UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Slimy Time · Jul 7, 2020

Bender said:
Who in the press would risk their job by trying to get that story posted?

That story would never get put out for that reason. Unless there is an official investigation like Rotherham, journalists will not touch it. This is an issue that will never be solved because politicians will not do what's required to address the issue. Not Tories, not Labour, not any of them. None of them will risk their careers and party over this.

Smleman303 · Jul 7, 2020

Ponderous Pillock said:
All because he got drunk in Strangers and lamped someone.

It always starts in the boozer does the best stories

Ponderous Pillock · Jul 7, 2020

Smleman303 said:
It always starts in the boozer does the best stories

Normally doesn't end with "I got caught fucking kids" tho does it?

Overly Serious · Jul 7, 2020

Bender said:
I got mugged once, punched in the face twice and had my phone stolen, the cops pretty much just asked for my IMEI so they could get it deactivated and pretty much said "we won't be able to find them".

Meanwhile...

Some dude posts a video of a pug, the ugliest fucking pet on earth, doing Nazi salutes and he gets raided within a week.
Some Reddit user calls someone a "Toxteth monkey", not even knowing the race of the person in question, and gets raided within a week.
Some lass posts lyrics from her favourite rapper on Instagram and gets raided within a week.
Some dude posts something on Twitter and gets a visit from cops who told him off within a week.

I'm starting to get pissed off at the state of our police force. Instead of going after easy crimes what about going after the cunts who actually harm people?

I'll add one from a couple of years ago that's stayed with me:

If I were in charge of this country the first thing I'd do would be to invite a big panel of rank and file officers and under guaranteed anonymity get them to list out all the things that stopped them just dealing with crimes.

soy_king · Jul 7, 2020

Overly Serious said:
I'll add one from a couple of years ago that's stayed with me:

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If I were in charge of this country the first thing I'd do would be to invite a big panel of rank and file officers and under guaranteed anonymity get them to list out all the things that stopped them just dealing with crimes.

Dude legit looks like David Mitchell's character in the World Series of Snooker.

"Oh and that's a cracking shot!"

Coccxys · Jul 7, 2020

Ginger Piglet said:
Shoulda leaked it to the press.

I did try and... This:

Bender said:
Who in the press would risk their job by trying to get that story posted?

Slimy Time said:
That story would never get put out for that reason.

The daily mail told me they thought those sorts of stories were doing more harm than good.
The sun told me those stories are "getting old".
The Guardian told me they didn't want to give more fuel to the far right.
Every other publication I tried including local and national ones never even responded.

Ponderous Pillock · Jul 7, 2020

Coccxys said:
I did try and... This:
The daily mail told me they thought those sorts of stories were doing more harm than good.
The sun told me those stories are "getting old".
The Guardian told me they didn't want to give more fuel to the far right.
Every other publication I tried including local and national ones never even responded.

Try the Express again, they'd like a good screamer of a story with no justice done.

Smleman303 · Jul 7, 2020

Ponderous Pillock said:
Normally doesn't end with "I got caught fucking kids" tho does it?

Normally no, for Joyce this is kinda deserved. I get some weird vibes. Saw the names of his family and one of his kids matched a person who went missing in Feb. His I'm assuming now ex wife as he looked to be bunking with India knight was a headmistress in Tonbridge and the kid was from there.... Given the age of the kids mentioned I'm wondering if one was her?....

Coccxys · Jul 8, 2020

Bianca Williams: Met apologises to sprinter over stop-and-search

Team GB sprinter Bianca Williams has received an apology from the Met Police after she and her partner were pulled over in their car in a stop-and-search.

Ms Williams's three-month-old son was also in the car on Saturday when it was stopped in Maida Vale.

Met Commissioner Dame Cressida Dick told a committee of MPs officers had visited Ms Williams to apologise for "distress" caused by the stop.

The force has also launched a review of its handcuffing practices, she added.

Footage of the stop-and-search has been shared widely on social media.

Ms Williams believes officers racially profiled her and her partner Ricardo dos Santos, a Portuguese international 400m runner, because they are black and were driving a Mercedes.

They say police handcuffed them while their son was in the car.

Despite two reviews by the force's directorate of professional standards, Dame Cressida said the force had found no misconduct by its officers.

However, because of the public interest in the case, the Met has referred itself to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC).

Earlier, Dame Cressida told the Home Affairs Select Committee: "We apologised yesterday to Ms Williams and I apologise again for the distress this stop clearly caused her.

"I think all of us watching could empathise with somebody who is stopped in a vehicle, who has a young child in the back, who does not probably know what exactly is going on, and is subsequently found, together with her partner, not to be carrying anything illicit."

Dame Cressida said she has asked a senior officer to review the Met's handcuffing practices to make sure it hasn't become a "default", and has set up an "oversight group" looking at the use of force.

"Every time we see a video that is of concern we review them, we see if there are any lessons to be learned," she told MPs.

Ch Supt Karen Findlay, who is in charge of the Territorial Support Group which conducted the stop, and local area commander Helen Harper, also informed Ms Williams about the IOPC referral and the next steps in the process.

But Assistant Commissioner Helen Ball told the committee that there had been "good grounds" for the car to be stopped and at that point the officers involved did not know who was in it.

Nothing was found in the search, which the Met said was carried out by officers patrolling the Maida Vale area in response to an increase in violence involving weapons.

The force also said the vehicle was seen driving suspiciously, including on the wrong side of the road, and that the driver sped off when asked to stop.

But this account was rejected by Ms Williams, who has said she is considering legal action against the Met.

"I feel very hurt by their actions, and to witness my partner being taken away and for me to be taken away from my son, my heart hurts," she said this week.

Source

And they cucked. Cressida Dick is an utter embarrassment to police officers everywhere. They throw the officers under the bus of public opinion with this bullshit, despite 2 investigations saying they did nothing wrong, then wonder why recruiting and retaining officers is such a massive uphill battle (they try to keep it quiet but try and find an officer with more than 5 years experience in a response or tactical group, it isn't easy).

Absolutely nothing else had to be said about these events except a dispassionate "a car was stopped as it was seen driving erratically, the officer handcuffed the occupants as they were uncooperative. The DPS has reviewed the incident and finds the officers did not err on their handing of this incident." Done. Why does the fucking commissioner need to come out and undermine everything her own officers and DPS did? Does the police's moral need even more undermining? Because I can tell you it's not far from a full collapse at this point. Get fucked you worthless bint.

Noodlesnoodlesnoodles · Jul 8, 2020

So she's going hard on the narrative that police officers have nothing better to do than engage in a potentially risky situation just because they see black people.

"Is it cuz I iz black", professional athlete addition.

Fareal · Jul 8, 2020

Coccxys said:
Extremely similar to my experience that finally had be leave. We had (and I'll bet good money still have) a good olde "grooming gang" that kept getting written up as isolated incidents when people got caught. Was always the same guys in the same area of two neighbouring towns who all worked for the same company (gets the noggin jogging). They kept getting "community orders" that basically said if you get caught with drunk/drugged undergrad girls again you'll be arrested", which they always were and then given the same order again. The girls involved always gave statements that what they were doing was consensual and even though they were usually 12-15. This was somehow used as a reason not to do anyone for rape/sexual assault even though consent at that age is impossible, and we keep churning out posters about drunk means no consent.

I went to great lengths to gather evidence to link it all together as one group that were sourcing and grooming these girls, were taking them to a certain place, plying them with alcohol and drugs then fucking them. I got video of the lot from a guy who's house overlooked one of the locations and was always reporting it. My "superiors" wouldn't even review the video because the guy who had taken it had been done for racist public order in the past so was "just out to harm the community for racist motives". I appealed it as high as I could, then resigned when no one would listen because no way am I turning a blind eye to that shit.

Part of the reason that our multi agency child protection is so instiutionally shit is exactly this: people who try, in each of the relevant agencies, to actually fucking protect children are stymied at every hand’s turn.

And they are effectively eased out of the system because the choice becomes stark and inescapable: shut your mouth and go along with continuing outrages, or walk away because what you are being told to do is completely unacceptable to your morality and ethics.

The CP system relies on its staff to turn more blind eyes than Stevie Wonder. It relies on an ability to detach psychologically from the consequences of one’s inaction, which is that real identifiable kids are harmed in extremely fucking real and identifiable ways.

There was a case that finished my entire fucking team, every one of us who worked it. Three took early retirement; I went to do a completely different area of law because I could not accept that the decisions of my multiagency colleagues had collectively allowed a twelve week old child who had been raped to within minutes of death (God bless the surgeons who spent six hours barely saving his life) by his father to return to that father‘s unsupervised care.

I would love to be making that up. I would love to never have handled the evidence photographs, because some things you can’t unsee. I would love never to have taken the statements, or held the baby and see what a permanent ileostomy on a months old infant looks like.

But too many people couldn’t be bothered, and before that kid was 18 months old, he was living with the guy who had literally split him in half. That kid will never walk properly from the musculoskeletal damage, and he will shit in a bag forever.

And we could not keep him safe. And he has brothers and sisters, and his father strolls about the community like butter wouldn’t melt.

I remember my then-boss - one of the retirees - telling me “You either burn out at this, or you learn not to give a fuck, and you are not the sort of person who will ever be able to stop giving a fuck. You need to leave here, because this will never change, and it will break you.”

It happens in police, social work, related agencies, over and over. The people who are motivated to protect the kids are eased out like a thorn out of flesh and the totally uncaring stay. And keep building the culture of not giving a fuck.

I don’t know how you change that. I don’t know how you stop the one who cares the least ending up in charge. You look at every major child death review since Maria Colwell, every one, and it’s the same shit over and over. Everyone knew and no one bothered to do anything. Kids are dying of abuse and neglect in plain sight of the authorities in this country, and it is not stopping, and I don’t know how you make that stop. You cannot do it as a grassroots individual. A few good folk can link up, but they can’t hold back the tide of fucking human misery that is allowed to flow over thousands, hundreds of thousands, of kids in this country.

Coccxys · Jul 8, 2020

A good officer I knew worked categorising CP for court, a hard job that obviously they struggle to get anyone to volunteer for. He sifted through close to 1000 images and videos as evidence against one scum bag making them. The CPS ended up dropping that case because reasons. The officer ended up doing himself in.

What did we get from the higher ups? A load of "it's a tough demanding job and we all need to get better at mental health". Like yes it's tough, you know what's tougher? Putting yourself through that shit for it to make no difference at all.

Ginger Piglet · Jul 8, 2020

Coccxys said:
Bianca Williams: Met apologises to sprinter over stop-and-search

Source

And they cucked. Cressida Dick is an utter embarrassment to police officers everywhere. They throw the officers under the bus of public opinion with this bullshit, despite 2 investigations saying they did nothing wrong, then wonder why recruiting and retaining officers is such a massive uphill battle (they try to keep it quiet but try and find an officer with more than 5 years experience in a response or tactical group, it isn't easy).

Absolutely nothing else had to be said about these events except a dispassionate "a car was stopped as it was seen driving erratically, the officer handcuffed the occupants as they were uncooperative. The DPS has reviewed the incident and finds the officers did not err on their handing of this incident." Done. Why does the fucking commissioner need to come out and undermine everything her own officers and DPS did? Does the police's moral need even more undermining? Because I can tell you it's not far from a full collapse at this point. Get fucked you worthless bint.

Is it just me, or has Cressida Dick's entire career been a farrago of failing upwards and being diversity-hired because she's a muff-diver.

Did a number of years in the 1980s as a PC, then decided to better herself by ticking the right box in the aftermath of the Stephen Lawrence report. Graduate of Common Purpose, thus gaining access to the corridors of leftist institutional power, then rejoins the Met as head of diversity. Comes to public attention in 2005 where she's the ACC in charge of the fatal shooting of an unarmed Brazilian electrician which it was in her remit to stop the moment it became known that the intelligence relied upon was dodgy right up until the TFU on the ground shot him. Promoted. Lots of dodgy revolving-door secondments to civil service. Then lo and behold, she's the Commissioner. Even though she's not had anything to do with actual front-line policing since the late 1980s, but she's got lots of service piloting a desk, writing meaningless reports, generating paperwork, and corporate / organisational infighting. It says a lot about her that her instinct following the London Bridge attack was to point to how wonderfully diverse the victims were. I suspect the last time she actually nicked someone was back in the Thatcher years.

Ugh.

Also, it doesn't hurt that her old man was a senior Oxford don.

Fareal said:
There was a case that finished my entire fucking team, every one of us who worked it. Three took early retirement; I went to do a completely different area of law because I could not accept that the decisions of my multiagency colleagues had collectively allowed a twelve week old child who had been raped to within minutes of death (God bless the surgeons who spent six hours barely saving his life) by his father to return to that father‘s unsupervised care.

I would love to be making that up. I would love to never have handled the evidence photographs, because some things you can’t unsee. I would love never to have taken the statements, or held the baby and see what a permanent ileostomy on a months old infant looks like.

But too many people couldn’t be bothered, and before that kid was 18 months old, he was living with the guy who had literally split him in half. That kid will never walk properly from the musculoskeletal damage, and he will shit in a bag forever.

And they keep saying the same tired old pabulum whenever this happens. "Lessons must be learned." But nobody actually carries the can for these failures.

Let's take a look at the Victoria Climbié mess for a few lines. Victoria Climbié was the daughter of the Ivorian immigrant Marie Therese Kouao, and first came to the attention of the authorities when a hospital doctor noticed some injuries that weren't consistent with the accounts given of how she sustained them. Like how she looked like she stepped out of a charity advert. Yet despite this, nothing happened because in the words of one social worker, she assumed that it was acceptable culturally given how Caribbean parents discipline their children, even though, I. that's racist in and of itself, and II. Climbié was West African.

Next thing we know, the following happens. Courtesy of Wikipedia, emphasis mine:

From October 1999 to January 2000, Manning forced Climbié to sleep in a bin liner in the bathtub in her own excrement. During a later police interview, Manning said this was because of her frequent bedwetting. At Haringey social services on 1 November 1999, Kouao told social workers that Manning sexually assaulted Climbié, but withdrew the accusation the following day. In one of Arthurworrey's visits, during a conversation about housing, Arthurworrey said that the council accommodated only children who were believed to be at serious risk. Laming said in his report, "it may be no coincidence that within three days of this conversation, Kouao contacted Ms. Arthurworrey to make allegations which, if true, would have placed Victoria squarely within that category".[48] Jones sent a letter to Kouao, which was ignored, and no further action was taken.[45] Manning later denied the allegation. Alan Hodges, the police sergeant overseeing the investigation, claimed in the inquiry that the social workers were obstructing the police in dealing with child protection cases.[3] Between December 1999 and January 2000, Arthurworrey made three visits to the flat, but she received no answer. She speculated to her supervisor, Carole Baptiste, that they had returned to France. Despite no evidence, her supervisor wrote on Climbié's file that they had left the area. On 18 February 2000 they wrote to Kouao saying that if they did not receive any contact from them, they would close the case. A week later, on 25 February 2000, they closed the case—on the same day that Climbié died.

On 24 February 2000, Victoria Climbié was taken semi-conscious and suffering from hypothermia, multiple organ failure and malnutrition, to the local Universal Church of the Kingdom of God. With the advice of the pastor, a mini-cab was called to send Climbié to the hospital. The mini cab driver was horrified at Climbié's condition and sent her to the nearby Tottenham Ambulance Station instead. Climbié was rushed straight to the accident-and-emergency department at North Middlesex Hospital; she was then transferred to the intensive-care unit at St Mary's Hospital. The ambulance crew who drove her to St Mary's described how although Kouao had kept saying, "my baby, my baby", her concern seemed "not quite enough", and that Manning seemed "almost as if he was not there".[52] Climbié died the following day at 3:15 pm local time. The pathologist who examined her body noted 128 separate injuries and scars on her body, and described it as the worst case of child abuse she had ever seen;[45] Climbié had been burnt with cigarettes, tied up for periods of longer than 24 hours, and hit with bike chains, hammers and wires. During her life in Britain, Climbié was known to four local authorities (four social services departments and three housing departments), two child protection police teams, two hospitals, an NSPCC centre, and a few local churches. She was buried in Grand-Bassam near her home town.

That's a lot of people who basically saw her battered, abused body, and went, "nah, it'll be fine." They didn't even stop and think, hold on, bedwetting in a child that old, that's indicative of something. They were too terrified of accusations of racism and cultural imperialism, too willing to bend the knee to community cohesion, and as a result Victoria Climbie died utterly horribly.

But, yeah. Where did we hear about this as a factor in not taking action? That's right, grooming gangs. The pusillanimity of the powers that be in the face of the race relations industry and so-called "community leaders" (who are usually some loudmouthed randos who've declared themselves Grand Poobah) is staggering.

AnOminous · Jul 8, 2020

Coccxys said:
A good officer I knew worked categorising CP for court, a hard job that obviously they struggle to get anyone to volunteer for. He sifted through close to 1000 images and videos as evidence against one scum bag making them. The CPS ended up dropping that case because reasons. The officer ended up doing himself in.

What did we get from the higher ups? A load of "it's a tough demanding job and we all need to get better at mental health". Like yes it's tough, you know what's tougher? Putting yourself through that shit for it to make no difference at all.

Too bad none of them have just gone Dexter.

Slimy Time · Jul 8, 2020

Ginger Piglet said:
Is it just me, or has Cressida Dick's entire career been a farrago of failing upwards and being diversity-hired because she's a muff-diver.

Did a number of years in the 1980s as a PC, then decided to better herself by ticking the right box in the aftermath of the Stephen Lawrence report. Graduate of Common Purpose, thus gaining access to the corridors of leftist institutional power, then rejoins the Met as head of diversity. Comes to public attention in 2005 where she's the ACC in charge of the fatal shooting of an unarmed Brazilian electrician which it was in her remit to stop the moment it became known that the intelligence relied upon was dodgy right up until the TFU on the ground shot him. Promoted. Lots of dodgy revolving-door secondments to civil service. Then lo and behold, she's the Commissioner. Even though she's not had anything to do with actual front-line policing since the late 1980s, but she's got lots of service piloting a desk, writing meaningless reports, generating paperwork, and corporate / organisational infighting. It says a lot about her that her instinct following the London Bridge attack was to point to how wonderfully diverse the victims were. I suspect the last time she actually nicked someone was back in the Thatcher years.

Ugh.

Also, it doesn't hurt that her old man was a senior Oxford don.

And they keep saying the same tired old pabulum whenever this happens. "Lessons must be learned." But nobody actually carries the can for these failures.

Let's take a look at the Victoria Climbié mess for a few lines. Victoria Climbié was the daughter of the Ivorian immigrant Marie Therese Kouao, and first came to the attention of the authorities when a hospital doctor noticed some injuries that weren't consistent with the accounts given of how she sustained them. Like how she looked like she stepped out of a charity advert. Yet despite this, nothing happened because in the words of one social worker, she assumed that it was acceptable culturally given how Caribbean parents discipline their children, even though, I. that's racist in and of itself, and II. Climbié was West African.

Next thing we know, the following happens. Courtesy of Wikipedia, emphasis mine:

That's a lot of people who basically saw her battered, abused body, and went, "nah, it'll be fine." They didn't even stop and think, hold on, bedwetting in a child that old, that's indicative of something. They were too terrified of accusations of racism and cultural imperialism, too willing to bend the knee to community cohesion, and as a result Victoria Climbie died utterly horribly.

But, yeah. Where did we hear about this as a factor in not taking action? That's right, grooming gangs. The pusillanimity of the powers that be in the face of the race relations industry and so-called "community leaders" (who are usually some loudmouthed randos who've declared themselves Grand Poobah) is staggering.

I'm amazed Dick has a career after the shots she called with Jean Charles de Menezes. Absolute fuck up, incompetent on every level, and she goes upwards. I met her in an event, not impressed, talked about diversity and women in the police force.

Fareal · Jul 8, 2020

AnOminous said:
Too bad none of them have just gone Dexter.

There was a day when social work point blank refused to accommodate a child who had in the course of legal proceedings that afternoon, made extensive credible disclosures of all types of abuse on top of a neglect case that would have shocked Hans Christian Andersen, and pleaded not to be sent home to the house where her mother allowed her to be sexually abused for money and burnt her with cigarettes if she cried. This child was seven and covered with cigarette burns, including on her face, and the worst black eye I’ve ever seen.

There are things that make you want to go full Death Wish inside. This child was the youngest of a family who had been live child protection cases to Social Work for a consistent twenty three years. Twenty three fucking years this woman - you can’t call that a mother - had done this to one kid after another. And the decision had always been that since she had no intention of reforming, removing them meant permanent foster and that was too expensive, so they were just... left there.

I blew some sort of internal fuse and stated that in that case, since I had the relevant police checks already done and up to date, and therefore passed the requirement for emergency foster acceptance, I would take this child home myself since I was now in the possession of an order authorising her removal. But first, since she disclosed she had not eaten in three days, I was taking her to McDonalds.

By the time we returned from McDs, lo and behold a foster place had been found and the head of social work at the council had formally complained to my boss about me. Who had shrugged, laughed and said “She is a bit of a maverick, yes.” It is maverick conduct to refuse to send a seven year old to be raped for money. There is a point where you cannot go along with what is expected of you and look yourself in the mirror.

I need you to know that at least two of my colleagues pulled the same stunt in the same circumstances to force SW to actually do their fucking job. The public have no idea how bad it is out there.

Coccxys · Jul 15, 2020

Blackburn with Darwen is facing a "rising tide" of coronavirus cases centred on terraced houses with high numbers of occupants, the area's public health director has said.

The Lancashire town brought in extra restrictions on Tuesday following a spike in infections.

Prof Dominic Harrison said the majority of new cases were in the south Asian community.

He said a phased lockdown could happen if the rise was not halted by 27 July.

For the next month, the 148,000 people who live within the Lancashire authority have been told to observe the new rules in a bid to avoid a Leicester-style local lockdown.

However, Blackburn with Darwen's public health director Prof Harrison said they would "reverse the measures one by one not a full lockdown like Leicester".

The new measures include tighter limits on visitors from another household, and officials have called on people to bump elbows in place of handshakes and hugs.

Residents are being told to wear cloth face coverings in all enclosed public spaces, including workplaces, libraries, museums, health centres and hair and beauty salons.

"We have we had 114 cases in the last two weeks and 97 are south Asian which is why we want to minimise household contact," Prof Harrison said.

"What we are seeing from looking at the postcode data in the last two weeks is a single house being infected and and the whole household becoming infected creating household clusters in part of the town."

He said it was causing "rising tide events that they are mainly in south Asian areas and areas with a high number of terraced houses and occupied by four or more five people".

Faz Patel MBE, who is a local adviser on community cohesion in Blackburn, said he was worried young people were ignoring advice on social distancing.

"What is happening since the easing of lockdown, we are seeing a lot of young Asian men and other young people spending time with their friends and going to their homes where they might spread the virus to their parents or grandparents," he said.

"We have to get the message out we can't go into another lockdown that would have a detrimental effect on our local area.

"It is going to be difficult, people started going to see their families last week but we have to stick to the new measures. People have got to understand no hugs or handshakes even though it is part of our culture."

Councillor Saima Afzal said it would be a "disaster" for businesses if Blackburn went back into lockdown.

"We know there is an issue, so somewhere people aren't following the rules," she said.

"We are trying everything to get the message out there, on different channels and in different languages as we can't rely on one form of communication."

Although new cases of coronavirus are falling across England, the daily data shows Blackburn with Darwen is not alone in seeing a high rate of cases.

Pendle in Lancashire is currently second in terms of new cases with the equivalent of 76.6 per 100,000 population, based on the week to 11 July, although this is significantly behind Leicester, which has had a local lockdown imposed.

More than half of Pendle's new cases for that week were confirmed over two days and numbers have fallen again since to about six or seven a day.

Blackburn with Darwen Borough Council has also announced changes to Darwen Street in Blackburn to allow more social distancing and make people feel safer in the town centre.

From Thursday, footways will be widened and some parking bays removed to help separate people queuing for takeaways and pubs.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the council was doing "a fantastic job".

"We've gone in and are supporting them, working with them, for instance put in much more testing. And then they've taken these steps locally and I applaud that," he said.

"This is exactly the sort of local action we want to see."

Meanwhile, public health bosses in East Lancashire have issued an "early warning" for the nearby area of Pendle which has also seen a recent spike in cases.

Lancashire County Council said it had no plans to issue stricter lockdown restrictions because Pendle did not have the same perceived risk of the virus spreading within communities as in Blackburn.

Dr Sakthi Karunanithi, director of public health for Lancashire, said: "With the slight increase in the Covid-19 infection rate in Pendle, it's really important to stay alert to the risks."

At least they acknowledge the issue being in the South Asian community, guess the pattern recognition it racist was only going to last so long.

Ginger Piglet · Jul 15, 2020

The wearing of face nappies is not to be mandated in offices.

But is in shops. Unless you're staff.

This all smacks of security theatre tbh.

Bender · Jul 15, 2020

Ginger Piglet said:
The wearing of face nappies is not to be mandated in offices.

But is in shops. Unless you're staff.

This all smacks of security theatre tbh.

So how is this gonna work? Are shops gonna give out free masks or am I banned from all shops until I spend money on single-use masks?

Niggard · Jul 15, 2020

Bender said:
So how is this gonna work? Are shops gonna give out free masks or am I banned from all shops until I spend money on single-use masks?

The latter, which is why they gave you 10 days' notice to procure one

UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Slimy Time

Christmas slime for the Christmas period

Smleman303

Ponderous Pillock

Welcome to Triple T, Tards, Troons and Trolls!

Overly Serious

soy_king

Academics, please respond!

Coccxys

Ponderous Pillock

Welcome to Triple T, Tards, Troons and Trolls!

Smleman303

Coccxys

Noodlesnoodlesnoodles

Fareal

will definitely consider what you have said

Coccxys

Ginger Piglet

Burglar of Jess Phillips MP

AnOminous

Any road will take you there.

Slimy Time

Christmas slime for the Christmas period

Fareal

will definitely consider what you have said

Coccxys

Ginger Piglet

Burglar of Jess Phillips MP

Bender

I am not a threat. I'm an idiot.

Niggard

A mean or ungenerous person; a miser.