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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

Stake Knife;
Tout furry porn

 

[ulsterscotsman]

Stake Knife;
Tout furry porn

That cunt has a lot of blood on his hands, a tout put in charge of killing touts with a licence to kill from the British government . God knows how many innocent volunteers he sent to their graves.

 

[Fareal]

I read this thread earlier, came back to it now and finally realised why I was absent mindedly whistling The Boys of The Old Brigade all day.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

Edit: power levelled a bit.

 

[La Luz Extinguido]

But I thought the IRA was only in our heads.

 

[Cosmos]

Opt-out organ donation: Max and Keira's Bill passed into law

From 2020, adults in England will be considered potential donors unless they choose to opt out or are excluded.

www.gov.uk

A new system for organ donation that will save hundreds of lives has come into law, with the Organ Donation (Deemed Consent) Bill receiving Royal Assent on 15 March. Royal Assent means the bill is now an act of parliament.
The Organ Donation Act will mean adults in England will be considered potential donors unless they chose to opt out or are excluded. The act is known as Max and Keira’s law in honour of a boy who received a heart transplant and the girl who donated it.
There are more than 6,000 people currently waiting for an organ in the UK. Three people die each day while on the waiting list. The new law will help to reduce the number of people waiting for a life-saving transplant.
Changes to the way consent is granted will take effect in 2020. Before this happens, the government will launch a public awareness campaign to make sure people understand the new system and the choices they have.
Those excluded from the plans include:

• children under 18
• people who lack the mental capacity to understand the changes for a significant period before their death
• people who have not lived in England for at least 12 months before their death

There will also be strict safeguards in place and specialist nurses will always discuss donation with families so an individual’s wishes are respected.
80% of people in England support organ donation but only 38% have opted in. This means families are often left with a difficult decision when a loved one dies.
Currently, less than half of families give consent for their loved one’s organs to be donated if they are unaware of their wishes. When families know what their loved one would have wanted, they are much more likely to honour these wishes.
The government’s public awareness campaign will help raise awareness of the new system before it comes into force in spring 2020, and give people the time to have the conversations they need.
Those who do not wish to donate their organs will still be able to record their decision on the NHS Organ Donation Register. They will be able to do this through NHS Blood and Transplant’s website or helpline.
The government will also consult on whether certain organs should be excluded from the opt-out system.
The Prime Minister thanked campaigners for their support in getting the law passed.
Prime Minister Theresa May said:

I’m delighted Max and Keira’s law has passed today. It marks a momentous step for thousands of people in need of a life-saving transplant, and could save as many as 700 lives a year.
With significantly more people willing to consider organ donation than are actually registered as donors, this vital step will presume consent unless people choose to opt out of being a donor.
It’s important that everyone takes the time to discuss their choices on donation with their families and register their wishes, whatever their preference may be.
I also want to thank those who have campaigned tirelessly to raise awareness of this issue, and pay particular tribute to Max, Keira and their families for making this historic change happen.

Jackie Doyle-Price, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Mental Health and Inequalities, said:

This is a remarkable change that will make a real difference to so many lives and it has been a privilege to have supported the efforts of so many brilliant campaigners to pass Max and Keira’s law. The new system will mean hundreds more lives are saved every year.
Organ donation is a deeply personal decision for everyone, which is why we will be launching a public awareness campaign to ensure people understand the new system and the choices available to them.
Under the new law, being an organ donor will still be your choice – organ donation will remain a priceless gift.

I think more countries should do this. A lot of people don’t opt in for organ donation out of sheer laziness and this fixes that. As long as people still have the option to opt out then there’s no problem.

 

[Slap47]

Dunno, on one hand you're getting more organs.

On the other hand, the government is incentivized to kill poor people to so that the middle class and rich can have a supply of organs...

Israel and China had organ harvesting programs and all these amounted to was exploitation of vulnerable and targeted groups.

 

[Frogasm]

this is a good system and I wish more places would do this
people who are against donating their organs are pretty few and they can always opt out and get medical alert bracelets/tattoos/whatever

 

[MediocreMilt]

Jokes on you! With the amount of strain I've put my organs through in life you'd be better off without them!

 

[Fork Cartel]

Anything going against people’s will is a nope nope nope from me

 

[January Cyst]

I get an Orwellian vibe from this,
You can be sure that anyone who opts out will end up on some sort of list.

 

[Slap47]

this is a good system and I wish more places would do this
people who are against donating their organs are pretty few and they can always opt out and get medical alert bracelets/tattoos/whatever

Dunno, having to wait in 24 hours of lines just to be excluded from the harvest seems annoying. This is the UK afterall.

 

[Belligerent Monk]

Israel and China had organ harvesting programs and all these amounted to was exploitation of vulnerable and targeted groups.

For more info on that, re: Falun Gong

 

[vertexwindi]

My country did this too last year, although I already registered as an organ donor before they did. It honestly wasn't that hard to do, took me like 10 minutes max.

 

[Recoil]

Systems like this will ALWAYS be abused by the powerful classes. ALWAYS.

EDIT - I should add that use of 'powerful' is arguably incorrect here. Setting "donate" to default creates a climate in which the death of the average joe in hospital is not seen as the absolute endgame to be avoided at all costs. There is very high and unspoken value in all those organs that only becomes relevant to staff and docs right at the moment of death.

The wealthy.... they don't deal with hospitals and doctors the same way you or I do. I'm having trouble putting this into words but I assure you, Im not full of shit.

 

[Slap47]

For more info on that, re: Falun Gong

You don't have to be a dictatorship either.

Israel's program targeted black Jews and Palestinians.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Wait until they extend this to kids, too. They'll be putting toddlers on an "end-of-life path" over a cold.

...more than they do already, I mean.

 

[Lackadaisy]

I like this. I would make it as easy as possible to opt out of organ donation, even something as simple as an online form. It's an unfortunate truth, but I'd say that everyone will or has had the need for a donated organ for themselves or a family member, and the wait times are tremendous at least here in the US.

 

[ObsoleteMediaFormat]

What I really would like is to be able to put conditions on who can get my organs after I die, wouldn't those that have abused their bodies from obesity, drugs and alcohol to get, nor violent criminals, and pedos, and not crazy fuckers like commies, troons, furfags or Islamic fundamentalists

 

[Recoil]

What I really would like is to be able to put conditions on who can get my organs after I die, wouldn't those that have abused their bodies from obesity, drugs and alcohol to get, nor violent criminals, and pedos, and not crazy fucker like commies, troons, furfags or Islamic fundamentalists

You can't do that without crossing the intersectional streams