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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Good. This is a perfectly sensible system, and should be the way things are done everywhere.

Fork Cartel said:
Anything going against people’s will is a nope nope nope from me
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This has nothing to do with that. You can opt out, unlike a weed dealer on death row in China with a rare blood type.

Apoth42 said:
You don't have to be a dictatorship either.

Israel's program targeted black Jews and Palestinians.
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Where on Earth is your evidence for that?
 
What I hope for the most is one day stem cell technology will be advanced enough that people can get their own tissues transplanted into their body, but we're a long ways away from that.

That being said, this is good, I know the long wait times in the NHS are kind of a meme but the organ shortage problem is very real not just in the UK. There are a lot of people in favor of donation who just don't opt in, anyway.
 
Not sure how it is in the UK (well, I know how it will be, with this law) but in most of the US this is updated at the same time as your driver's license unless you specifically change your mind. Its hard for me to conceive of people potentially supporting organ donation but somehow forgetting to check the box or not.
 
I really don't know why, but this doesn't sit right with me.
I know, people who direly need a replacement organ will be saved by this in the future, but something about mandatory organ donations that you need to opt out is just so weird to me.
I don't buy into ridiculous "And now they will kill off people preemptively just to harvest their organs" broohaha either. I just really dislike this approach. They might as well encourage people to donate their organs or make it more easy to be recognized as a donor, but outright turning it into something that people have to opt out?

I just wonder how many politicians that support this bill will opt out.
 
Nah, this is just over the line of really creepy, collectivist shit. And inevitably it will serve as the thin edge of the wedge for something worse. Like all collectivist policies.

This undeniably changes the incentives surrounding patient death. That's not going to lead to good outcomes.
 
As far as I can tell this will only affect people who didn't give a shit in the first place? Here in Burgerland it would be just a simple box you check yes/no when you renew your driver's license, would this be significantly different in England?. Seems like just a good thing since if you didn't give enough of a damn to opt out, then you really have no room to bitch about it.
 
There's an underlying theme in this and a lot of recent legislation that ignores the notion of making room for the choice of the individual. This theme is a bit of a benchmark for me - If I think about a law or a protocol and the corresponding involuntary mental image involves cattle being led down an increasingly narrow hallway?
Count me out.

This law, for all the good it does, operates on the assumption of negating personal choice in these matters as a default. It's a major choice that is going to be made by the state automatically.
Slopes, slippery ones.
 
Yeah, it's a tough situation. I support organ donation, and having it be opt out rather than opt in definitely means that some healthy, viable organs that otherwise wouldn't have been donated will be...but the potential for abuse does give me pause. On the whole, I think I'm still for it, but it would probably require tighter checks and balances.
 
First they cracked down on dissent with arrests merely for speech then they immasculated their populace churning out these soyboys out of college. And now, because of these, they've got their organ farm.

Just a bunch of sissies too beta to speak out of turn while the affluent and influential are counting on you to die. And there's bound to be a secret sub plot where some of those folk pay to accelerate that process.
Whats it like to live in Black Mirror?
 
Shit like this makes me glad to be an American. I donate because I choose to, not because the government tells me to. This also seems like it'll be abused by the wealthy and connected.
 
I'm not an organ doner.

I don't know who my fucking organs are going into, and frankly I don't care.

My body's sins will die with me, I'm not gonna hot potato them into some little girl with cancer so she can be cursed with the liver of a NEET.
 
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