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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I was up at the Tyburn end of Oxford Street in London, a few weeks ago. I didn't know about the mound, but I did happen to glance in the direction of Marble Arch where it is located. I wasn't wearing my glasses and so I assumed that I was looking at the scaffolding around a construction project that had been draped in green netting to keep the pigeons off.

Laying aside the myriad issues with the mound itself, the conflict between the intention of the project and its location would have convinced anyone with even a bare bones knowledge of London urban topography that it was a bad idea, doomed to failure. This is also the reason why I regard it, in part, as a scam.

The goal of the mound - to attract people back to one of London's shopping hubs, on and around Oxford Street - is fundamentally flawed. The area around Marble Arch is separated from the western end of Oxford Street by busy roads, that are best negotiated on foot by resorting to an insalubrious network of subways that stink of piss and disinfectant. Furthermore, to reach the mound by underground, one would have to travel to Marble Arch Tube, which emerges onto Oxford Street where all the shops are. You are already there. The mound has literally no association to the area it is intended to promote. It shares more of a connection with Hyde Park.

The councillors would have been better off, in my opinion, recreating one of two long-absent metropolitan landmarks: A popular choice would be The Skylon - an immense insectoid tripod structure that was built on the South Bank, near to Hungerford Bridge, for the 1951 Festival of Britain. It was taken down the following year but is still romanticised in music and literature. There have been multiple attempts to recreate it elsewhere in the city. It would probably cost around £1million to reconstruct; much cheaper than the mound.

A more controversial alternative would be the infamous triangular Tyburn Gallows, within spitting distance of its original site.
I think the Skylon is probably my favourite erection ever. Festival of Britain really was the best kind of the future now -grande folie.
 
fields the unparalleled Rafale, which we should have bought instead of the Eurofighter
Why the fuck would we have bought the Rafale? At the time we neither needed nor wanted a replacement carrier fighter, which is why the French pulled out of the consortium and built the Rafale in the first place. Not to mention there are serious questions about whether it could have even operated from our carriers at the time (yes Rafale say it could operate from a ski jump, but who the fuck believes what a defence contractor says these days?)
We should also have bought a raft of fat hornets instead of F35 and dumped the ramp launch on the Elizabeth class.
While the Elizabeth does have some inherent design flaws in general, she was also a victim of typical budget constraints that made it worse. She was slated to have EMALS, but then it was cut, then they planned to add it back in, and then cut it for budget reasons again (not surprising since even the Gerald Ford had major issues with hers). It genuinely annoys me that we have either the 4th or 5th highest defence spending in the world and yet every single aspect of our military is still somehow underfunded and lacking what it actually needs. It's like we have all the downfalls of America's defence industry without even a hint of it's few upsides.

I will 100% though that a proper conventional CATOBAR carrier with Super Hornets would have been an infinitely better choice than what we got lumped with in the end (would also have had the major bonus of interoperability with the Yanks).
 
She was slated to have EMALS, but then it was cut, then they planned to add it back in, and then cut it for budget reasons again (not surprising since even the Gerald Ford had major issues with hers).
No it was in the specification that she was supposed to be 'fitted for but now with' EMALS, it was in the contract and BAE got paid for it. Then in 2010 Cameron decided that the F35C's were too expensive and wanted to switch to the conventional B model. This would have also fixed the problem with the AWACS planes. It would also have allowed the carriers to use a wider range of aircraft in the future.

BAE however then came back and said, yes we know the provision for EMALS was in the contract and we took the money to do it, but we just didn't botherr. At the time most of the retards in the MOD and Navy didn't notice, and the ones that did wanted to get consultancy gigs with BAE when they retired so kept quite.

That BAE was heavily invested in the C model being purchased, didn't seem to come up.
 
No it was in the specification that she was supposed to be 'fitted for but now with' EMALS, it was in the contract and BAE got paid for it. Then in 2010 Cameron decided that the F35C's were too expensive and wanted to switch to the conventional B model. This would have also fixed the problem with the AWACS planes. It would also have allowed the carriers to use a wider range of aircraft in the future.

BAE however then came back and said, yes we know the provision for EMALS was in the contract and we took the money to do it, but we just didn't botherr. At the time most of the retards in the MOD and Navy didn't notice, and the ones that did wanted to get consultancy gigs with BAE when they retired so kept quite.

That BAE was heavily invested in the C model being purchased, didn't seem to come up.
BAE is a fucking blight on the UK. Didn't they wind up with a near-total monopoly on just about everything from ships to planes to ordnance?
 
BAE is a fucking blight on the UK. Didn't they wind up with a near-total monopoly on just about everything from ships to planes to ordnance?
That was Tony Benn's fault.. In the 1970's when he was minister of techonology he nationalised dozens of defense companies, and then forced them to merge, to make a 'national champion'.

It was a bueracratic mess, that kept production going in key constituencies, making overpriced junk. Then BAE was privatised, and began to rape the taxpayer on a regular basis.
 
Greater Manchester has a new Chief Constable. He seems pretty based, but as we all know, he can talk the talk, but will he walk the walk?

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Frankly if he just gives us one Extinction Rebellion protest handled in a way that sees posh twats in handcuffs screaming "you can't do this to me!" I'll be happy. If Burnham supports him throughout that would be the icing on the cake mostly because Labour may explode.
 

All the latest info on the plymouth shooter. He was an incel yank who shot his family, family friends, then some randomers and turned the gun on himself.

He was using a shot-gun, legally registered. Obviously our checks for handing out legal weapons has failed, i mean who in their fucking mind would allow a yank to have a gun? It's only going to end like this.
The UK shouldn't be afraid of guns, it should be afraid of its own two-digit IQ law enforcement who gives guns back to dangerous people while keeping them away from the public anyway just like this. Seriously, they can't even pick a good time to pave roads. I wouldn't put it past them to do shit like wrongly record someone having a pistol when they really have an automatic.
 
The UK shouldn't be afraid of guns, it should be afraid of its own two-digit IQ law enforcement who gives guns back to dangerous people while keeping them away from the public anyway just like this. Seriously, they can't even pick a good time to pave roads. I wouldn't put it past them to do shit like wrongly record someone having a pistol when they really have an automatic.
Oh, Reginald! I disagree.

Do you really want the people on Jeremy Kyle, to be armed? Their kids' most probable cause of death is to be eaten by dogs, and you want to throw guns in to the mix?

No deal.
 
Oh, Reginald! I disagree.

Do you really want the people on Jeremy Kyle, to be armed? Their kids' most probable cause of death is to be eaten by dogs, and you want to throw guns in to the mix?

No deal.
I'm not being that serious, I just wanted another excuse to insult our piss poor bureaucracy to be honest. Also maybe teaching the locals (including the women) how to defend themselves would repel those rape gangs and make them second-guess before throwing acid in people's faces, but that's a pipe dream.
 
Oh, Reginald! I disagree.

Do you really want the people on Jeremy Kyle, to be armed? Their kids' most probable cause of death is to be eaten by dogs, and you want to throw guns in to the mix?

No deal.
Yeah, I want the people on Jeremy Kyle to be armed. Tons of future liveleak (rip) gold!
Also, the people on Jeremy Kyle USA (IE: Black Jeremy Kyle) are all armed so it doesn't seem to make a difference.
 
I'm not being that serious, I just wanted another excuse to insult our piss poor bureaucracy to be honest. Also maybe teaching the locals (including the women) how to defend themselves would repel those rape gangs and make them second-guess before throwing acid in people's faces, but that's a pipe dream.
My reply wasn't meant to come across as serious, our bureaucracy is daft. To be honest, I thought you could only get a gun if you owned a farm. I would think about getting a hunting rifle, but we have no real wilderness.

I don't know how much of a deterrent violence is, when used against the violent. It just seems to ramp them up a notch. I do wonder how many would be dead in the streets if you legalised guns or made them easier to access.
 
My reply wasn't meant to come across as serious, our bureaucracy is daft. To be honest, I thought you could only get a gun if you owned a farm. I would think about getting a hunting rifle, but we have no real wilderness.

I don't know how much of a deterrent violence is, when used against the violent. It just seems to ramp them up a notch. I do wonder how many would be dead in the streets if you legalised guns or made them easier to access.
Too bad we don't have a thoughtful rating here. Might be interesting if we put the Jeremy Kyle guests and the kebab molesters in the same ward of a small village (or a city if that's more interesting), give them both guns. They get to live in nice accomodation for a year rent free, winners get to stay, losers get shipped back where they came from. Televise it.
 
Too bad we don't have a thoughtful rating here. Might be interesting if we put the Jeremy Kyle guests and the kebab molesters in the same ward of a small village (or a city if that's more interesting), give them both guns. They get to live in nice accomodation for a year rent free, winners get to stay, losers get shipped back where they came from. Televise it.
I can get behind that, make the small village on one of the scottish islands for extra kicks. All corpses are minced up and given to animal rescue shelters in the form of Dog food.
 
Oh, Reginald! I disagree.

Do you really want the people on Jeremy Kyle, to be armed? Their kids' most probable cause of death is to be eaten by dogs, and you want to throw guns in to the mix?

No deal.
and that's why you bongs will always be inferior to glorious Columbia. We arm our room temp IQ retards, black, white, brown, or yellow, because that what Jeebus and George Washington would have wanted.
 
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