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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Marissa Moira]

The law says nothing about headbutting your kids.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

"ALL HITTING IS ABUSE! JUST EXPLAIN TO A FOUR YEAR OLD THE COMPLEXITIES OF INTERPERSONAL SKILLS! 'THAT'S NOT NICE' WORKED FOR ME! "

Get over yourselves. Half of you are incel NEETs or helicoptered to shit and the rest are women.

- Firmly yet carefully grasp the upper arm,don't yank ffs
-One or two firm swats on the ass.
-Keep your mouth shut, this is prime importance.
-Give them space to sulk and soak it in.
-When they're calm, get down to their eye level on one knee and explain that We Don't Do That and I Love You.
-Carry on, cucks.

@Aristophanes no. An accident can be cleaned up and that's fine. My boy was 18 months and in all innocent play picked up a ten pound weight over his head (freak strength dunno) and was about to toss it on the cat. I plucked it out of his hands, applied the above method and we were smiling and laughing and petting Polly within two minutes.

And yes, that was the last time he so much as swatted the cat but he didn't avoid her either; just gentle kitty love.

 

[EasyPeasy]

Whats stops us English going to Wales is the constant sight of Taffy Bastards balls deep shagging sheep when you pass a farmers field.

Sick fucks they are.

 

[Judge Holden]

> Trying to stop englishmen from putting their hands on children

lol good luck with that sheepfuckers

 

[TowinKarz]

I understood darn well why I was getting spanked... because my Mom told me why as she did it, and you can bet I never did that thing again.

And I turned out normal in the end, in my experience, spanking works.

I've seen a lot of parents fruitlessly telling little Johnny to stop throwing the magazines around the doctor's office because it isn't polite 50 times to no effect when my Mom would have given one warning and then it was a trip to Whap City.

But that's going to derail this thread going on like this.

Here's something relevant, the assault statute in my home state has a specific "This does not apply to reasonable corporal punishment" in it specifically to protect parents who spank their children from the moral outrage of those who choose not to.

And I was on Jury Selection where a person tried that very defense. Must not have worked very well, as they plead out before trial, but I would have convicted. Disciplining your kid all the way to the ER (which is what happened, they beat them about the head so hard it left a litany of injuries) is not "reasonable". It's not like the "discipline" exception means it consequence-free open season on your kid.

So it's not outside the realm of possibility something like that could work in English Law, well, could HAVE before it went full exceptional these last few years.

 

[Oh Long Johnson]

After witnessing millennials, I'm on board with parents sicc'ing pitbulls on their children.

 

[Belligerent Monk]

If you can't discipline a child without hitting them maybe a holiday to Scotland or Wales isn't for you.



That's definitely true. It's far more effective to take the child aside and explain to them what they did wrong, and what can be done about it as opposed to hitting them. Also, it's a slippery slope of when hitting a child becomes "acceptable". Do these parents believe it is acceptable to hit a child because they accidentally spilt a glass of water?

Or, depending on the severity, you do both.

 

[A Welsh Cake]

Whats stops us English going to Wales is the constant sight of Taffy Bastards balls deep shagging sheep when you pass a farmers field.

Sick fucks they are.

Fuck you. If sheeps weren't meant to be loved, then why did god make them all so cute and adorable? and such saucy little minxes, if any sheep are browsing this thread hmu.

 

[EasyPeasy]

Fuck you. If sheeps weren't meant to be loved, then why did god make them all so cute and adorable? and such saucy little minxes, if any sheep are browsing this thread hmu.

 

[Hux]

make them sit in a room with nothing to do for a hour

Why, and give them a chance to plan more evil shit to do?

 

[MemeGray]

-When they're calm, get down to their eye level on one knee and explain that We Don't Do That and I Love You.

Not gonna lie this bits kinda gay

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Muh human rights! How can I possibly control someone less than half my size without belting them?!

No sympathy for people who want to hit their kids. Or go to Rhyl on holiday...

Edited to add, before I’m slated for slagging off Rhyl... I am very fond of Wales and lived there for the best part of a decade, but still maintain that Palins in Rhyl is a hellhole.

Sometimes a spanking or some other type of physical punishment is the one way to get through to a kid.

I know some people take it too far and really hurt their kids, but that shit should be handled on a case-by-case basis.

 

[Slimy Time]

Option should be there...The absolute last option, but it should be there. Something is seriously wrong or the kid must be in serious danger if in 2019, you need to resort to physical.

Oh no, my kid is misbehaving, what should I do?.. Take the phone/electronic device away? Gate them so they can't go out and see friends? Stand them facing a wall? There are many options. As far as I see it, if the kid is about to do something incredibly dangerous, and you need to very quickly let them know not to do it like stick a knife in a wall socket, a smack will get them to knock that shit off, followed by an explanation.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

Exactly. The majority of parents who have hit their kid have done it in a one off moment of exasperation.

I don't think most people decide to hit a child when they're a little pissed off at them acting like a child

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

I don't think most people decide to hit a child when they're a little pissed off at them acting like a child

Hopefully a person is able to take a step back and calm themselves before they enact any form of discipline. Or do anything at all in life. If somebody hauls off and punches their kid in a fit of rage, charge their ass. In Canada I believe the rule is no foreign objects and keep it below the neck. Might even specify that it's open-handed not sure.

Most public displays of angry lashing-out at a child that I've seen were performed by women. Maybe because men feel like there'd be less tolerance, maybe because we're less emotional (in general for the pants poopers ITT) but that's my anecdotal experience of things.

 

[Cosmos]

Seven-mile 'bee corridor' coming to London to boost dwindling numbers

A seven-mile “bee corridor” of vibrant wildflowers is being planted to encourage the insect’s population in London. The pathway for bees will be formed of 22 meadows sown through parks and green spaces in the north west of the capital. These will be in place in time for summer according to Brent...

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A seven-mile “bee corridor” of vibrant wildflowers is being planted to encourage the insect’s population in London.

The pathway for bees will be formed of 22 meadows sown through parks and green spaces in the north west of the capital.

These will be in place in time for summer according to Brent council, which says it hopes the move will halt the decline in biodiversity in the borough.

A recent study showed a massive decline in pollinating insect numbers in the UK since the 1980s, with the decline of wildflowers attributed as one factor behind this.



The corridor will be seven miles long (Brent Council)


The flowers will not only benefit bees but can also support other insects as well as species such as butterflies, dragonflies and moths.

Councillor Krupa Sheth, who is Brent Council’s lead member for environment, said: "Bees and other insects are so important for pollinating the crops that provide the food that we eat. We must do all we can to help them to thrive.”

While Kelly Eaton, public Realm Policy, said: “We wanted to do our bit to boost biodiversity.

"The Parks team curated the mix of wildflowers with bees and other insects in mind, choosing varieties that would attract these pollinators."



Krupa Sheth sowing seeds for the corridor, which is being prepared for summer (Brent Council)


Worldwide bee numbers have been on the decline in recent years and scientists blame a range of factors.

These include insecticides called neonicotinoids, parasites, disease, climate change and lack of a diverse food supply.

Bees are critical pollinators and food making up about a third of the human diet is from plants that are pollinated by insects.

Finally some good news. More flowers and more bees. I really hope this works.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

It won't work. The bees were killed by a parasite not by lack of flowers. You're just gonna have to wait for the Varroa resistant strains to slowly bring the population back up. Also a seven mile stretch of planted wild flowers is probably not a significant addition to what's already in the immediate area. Plenty of things we consider weeds are perfectly good pollen sources for bees.

Tons of pesticide use doesn't help but I don't know how much mass agriculture the UK gets up to.

Also just want to point out the Italian honey bee is not native to the UK anyway so if anything it vanishing is a return to a "natural" status quo.

EDIT: To be productive instead of just complaining, if you really want to help pollination, become a bee keeper. It's pretty cheap and low maintenance as a hobby. Get some Minnesota Hygienic or Russian strain bees. Let them swarm from time to time. They'll spread Varroa resistant genes into the population. Or depending on where you live, much more likely, become the root of the new population because there are no wild ones.

 

[Arctic]

"Isn't there anyone who can help?"

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Only posting this here because when would I ever find another thread this could possibly belong?

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Also I just realized they're planting flowers in existing green spaces anyway. So there's nothing new here. At best a very slight increase of pollen density that will be gone by next year.

This is just a way to make people think they're doing something at the city's expense.