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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Racist Trash]

Plymouth?

Probably a sailor gone nutso.

You thinking of Portsmouth?

 

[TERF respecter]

The guys alleged facebook has a Libertarian Party profile filter from a few years ago, a Trump quote and he follows Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Sheriff David Clarke and Joe Rogan. I'll be shocked if the British media doesn't take the political radicalization angle on this.

 

[Brahma]

Sounds almost like a family murder suicide. One child, at least one senior citizen?

 

[CWCissey]

You thinking of Portsmouth?

Yes I am. I'm an idiot

 

[teriyakiburns]

Marble Arch Mound: Deputy leader resigns amid spiralling costs

Westminster Council's Melvyn Caplan steps down after total costs nearly doubled to £6m.

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The deputy leader of a London council responsible for the ballooning costs of the Marble Arch Mound has resigned.
Melvyn Caplan stepped down immediately after total costs nearly doubled to £6m, up from a forecast of £3.3m.
Ticketholders were offered refunds for the artificial viewing platform which temporarily closed within two days of opening on 26 July.
A review to "understand what went wrong and ensure it never happens again" is under way, Westminster Council said.

media captionVisitors react to London's newest tourist attraction
Organisers had hoped the mound would attract 200,000 ticket holders with "millions expected to pass through the area to take a glimpse of the attraction" before it is taken down in January 2022.
Tickets for the attraction were priced at between £4.50 and £8 but it has since been made free to visit for the month of August after its plants and grass began to die.
"It's a bit weird you have to pay to walk up a hill," one person told the BBC. "No-one has really explained why it's here," said another.
In a statement released earlier, Westminster City Council Leader Rachael Robathan branded the rise in costs "totally unacceptable" and accepted her deputy's resignation "with regret".

image captionOrganisers hoped the mound would attract 200,000 people
The 25m mound, designed by Dutch architect company MVRDV, was intended to attract visitors back to the heart of London.
She said: "Doing nothing was never an option. So when the mound fully reopens in September, I hope that people will come and see it for themselves.
"The mound may delight or divide views and that's OK, but we're confident that in the end it will fulfil its original brief - to get people back into the West End and remind them of why this is a world class city."

Only London could come up with a plan to build a literal heap of junk as a tourist attraction and then fuck it up.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Marble Arch Mound: Deputy leader resigns amid spiralling costs

Westminster Council's Melvyn Caplan steps down after total costs nearly doubled to £6m.

www.bbc.co.uk

https://archive.md/wip/I1xbt

Only London could come up with a plan to build a literal heap of junk as a tourist attraction and then fuck it up.

Since I avoid everything London related like the plague I hadn't heard of this thing before the current shitshow. I've seen and heard of some dumb shit, but the idea that people are gonna pay money and go out of their way to climb a fucking hill in London is ridiculous. Even if the grass/plants weren't dead as fuck what would be the point? So you can get a better view of all the construction and godawful buildings that surround it?

 

[Florence]

You thinking of Portsmouth?

Nah, Plymouth’s got Devonport which is the other sizeable naval base in the UK.

 

[Sped Xing]

The UK has a navy?

 

[CWCissey]

The UK has a navy?

One of the best.

Seems he's an incel killer though. This should be fun!

 

[Coolio55]

One of the best.

Seems he's an incel killer though. This should be fun!

He looks like a youtuber.
I expect absolutely no verifiable information on his background other than some spiel about how he obtained his weapons legally.

 

[CWCissey]

He looks like a youtuber.
I expect absolutely no verifiable information on his background other than some spiel about how he obtained his weapons legally.

Got some pretty good info in the dedicated thread.

Yank (lol of course!)
Just started with Babcock International (a really good company to work for.)
Severe mental issues.

I know the Kiwi response is 'lol they're going to grab the guns even harder' but I don't see how that can happen. What's going to happen is a crackdown on Incels.

 

[Billy Beer]

Plymouth shooting: Gunman shot own mother then a dad and daughter

Jake Davison murdered his mother Maxine before shooting and killing a father and daughter.

www.bbc.co.uk

All the latest info on the plymouth shooter. He was an incel yank who shot his family, family friends, then some randomers and turned the gun on himself.

He was using a shot-gun, legally registered. Obviously our checks for handing out legal weapons has failed, i mean who in their fucking mind would allow a yank to have a gun? It's only going to end like this.

 

[soy_king]

One of the best.

Seems he's an incel killer though. This should be fun!

You know your navy is smaller than France's, right?

 

[CWCissey]

You know your navy is smaller than France's, right?

Not the size, it's what you do with it.

 

[soy_king]

Not the size, it's what you do with it.

I think they've got at least two nuclear powered aircraft carriers, just sayin'. Perfidious Albion must be shaking in its boots.

 

[CWCissey]

I think they've got at least two nuclear powered aircraft carriers, just sayin'. Perfidious Albion must be shaking in its boots.

Not really, because it's the French

The crew is either on strike or already surrendering.

 

[Weeb Slinger]

Marble Arch Mound: Deputy leader resigns amid spiralling costs

Westminster Council's Melvyn Caplan steps down after total costs nearly doubled to £6m.

www.bbc.co.uk

https://archive.md/wip/I1xbt

Only London could come up with a plan to build a literal heap of junk as a tourist attraction and then fuck it up.

I was up at the Tyburn end of Oxford Street in London, a few weeks ago. I didn't know about the mound, but I did happen to glance in the direction of Marble Arch where it is located. I wasn't wearing my glasses and so I assumed that I was looking at the scaffolding around a construction project that had been draped in green netting to keep the pigeons off.

Laying aside the myriad issues with the mound itself, the conflict between the intention of the project and its location would have convinced anyone with even a bare bones knowledge of London urban topography that it was a bad idea, doomed to failure. This is also the reason why I regard it, in part, as a scam.

The goal of the mound - to attract people back to one of London's shopping hubs, on and around Oxford Street - is fundamentally flawed. The area around Marble Arch is separated from the western end of Oxford Street by busy roads, that are best negotiated on foot by resorting to an insalubrious network of subways that stink of piss and disinfectant. Furthermore, to reach the mound by underground, one would have to travel to Marble Arch Tube, which emerges onto Oxford Street where all the shops are. You are already there. The mound has literally no association to the area it is intended to promote. It shares more of a connection with Hyde Park.

The councillors would have been better off, in my opinion, recreating one of two long-absent metropolitan landmarks: A popular choice would be The Skylon - an immense insectoid tripod structure that was built on the South Bank, near to Hungerford Bridge, for the 1951 Festival of Britain. It was taken down the following year but is still romanticised in music and literature. There have been multiple attempts to recreate it elsewhere in the city. It would probably cost around £1million to reconstruct; much cheaper than the mound.

A more controversial alternative would be the infamous triangular Tyburn Gallows, within spitting distance of its original site.

 

[Coolio55]

Considering the response to all other mass killings/rapes I assume we've all learned to use love and not hate and to stress that the incel community deserves respect and more legal protections.
We can't make a martyr here.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I was up at the Tyburn end of Oxford Street in London, a few weeks ago. I didn't know about the mound, but I did happen to glance in the direction of Marble Arch where it is located. I wasn't wearing my glasses and so I assumed that I was looking at the scaffolding around a construction project that had been draped in green netting to keep the pigeons off.

Laying aside the myriad issues with the mound itself, the conflict between the intention of the project and its location would have convinced anyone with even a bare bones knowledge of London urban topography that it was a bad idea, doomed to failure. This is also the reason why I regard it, in part, as a scam.

The goal of the mound - to attract people back to one of London's shopping hubs, on and around Oxford Street - is fundamentally flawed. The area around Marble Arch is separated from the western end of Oxford Street by busy roads, that are best negotiated on foot by resorting to an insalubrious network of subways that stink of piss and disinfectant. Furthermore, to reach the mound by underground, one would have to travel to Marble Arch Tube, which emerges onto Oxford Street where all the shops are. You are already there. The mound has literally no association to the area it is intended to promote. It shares more of a connection with Hyde Park.

The councillors would have been better off, in my opinion, recreating one of two long-absent metropolitan landmarks: A popular choice would be The Skylon - an immense insectoid tripod structure that was built on the South Bank, near to Hungerford Bridge, for the 1951 Festival of Britain. It was taken down the following year but is still romanticised in music and literature. There have been multiple attempts to recreate it elsewhere in the city. It would probably cost around £1million to reconstruct; much cheaper than the mound.

A more controversial alternative would be the infamous triangular Tyburn Gallows, within spitting distance of its original site.

Sounds like they would have been better off building some footbridges. Nice views over the construction sites and you can walk to the shops without getting shanked in a dark corner.

I think they've got at least two nuclear powered aircraft carriers, just sayin'. Perfidious Albion must be shaking in its boots.

They have one non-nuclear carrier. It's rather old, but it has a steam cat and it fields the unparalleled Rafale, which we should have bought instead of the Eurofighter. We should also have bought a raft of fat hornets instead of F35 and dumped the ramp launch on the Elizabeth class.

What the French lack is institutional knowledge of carrier operations, which the royal navy has still managed to retain. Sort of. The Elizabeth class is a shitshow though, utterly unsuited to the role it's being asked to perform. It's a classic example of fighting the last war - in the RN's terms, the Falklands, for which it would have been ideal as a launch platform for the Harrier. It is inadequate to the task of a modern fleet carrier. The R0-9 Ark Royal would be better. Hell, the old ww2-vintage Ark Royal would be better. At least she had a proper through-deck.

And don't get me started on the disposition of our fleet in general. We have six Type 45s, a dozen type 23s and an assortment of old tubs and patrol boats, and they spend most of their time berthed because their captains are fucking drunk or fucking each other. We sold most of our mine sweepers to a bunch of baltic states. The only assets in decent nick are the SSNs and SSBNs, because the last thing you want is a meltdown on the dockside, and some arctic research vessels, because boaty mcboatface needs a safe home.

 

[Eat to the beat]

Since I avoid everything London related like the plague I hadn't heard of this thing before the current shitshow. I've seen and heard of some dumb shit, but the idea that people are gonna pay money and go out of their way to climb a fucking hill in London is ridiculous. Even if the grass/plants weren't dead as fuck what would be the point? So you can get a better view of all the construction and godawful buildings that surround it?

They could have just bought a penthouse in one of the nearby buildings and funnelled people through to have a look through the windows. Even with a conplimentary glass of champagne it would have been cheaper and definitely better for tha Nviroment.