
 
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So now the ECJ is learning what the ICC already has: nobody cares.
 
The EU has asked Poland nicely to stop what it's doing. If Poland continues, the EU will have no choice but to ask them nicely again.
 
Poland should be in their right, unless they had received gibs from the EU to not cut down trees.

Preserving forests is always a tricky business. First world countries with many sources of income can easily say that preserving a forest is for the greater good and will be worth it down the road. But if you're a poor second or third world country that needs jobs and a boost to the GDP, logging is one of the easiest methods. Even if countries are paid to preserve their forests, things like corruption, black markets and greed will always be present to shake things up.
 
On a broader scale, this is why the left-leaners love to equate any and all national pride as jingoism/nazism, and love their "citizen of the world" and "reject nobody" policies, if national sovereignty and identity still exist, people won't just do what they say! (For the good of everyone of course, but mostly us) And worse, they can't force you to not just hang up the phone on them. Considering the EU has been around long enough at this point that people older than mere children cannot remember a time it did not exist, I wonder just how many of it's policy makers subscribe to this notion and really cannot fathom what it means when a nation, a sovereign nation, says "get bent" and treat it like some odd programming bug in the software, i.e. "Why does it keep doing that? We gave it our instructions!" They seem to get their influence stops at certain borders, but can't really grasp WHY, which is the reason they so cavalierly ignore them in the first place.
 
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Well, since Poland is one of the only EU member states with an actual functioning army, there's really nothing they can do but finger wag. Poland has been saying 'Fuck you' to Belgium ever since the refugee thing. They don't want to take on Germany's own self inflicted wound, and they shouldn't have to. So no shit they aren't going to concede to anything.
 
The woodland, a UNESCO World Heritage site that is home to the largest roaming population of European bison
Buffalo? Really? Who literally fucking cares.

They're fucking cows with tougher meat. Fuck it, either farm them and keep them alive that way, or put them in zoos and forget about it or.., y'know, honestly? Fuck it, just let them die.

Is missing one little off-breed cow thing going to destroy the world's ecology? Is that what this is really about?
 
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