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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I think any adult refugee should loose their refugee status immediately if you are found guilty of serious violence, any form of organized crime or are rebeat offender something more serious than occasional small speeding tickets. I don’t think it’s too much to ask a refugee not bring crime or violence to a country they moving in for their safety. Sure more mistake types of nonviolent crimes like parking tickets or forgetting return a book to library shouldn’t be counted too harshly against a refugee but if they are clearly negative influence to society they got to go. I think people are forgetting that giving somebody refuge is a big gift and is actually ment be temporary just till active danger is gone. A country shouldn’t have to continue giving a gift to clear criminals that making local areas into danger zones.
 
I will be back on board when I see realistic change. I can cite examples in the opposite. We've gotten jack shit from our president on immigration, despite over delivery on the boomer zionist stuff. These massive corporations shrug off state authority and control information flow anyway. Nobody gave a shit about censorship until it was in their backyard.
He’s never taken the heat off immigration. He shut down the federal government for over a month for border money. That he has now. The attempt at plastering him over “kids in cages” has turned into “why isn’t the DNC helping to fix the crisis” yeah I’d sure like every illegal out of here fucking yesterday but it’s not the POTUS who’s the issue here. What’s more, if you can remember back to 2015, immigration was not something you were supposed to talk about. Anything but silent acceptance of the status quo of the law being flagrantly violated was racist. The DNC was getting its voter displacement without struggle. Now they are forced to go onstage and say “vote for me so I can spend your tax money on illegals!” And no one is buying it.
You’re right about the censorship shit though. NIMBY triumphs again.
 
We've gotten jack shit from our president on immigration, despite over delivery on the boomer zionist stuff.
Have you even been paying attention to anything as of late?

An as an aside, can we, as a society, stop A-Logging "da baybee bewmerz" already? It's getting old and tiresome.

And while we're on that subject, what is so wrong with Zionism?
 
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Have you even been paying attention to anything as of late?

An as an aside, can we, as a society, stop A-Logging "da baybee bewmerz" already? It's getting old and tiresome.

On while we're on that subject, what is so wrong with Zionism?
Yeah, the republicans larp as crypto white nationalists prior to an important election. Same stuff as always. As for zionism, I don't think that is pertinent, but I have a wide variety of critiques of zionism. If you'd like to discuss them, you could always message me, but I don't think derailing a thread is useful.

He’s never taken the heat off immigration. He shut down the federal government for over a month for border money. That he has now. The attempt at plastering him over “kids in cages” has turned into “why isn’t the DNC helping to fix the crisis” yeah I’d sure like every illegal out of here fucking yesterday but it’s not the POTUS who’s the issue here. What’s more, if you can remember back to 2015, immigration was not something you were supposed to talk about. Anything but silent acceptance of the status quo of the law being flagrantly violated was racist. The DNC was getting its voter displacement without struggle. Now they are forced to go onstage and say “vote for me so I can spend your tax money on illegals!” And no one is buying it.
You’re right about the censorship shit though. NIMBY triumphs again.
In terms of rhetoric he has done plenty, but I will remind you he caved on the border after a month. He has allowed his supporters to be harrased, lives ruined, et al. We have gotten plenty of rhetoric, and some action, but nothing like what he promised. I lost a lot of social capital and friends trying to get people to vote for him, and all I got was an edgy ideology and paranoia about being doxxed. Many such cases! Sad!
 
Have you even been paying attention to anything as of late?

An as an aside, can we, as a society, stop A-Logging "da baybee bewmerz" already? It's getting old and tiresome.

On while we're on that subject, what is so wrong with Zionism?
My only problem with Zionism is that the zionists want American goys to pay for it .If Israel wants to be a county they should do it themselves instead of kicking sand into Syria and crying to America that they’re being oppressed. That they got a big shovel of American cash to make another border wall and the media here makes a stink about us having one is annoying.
In fact we should specifically say we’re using Israel’s policy on immigration and national defense and is anyone objects they’re anti Semitic
 
My only problem with Zionism is that the zionists want American goys to pay for it .If Israel wants to be a county they should do it themselves instead of kicking sand into Syria and crying to America that they’re being oppressed. That they got a big shovel of American cash to make another border wall and the media here makes a stink about us having one is annoying.
In fact we should specifically say we’re using Israel’s policy on immigration and national defense and is anyone objects they’re anti Semitic
I would agree except I sympathize with the Palestinian cause in certain cases, the Syrian Social Nationalist Party and Baathism generally. Of course 3/4 of my politics is pure autistic larping so whatever.
 
Yeah, the republicans larp as crypto white nationalists prior to an important election. Same stuff as always.
"Crypto white nationalists"? What?

As for zionism, I don't think that is pertinent, but I have a wide variety of critiques of zionism. If you'd like to discuss them, you could always message me, but I don't think derailing a thread is useful.
Okay then.
 
I would agree except I sympathize with the Palestinian cause in certain cases, the Syrian Social Nationalist Party and Baathism generally. Of course 3/4 of my politics is pure autistic larping so whatever.
Fair enough. My stance is purely “sort your own shit out yourselves and don’t involve me” type John Birch shit. I’m of the opinion that every real country gets to act like an adult and take responsibility for its own concerns and America needs to cut the world police nonsense.
 
And while we're on that subject, what is so wrong with Zionism?

What is so wrong with white identarian advocacy?

Any position in favor of the former and against the latter is identitarian by definition. It would also be a non-universalist position.
 
London seems to be a real shithole.

It is. I went there for a seminar a couple weeks back. It is rapidly turning into a cyberpunk dystopia. On the one hand you have the gleaming skyscrapers of the City and the Docklands and the manors of Knightsbridge and Mayfair where the ultra-wealthy masters of the universe cut deals. None of these people are ever going to be the victims of violent crime because they have private security and panic buttons and so forth. The hotel where this seminar was was in Mayfair and outside there were four colour co-ordinated sports cars and a Range Rover with adjacent personal number plates (i.e. GP 001, GP 002, etc.) But between there and the train home afterwards was a literal slum. I swear, the wealth gap in London is huge and growing every year because unless you are fantastically rich or on a tugboat, you can't afford to live in the city itself. That, and everyone wanders round with their noses stuck in their phones or talking to nobody on the hands free.

I hate the place.
 
What is so wrong with white identarian advocacy?

Any position in favor of the former and against the latter is identitarian by definition. It would also be a non-universalist position.
I didn't say that there necessarily wasn't anything wrong with white identitarianism, but now that you bring it up, there is a clear difference between Zionism and white identitarianism. Zionism, in practice, has allowed for a significant Arab minority in Israel (along with a virtually intractable regional conflict), while the closest analogue for white identitarianism being put in practice (i.e. Nazism), caused a genocide.

And now to stop derailing the thread.
 
"Crypto white nationalists"? What?
Basicly when you put crypto in front of something, it means that's what you're secretly are.

For example when the Portuguese tried to convert slaves to christianity from their own religions, for example from candomblé, a number of them became crypto candomblé practitioners, where they tied each of their own gods to a catholic saint, so if they were praying to mary, they were really praying to yemanya, when they were praying to josef, they were really praying to ogum, things like that.

When he said that republicans larp as crypto white nationalists, he meant that he thought republicans will pretend to secretly be white nationalists to gain votes from white nationalists without having any genuine allegiance towards that group.
 
Basicly when you put crypto in front of something, it means that's what you're secretly are.

For example when the Portuguese tried to convert slaves to christianity from their own religions, for example from candomblé, a number of them became crypto candomblé practitioners, where they tied each of their own gods to a catholic saint, so if they were praying to mary, they were really praying to yemanya, when they were praying to josef, they were really praying to ogum, things like that.

When he said that republicans larp as crypto white nationalists, he meant that he thought republicans will pretend to secretly be white nationalists to gain votes from white nationalists without having any genuine allegiance towards that group.
I'm not questioning the term "crypto". I question the notion that Republicans intend to larp as white nationalists.

Like so...
In summary they do a lot of signalling for implicitly pro white policies like immigration restriction and the like and bitching about affirmative action and then just doing rino shit in office. That is my view at least.
Success among certain demographics in America aren't a zero-sum game. It's possible to enact policies that benefit both whites an minorities.
 
Success among certain demographics in America aren't a zero-sum game. It's possible to enact policies that benefit both whites an minorities.
I'm not saying you can't my point is that the GOP has a base that is significantly further to the right of them in practice than they'd like.
 
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