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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Snekposter]

Just buy some cheap shit that won't fall apart the minute you wear it, reuse, and do the bare minimum to show you wear it. As was said above, its all a theater performance and as long as your shit passes basic muster, only the true believers will hassle you.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Just buy some cheap shit that won't fall apart the minute you wear it, reuse, and do the bare minimum to show you wear it. As was said above, its all a theater performance and as long as your shit passes basic muster, only the true believers will hassle you.

The regulations only say "face coverings" so I've got some bandanas that I'm going to plonk over my fizzog like Zorro.

I thought about getting a plague doctor mask as well. Or maybe a Jason Voorhees.

 

[Bender]

The regulations only say "face coverings" so I've got some bandanas that I'm going to plonk over my fizzog like Zorro.

I thought about getting a plague doctor mask as well. Or maybe a Jason Voorhees.

Ditto with the plague doctor mask, I wanna look as suave as @Vitriol's avatar:

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

The wearing of face nappies is not to be mandated in offices.

But is in shops. Unless you're staff.

This all smacks of security theatre tbh.

I’ve already seen a few disposable masks littering around streets today. Nice to know people are just throwing them off when they’re out on the streets.

 

[Snekposter]

The regulations only say "face coverings" so I've got some bandanas that I'm going to plonk over my fizzog like Zorro.

I thought about getting a plague doctor mask as well. Or maybe a Jason Voorhees.

I hope you Brits just go "fuck it" and make your nation into one giant fancy dress event to protest this shit. Maybe even arrange something for Nov 5th if your leaders are all a bunch of idiots still.

 

[Bender]

I’ve already seen a few disposable masks littering around streets today. Nice to know people are just throwing them off when they’re out on the streets.

I'll probably just spray one of those with Dettol and use that then, tbh.

 

[CWCissey]

I thought about getting a plague doctor mask as well.

I should be getting mine soon. Was going to go for a Bane mask but you can't get them cheaply or in a timely manner it seems.

I hope you Brits just go "fuck it" and make your nation into one giant fancy dress event to protest this shit. Maybe even arrange something for Nov 5th if your leaders are all a bunch of idiots still.

Why do you think the V mask is a thing?

 

[Coccxys]

Shamima Begum can return to UK to fight for citizenship, Court of Appeal rules

Shamima Begum should be allowed to return to the UK to fight the decision to remove her British citizenship, the Court of Appeal has ruled.

Ms Begum, now 20, was one of three schoolgirls who left London to join the Islamic State group in Syria in 2015.

Her citizenship was revoked by the Home Office on security grounds after she was found in a refugee camp in 2019.

The Court of Appeal said she had been denied a fair hearing because she could not make her case from the Syrian camp.

The Home Office said the decision was "very disappointing" and it would "apply for permission to appeal".

The ruling means the government must now find a way to allow the 20-year-old, who is currently in Camp Roj in northern Syria, to appear in court in London despite repeatedly saying it would not assist removing her from Syria.

Lord Justice Flaux - sitting with Lady Justice King and Lord Justice Singh - said: "Fairness and justice must, on the facts of this case, outweigh the national security concerns, so that the leave to enter appeals should be allowed."

The judge also said that the national security concerns about her "could be addressed and managed if she returns to the United Kingdom".

Daniel Furner, Ms Begum's solicitor, said: "Ms Begum has never had a fair opportunity to give her side of the story.

"She is not afraid of facing British justice, she welcomes it. But the stripping of her citizenship without a chance to clear her name is not justice, it is the opposite."

Her father Ahmed Ali told the BBC he was "delighted" by the ruling, adding that he hoped his daughter would get "justice".

Former Home Secretary Sajid Javid made the decision to strip Ms Begum of her citizenship in February 2019.

Ms Begum's legal team challenged the move on three grounds - that it was unlawful because it left her stateless; it exposed her to a real risk of death or inhuman and degrading treatment; and she could not effectively challenge the decision while she was barred from returning to the UK.

Under international law, it is only legal to revoke someone's citizenship if an individual is entitled to citizenship of another country.

In February, a specialist tribunal - the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC) - ruled that the decision to remove Ms Begum's citizenship was lawful because she was "a citizen of Bangladesh by descent".

She is understood to have a claim to Bangladeshi nationality through her mother.

SIAC, a semi-secret court which hears national security cases, also said that although there were concerns about how Ms Begum could take part in the proceedings in London, those difficulties did not mean the home secretary's decision should be overturned.

In his ruling on Thursday, Lord Justice Flaux said: "It is difficult to conceive of any case where a court or tribunal has said we cannot hold a fair trial, but we are going to go on anyway."

Government 'shirked' responsibilities
Human rights organisation Liberty, which intervened in Ms Begum's appeal, welcomed the ruling, saying the right to a fair trial was "a fundamental part of our justice system and equal access to justice must apply to everyone".

Liberty lawyer Katie Lines added: "Banishing someone is the act of a government shirking its responsibilities and it is critical that cruel and irresponsible government decisions can be properly challenged and overturned."

Ms Begum left Bethnal Green, in east London, aged 15 for Syria in February 2015, with two school friends.

Within days she had crossed the Turkish border and eventually reached the IS headquarters at Raqqa, where she married a Dutch convert recruit. They had three children - all of whom have since died.

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Fucking courts again. She dug her hole, let her rot in it. She better be arrested on terrorism charges the second she touches UK soil. Not of this bull shit bring her back and let her abscond then shrug and go "well it'll cost too much to hunt her down".

Even if she attended the court and loses she'll just pull some bullshit asilum application or claim human rights because her family are here. Then come the free counsil house and a boat load of tax payer money for her cushy life.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Shamima Begum can return to UK to fight for citizenship, Court of Appeal rules



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Fucking courts again. She dug her hole, let her rot in it. She better be arrested on terrorism charges the second she touches UK soil. Not of this bull shit bring her back and let her abscond then shrug and go "well it'll cost too much to hint her down".

This would have been a perfect occasion to cry "but social distancing" and say that she can appear before the Courts and be represented via lawyers over Skype or Zoom from wherever she is at the present.

 

[Coccxys]

This would have been a perfect occasion to cry "but social distancing"

Rate me moti but I think it's perfect time to have a chat with our closest allies about delivering a MOAB to that camp. Guaranteed you'd kill more terrorists than civilians.

I'm all for the muh climate change lobby when it comes to oil because if we stop needing that shit we can leave the whole region to implode and show Africa what a real poverty and war stricken shit hole looks like.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

Shamima Begum can return to UK to fight for citizenship, Court of Appeal rules



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Fucking courts again. She dug her hole, let her rot in it. She better be arrested on terrorism charges the second she touches UK soil. Not of this bull shit bring her back and let her abscond then shrug and go "well it'll cost too much to hunt her down".

Even if she attended the court and loses she'll just pull some bullshit asilum application or claim human rights because her family are here. Then come the free counsil house and a boat load of tax payer money for her cushy life.

Just give some Kurdish, Yazidi or Shia refugees a bit of a wink-wink nudge-nudge regarding where she is and let them solve the problem themselves. Alternatively, give her to the Iraqi or Syrian government, as they'd probably be delighted to get their hands on a member of the group that terrorized their countries for years.

 

[Niggard]

It's ridiculous. If she is tried in the UK, there will barely be any evidence of what she's done, and no doubt she will get a couple of years at most and a new tax-payer funded life. Our legal system isn't fit for persecuting war criminals, and something needs to be done to ensure that she's never allowed on British soil.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Just give some Kurdish, Yazidi or Shia refugees a bit of a wink-wink nudge-nudge regarding where she is and let them solve the problem themselves. Alternatively, give her to the Iraqi or Syrian government, as they'd probably be delighted to get their hands on a member of the group that terrorized their countries for years.

I think the former might be the way forward. The latter gives her more scope to grandstand and shriek about human rights (not that she cared about the human rights of the locals in Raqqa or Mosul when she formed part of the ISIS religious police enforcing their barefoot-and-pregnant sumptuary laws.)

 

[CWCissey]

Shamima Begum should get a new identity.

I suggest Jon Venables...

 

[Coccxys]

Just give some Kurdish, Yazidi or Shia refugees a bit of a wink-wink nudge-nudge regarding where she is and let them solve the problem themselves

Just give a heads up to our "allies" in the region so they can "keep an eye on her". I'm sure Mossad could be persuaded to sort the issue without it even being anything besides "intelligence sharing".

 

[CWCissey]

Just give a heads up to our "allies" in the region so they can "keep an eye on her". I'm sure Mossad could be persuaded to sort the issue without it even being anything besides "intelligence sharing".

Or you know, there could be a horrific plane crash that was a mechanical failure and couldn't have been stopped while she was on her way to the country...

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Or you know, there could be a horrific plane crash that was a mechanical failure and couldn't have been stopped while she was on her way to the country...

"Everyone off, we're going down!"

*everyone jumps*

"Oh shit, I accidentally gave Shamima my packed lunch instead of a parachute and now she's a pink mist across several miles of western Turkey. Oh well. Can't be helped."

 

[AnOminous]

This would have been a perfect occasion to cry "but social distancing" and say that she can appear before the Courts and be represented via lawyers over Skype or Zoom from wherever she is at the present.

They should let her plead her case, from a video link to her cell, and then allow her to come back to serve a life sentence.

Or you know, there could be a horrific plane crash that was a mechanical failure and couldn't have been stopped while she was on her way to the country...

Was getting caught part of your plan?

 

[CWCissey]

Was getting caught part of your plan?

Nobody cared who I was until I put on the surgical mask.

 

[emuemuemu]

In America, we made our melanated bed with the lure of free labor, and must lie in it.

Why does Britain even *have* black trannies?

And yet you let them stay after the job was done, and decided to let even more in afterwards. Your biggest mistake was letting in the Pakistanis: you would have probably assimilated the rest eventually, but Islam is incapable of assimilation unless its beaten into submission.

A lot of britain's "diversity" is just a consequence of dismantling a global empire which is no longer financially viable after WW2 and doing the "decent" thing of offering former colonists opportunities to come to the UK when their native rulers inevitably turned out to be worse (contrary to popular belief, empires are not 100% oppression and exploitation).

This was also the early days of globalism, before people realised that it's generally the worst people from the worst countries who are most keen to immigrate and they generally don't know how to do anything except shit up their new country as well. Before someone shouts muh racism, it's not really about race. Imagine scraping the bottom layer of british white society (chavs, footie hooigans, those blokes who spend weekday afternoons in the pub reading the daily mail), give them all a one way ticket to an advanced nation with a radically different language and culture like Japan or South Korea. What do you actually expect them to do except chase girls and get into trouble?

There's an extra twist with Pakis. The reason there are so many is down to the left wing labour party forcing mass immigration in the 60s/70s just to get new voters. Exactly what US Democrats have been trying to do with Mexicans.