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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I go back and forth on John Cleese. hes kinda a boomer twat, but he also seems to be too old to give a fuck about shit anymore. will be an interesting documentary, just to see him doing stuff
 
CWCissey said:
Nah it's broken for me too.

And just a reminder that Imgur are scum that don't allow redirects from this site.
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Yea I know, I've just uploaded it on the first image hosting site I could think of!

Reuploaded the image on the post, it might work again.

Either way, Jersh pls fix your shit.
 
Image is working for me. I love that post because it sums up every boomer who laments that you can't make fun of anyone anymore. Any time one of them says, "Those were the days, when no-one got offended," the correct response is, "Then why did you shit and do nothing?"
 
Inquisitor_BadAss said:
Nuclear is the only decent option we have right now imo.
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The U.S. has enormous coal reserves. If we can figure out a more efficient way of extracting usable, high quality fuel from it we're fine, at least for the middle term, obviously not using it exclusively but just to stabilize the prices of other fuels. We should mitigate the carbon to some extent, but most of the currently suggested methods like cap-and-trade or similar things like carbon credits are shitty and unworkable.

Ironically coal-fired power plants release more radioactivity than nuclear power.
 
AnOminous said:
The U.S. has enormous coal reserves. If we can figure out a more efficient way of extracting usable, high quality fuel from it we're fine, at least for the middle term, obviously not using it exclusively but just to stabilize the prices of other fuels. We should mitigate the carbon to some extent, but most of the currently suggested methods like cap-and-trade or similar things like carbon credits are shitty and unworkable.

Ironically coal-fired power plants release more radioactivity than nuclear power.
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We were already doing that. Shame the new owners are switching to hydrogen gas instead of the more sensible SNG.
The company ships generated byproduct carbon dioxide via a high pressure pipeline to an oilfield in Saskatchewan in Canada where it is used for enhanced oil recovery from the Weyburn oil field near Weyburn, Saskatchewan (Canada).

The plant also produces ammonium sulfate, anhydrous ammonia, phenol, cresylic acid, methanol, and urea naphtha. These materials are by-products of coal gasification. The plant also produces liquid nitrogen, krypton and xenon as a by-product of liquid oxygen production. Oxygen is utilized in the initial oxidation of coal.
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Hell of a lot of useful byproducts from it, too. Coal liquefaction could also be improved upon to create superior gains with less pollution.
 
Government have U turned on vaccine passports in England but Sajid David said it’s something they should keep in reserve. So think of it more like a temporary suspension to the idea.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Vaccine passport plan for nightclubs and large events scrapped in England, announces Sajid Javid

In a U-turn on Sunday, following a backlash from Tory MPs, the Health Secretary said the idea had been scrapped
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Vaccine passport plan for nightclubs and large events scrapped in England, announces Sajid Javid​

In a U-turn on Sunday, following a backlash from Tory MPs, the Health Secretary said the idea had been scrapped

ByTelegraph Reporters12 September 2021 • 12:13pm
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Sajid Javid has said the Government "will not be going ahead" with plans for vaccine passports in order to gain access to nightclubs and other crowded events.
Plans had been announced that members of the public would be required to show proof they have had two doses of a Covid-19 vaccine in order to gain entry to clubs and other large-scale events in England.
But in a U-turn on Sunday, following a backlash from Tory MPs, the Health Secretary said the idea had been scrapped.
He told the BBC's The Andrew Marr Show: "I've never liked the idea of saying to people you must show your papers or something to do what is just an everyday activity, but we were right to properly look at it.
"We've looked at it properly and whilst we should keep it in reserve as a potential option, I'm pleased to say that we will not be going ahead with plans for vaccine passports."
Health Secretary Sajid Javid leaves BBC studios

Health Secretary Sajid Javid leaves BBC studios CREDIT: Hollie Adams /Getty
The announcement came shortly after the minister had appeared on Sky News and told host Trevor Phillips a final decision had yet to be made.
Asked about the policy, Mr Javid had said: "We have been looking at that. We've been open about that. Instinctively I don't like the idea at all of people having to, let's say, present papers to do basic things.
"So if we do that, it has to be something that is looked at very carefully and something that we believe that has to be done with no alternative.
"With the vaccination rates rising - for example with 16 and 17-year-olds we only started just last month, now over 50% of 16 and 17-year-olds are already vaccinated - I think we need to take that into account and make a final decision, but I hope we can avoid it."
He added: "I am not here today to rule that out. We haven't made a final decision as a Government."
Vaccine passports had caused growing disquiet among Tory ranks, as well as facing opposition from opposition parties and industry figures.
Vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi faced a fierce backlash when he defended the policy in the Commons on Wednesday, with Tory MPs accusing the Government of picking an "unnecessary fight" with them.
He said: "It is not something... we do lightly, it is something to allow us to transition this virus from pandemic to endemic status."
Health Secretary Sajid Javid talks as he appears as a guest on the Andrew Marr Show

Health Secretary Sajid Javid talks as he appears as a guest on the Andrew Marr Show CREDIT: REUTERS
The decision means Covid measures in England again deviate from those in Scotland, where a motion on their introduction was passed in the Scottish Parliament on Thursday, while a decision is expected in Wales next week.
Stormont ministers have yet to reach an official position on using vaccine access passports within Northern Ireland.
Mr Javid also said he wanted to remove the need for PCR tests for travel "as soon as I possibly can".
But asked whether ministers were removing too many measures designed to keep the public safe, he said the Government should not be introducing coronavirus measures "just for the sake of it".
He told The Andrew Marr Show: "There's a lot of defences, we've just gone through some of them, that we need to keep in place, because this virus hasn't gone anywhere.
"There's still a pandemic so of course we need to remain cautious.
"But we just shouldn't be doing things for the sake of it or because others are doing, and we should look at every possible intervention properly."
On vaccine passports specifically, he added: "We've been looking at the evidence, which I think anyone would expect us to do, but you've got to look at it alongside the whole toolbox, what else we are doing, and as I say the vaccine programme, our testing programme, our surveillance programme, the new treatments that the NHS has been purchasing and offering for the first time, this is all our wall of defence."
Mr Javid also said he will not "push" chief medical officers for their advice on vaccinating 12 to 15-year-olds, but added he has asked for schools to start preparing.
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Apologies for double post but this was probably the fastest U turn on a U turn that’s happened in a while
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I don’t know what the fucks going on anymore.
 
He's got his hand to his earpiece going "Can you speak louder? I can't bloody hear you!"
 
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Apologies for double post but this was probably the fastest U turn on a U turn that’s happened in a while
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Now the dust has settled a little bit it looks like this isn't now being implemented.

I'm quite pleased. Despite having absolutely no interest in clubbing, I felt domestic covid passports we're wrong in principle. Actually wrote to my MP about it (yes, I have become a crank in my middle age).

I think they're still doing it in Scotland but who cares.
 
Clem Fandango said:
I'm quite pleased. Despite having absolutely no interest in clubbing, I felt domestic covid passports we're wrong in principle. Actually wrote to my MP about it (yes, I have become a crank in my middle age).
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I checked up on domestic passports to see what the point of them is, i.e. a worse case scenario.

It's always to restrict internal migration so Moscow/Beijing/etc can stay rich and peasants can't get a job in richer areas.

And yet it's mostly left wing pro-immigration types promoting vaccine passports...
 
I hunted down the article with maximum seethe over this one.

www.express.co.uk

'Smacks of revenge for AstraZeneca!' French fury as UK ends Covid vaccine contract

FRENCH people were left infuriated by the UK's decision to pull out of a contract with vaccine producer Valneva, claiming it is retaliation for the EU-AstraZeneca row.
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'Smacks of revenge for AstraZeneca!' French fury as UK ends Covid vaccine contract​

FRENCH people were left infuriated by the UK's decision to pull out of a contract with vaccine producer Valneva, claiming it is retaliation for the EU-AstraZeneca row.​




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The UK Government has terminated an agreement with French pharmaceutical company Valneva for its COVID-19 vaccination, the company said. Some 100 million doses of the vaccine were put on order after the UK increased its request by 40 million in February. The move was lambasted in France with Le Figaro readers claiming Boris Johnson's Government is acting in revenge for the EU's decision to end its contract with AstraZeneca.

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One person said: "It smacks of revenge following AstraZeneca's problems..."


And another noted: "With the British, what else to expect?
"Valneva is in breach of its obligations regarding a vaccine that is only under development. All this, not to say frankly: 'we changed our minds'.

"The French state is failing in its obligations concerning migrants, even though we are even going to look for them at sea to bring them back to us.

Valneva vaccine: UK ended contract in retaliation for AstraZeneca, claim French (Image: GETTY)
"Europe refuses to re-renegotiate a post-Brexit agreement, and Boris Johnson's whims are not satisfied.
"Always equal to themselves, the English."
"Another proof of UK deceit," someone else added.
Another reader echoed: "Poor Englishmen. Bitter to the rind.
"The EU has terminated its AstraZeneca contract (for good reason, by the way), so we are doing the same to you.
Not only is it totally childish, but it just reflects the level of dismay in the UK. The boat sinks."


They said: "Illustration of the Anglo-European conflict which may have resulted from Brexit."
But some also came to the defence of the UK government.
One person argued: "Given the level of vaccination in the UK, the British no longer need this vaccine that's all.
"They had ordered in early 2020 from everyone since we did not know who would get to provide a vaccine first."

Valneva vaccine: UK ended its contract with the French company (Image: GETTY)
The decision also ignited calls for French President Emmanuel Macron to purchase vaccine doses outside the EU procurement scheme and take advantage of the vials left by the UK.
Frexit Generation leader Charles-Henri Gallois said: "France should take this opportunity and pre-order doses of the French vaccine from #Valneva outside the EU purchasing programme!
"We know how to speak of sovereignty for communication.
"It would now be a question of showing it for once by deeds!"
The UK Government served notice over allegations of a breach of the agreement, but the firm, which is manufacturing the jab at its site in Livingston, West Lothian, in Scotland, said it "strenuously" denies the allegations.
In a statement, Valneva said: "Valneva SE, a specialty vaccine company, today announced that it has received a termination notice from the UK Government (HMG) in relation to the Supply Agreement for its COVID-19 vaccine candidate, VLA2001.

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"The contract provides HMG with the right to terminate. HMG has alleged that the company is in breach of its obligations under the supply agreement, but the company strenuously denies this."
The vaccine candidate is currently in Phase 3 trials, the firm said, with results due in the fourth quarter.

"Subject to these data and MHRA (Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency) approval, Valneva believes that initial approval for VLA2001 could be granted in late 2021", the company added.
It added: "Valneva has worked tirelessly, and to its best efforts, on the collaboration with HMG including investing significant resources and effort to respond to HMG's requests for variant-derived vaccines.
"Valneva continues to be committed to the development of VLA2001 and will increase its efforts with other potential customers to ensure that its inactivated vaccine can be used in the fight against the pandemic."
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