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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

UK has an at least decades-long history of changing laws based on only one incident. One kid dies from nunchuks - they're banned from sale and all media, and the Ninja Turtles have to become Hero Turtles, and no films with a scene involving nunchuks can be shown. Video nasties from the 80s, a huge MDMA scare after one girl died taking a pill and then drinking too much water... they love making rules based on one-off horror stories more than when hundreds of people have been affected. The long-term effects of the phone hacking scandal, Rotherham or even Yewtree have been less than the panic inspired by a singular victim of a singular incident.

Makes me wonder how many of them are working the British tabloids in their off time.

 

[Fish-Eyed Fool]

Of course it’s the UK. You can count on them to legislate crazy about as well as you can count on Florida Man to do something crazy. It’s like a country-wide version of that kind of exceptionalism, sans the fun.

 

[knux]

"if they fail to tackle "online harms" such as terrorist propaganda and child abuse"

Fail to tackle child abuse? What like the govt did for decades because they didn't want to appear racist?
More useless virtue signalling so they give the impression they're doing something.

 

[Spicy Hog]

I wonder how long this will last. I can only imagine websites just straight up blocking UK connections so they don't have to deal with their stupid fines. Would be nice if most social media just straight up denied access to UK users but I also don't see that happening.

 

[not william stenchever]

The long-term effects of the phone hacking scandal, Rotherham or even Yewtree have been less than the panic inspired by a singular victim of a singular incident

Jesus they really took Joseph Stalin's alleged quote to heart. "One death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic."

 

[MG 620]

Could this be the end of the hate site run by Samuel Collingwood Smith? I'm not linking to it, it's vile.

 

[Death Grip]

I'm convinced that the water in the House of Commons circulates through lead pipes. The UK has possibly the dumbest political culture in the developed world.

Judging by this article it's a lot worse than just the pipes.

The Houses of Parliament are falling down

The Palace of Westminster is built on a marsh, literally and metaphorically. A 2012 study warned of “major, irreversible damage” to the buildings without “significant conservation work” costing billions of pounds. But essential works have stalled. Nothing will happen – or possibly even be...

www.newstatesman.com

 

[thismanlies]

So... how do they plan to do this exactly? They do know most websites are not based out of the UK, right?

I'm just waiting for the eventual cease and desist letter they send Null.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Go right ahead. The U.S. specifically passed a law (the SPEECH Act) that denies libel charges pressed in jurisdictions that don't recognize free speech; wouldn't take much for us to amend it against foreign government meddling as well.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I'm convinced that the water in the House of Commons circulates through lead pipes. The UK has possibly the dumbest political culture in the developed world.

If it's not lead pipes, I guess it might be some hormones who had been thrown in the water in the House of Commons who melted their brains.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I'm just waiting for the eventual cease and desist letter they send Null.

Will they contact Vordy before they attempt this?

 

[BroccoliBrain]

I wonder how long this will last. I can only imagine websites just straight up blocking UK connections so they don't have to deal with their stupid fines. Would be nice if most social media just straight up denied access to UK users but I also don't see that happening.

If the UK ever lost access to social media maybe it would do some good for the population...

 

[PantsFreeZone]

Fuck Britain. I'm glad we threw your tea in the ocean and told your King to suck our dicks.

Thanks for creating a new subset of young people that will use their genius to create an alternet but we really should have let the Nazis kill you off.

Enjoy becoming the authoritarian center of the New Caliphate, normie Britfags.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

If the UK ever lost access to social media maybe it would do some good for the population...

Social media was a mistake, yes, but this won't stop the population getting their fill of brainless fucking YouTubers and Instacrap stars. Or from wigging out on twatter at everything.

I suspect that if this comes in, and Jeremy Corbyn becomes PM, and his rapist-faced mate John McDonnell becomes Treasurer, they'll use this control over the internets to mandate clampdowns on "hate media" as being anything that doesn't further the objectives of the Party. Because they already restrict access to press outlets they don't like or object to. This really is the thin end of the wedge.

Also, the NSPCC are involved which makes it suspect to begin with. Daily reminder that the NSPCC are a shower of con artists who spend most of their donations on slick advertising campaigns and fat salaries for executives.

 

[Poiseon]

"The days of online self regulation are over,"
Fucking England. It's not even funny anymore. These dumb faggots are letting themselves get fucked, and no one's doing anything. This shithole country boggles my mind. It's like they're competing with the EU on who can fuck theitr people more. It's just sad. They are so cucked they'll need actual seatbelts on toilets just so people don't fall in. Fuck.

 

[cecograph]

Fuck Britain. I'm glad we threw your tea in the ocean and told your King to suck our dicks.

Thanks for creating a new subset of young people that will use their genius to create an alternet but we really should have let the Nazis kill you off.

Enjoy becoming the authoritarian center of the New Caliphate, normie Britfags.

Ah fuck you too, you yank wanker.

Before you US pussies get too high and mighty, remember that pretty much every nation has obscenity laws of some sort, has a history of banning books because there's a lewd picture on the cover, and your own states are no exception. You've also had to contend with state-level proposals to censor internet pornography.

Broadcast media has always been censored, and the internet has always been a massive gaping hole in that censorship, so it was obvious that our governments would want to crack down on it. That's why groups like the EFF first established themselves in the early 90s, to ensure that we could route around the censors and stay hidden from them using cryptography.

Cos yeah, cryptography: until 1992, your stupid ass government was sufficiently retarded to have put it on the munitions list and regulated its use, not appreciating the fact that it's just high-school number theory. And they'll try to regulate it again, and if they succeed, we really are fucked.

I can't honestly say I care much about this latest bit of pants wetting from the British government. If they want to prevent Brits from using Facebook, go right ahead. Massive advertising platforms disguised as social media is not the internet people were excited about two decades ago, and I hope they all die off. If governments make these sites unusable, it might just encourage people to renetwork around decentralised protocols and peer-to-peer technologies, and that will be awesome, because good luck trying to censor those.

Even Josh here had to rely on torrents to distribute the NZ live-ammo DOOM larp, and as much as I think kiwifarms is cool, I'd rather we find a way for all of kiwifarms to exist in such a decentralised fashion.

 

[KeyserBroze]

Fuck Britain. I'm glad we threw your tea in the ocean and told your King to suck our dicks.

Thanks for creating a new subset of young people that will use their genius to create an alternet but we really should have let the Nazis kill you off.

Enjoy becoming the authoritarian center of the New Caliphate, normie Britfags.

I suppose every country is notorious for something

 

[TungstenCarbide]

I wonder if with "harm" they also mean "topics and ideas that could trigger vulnerable people or minorities". If the text of this law is ambiguous enough, certain lobbies could just report and censor whatever they deem dangerous or inconvenient. Worrying, especially with the anti-scientific sentiment that is spreading everywhere. Saying that lately I find UK decisions perplexing would be an euphemism.

 

[not william stenchever]

Enjoy becoming the authoritarian center of the New Caliphate, normie Britfags.

At this rate they'll be lucky if the nascent Caliphate drapes itself in British Nationalist tropes.

"Britanniastan, Britanniastan rule the waves (inshallah)"

Ah fuck you too, you yank wanker.

Don't hate us, hate your government. It finds its citizens contemptible when compliant, and dangerous when they vote out of line. Us Yankee wankers will have our day come soon enough. It's like all we're on the same sinking boat, but you Brits are being steam broiled in the boiler rooms and us Yanks are playing cello on the deck.

 

[Right To Bear Blarms]

How do I give the entire parliament an rating?